I do not follow your complaint.  What would you like to see?

Posted by reinsel on 7/7/2010 10:37:00 PM (view original):
I do not follow your complaint.  What would you like to see?

obviously he wants to coach at a better school (:

The problem is you cannot move easily to other DI schools unless it is a step down, ie there is no such thing as a lateral move.  And as such, programs in the A prestige range, such as Nebraska in IBA (which I have no desire to coach at) that have been built up, will always fall until it is a poor school again, thanks to your friend, SIM AI.     

But why should we care about that?  Why should one of the goals of the hiring process be to protect programs that have been built up from decaying?  Shouldn't the focus be on the coaches, i.e. the customers, not the fake basketball programs?

I think the issue isn't the BCS schools, its the mid-majors.  When a coach builds up a mid-major and then leaves for a big school the school they left has too high of a prestige for most coaches to get, and those that could move to that school wouldn't because it is a lateral move at best.

Again, why is that a problem?  (Genuine question)

It depends on the situation.  In some cases its not  big deal, in others it can be.  If you are in a relativley full mid or low major conference, and one or two of the coaches has built their team up to B level or higher team then they got to a BCS school it can be a huge issue.  Now these teams are "uncoachable" until they drop back down in prestige, so you are stuck with 2 crappy teams in your conference.  Now you can stick it out and struggle every year or look for a new school as well.  Take a look at the Metro in Naismith.  That conference used to be 85% full and would put 3-4 teams in the NT.  Myself, lost and kendrick, as well as many others had that league up to 6 or 7 in RPI a few years.  I left for VT, lost went to UCLA and now kendrick has left.  The conference only has 4 coaches left.  All are very good coaches but the other teams in he league are too weak for them to be successful. 

Is this a problem?  Well it is if you are in one of those situations.  But otherwise, its not a big deal.

OK, I understand where you are coming from.

The other bad thing for some is you grow attached to the team and hate to see them stink up the joint.

I still don't understand why it is not easier to get a DI job. The team should want a coach who has at least seen any amount of success over a SimAI coach who is just gona burn da school. burn it down to da gwounnnnnnnd.

Posted by car_crazy_v2 on 7/8/2010 10:27:00 AM (view original):
I still don't understand why it is not easier to get a DI job. The team should want a coach who has at least seen any amount of success over a SimAI coach who is just gona burn da school. burn it down to da gwounnnnnnnd.

in all fairness I've seen some humans burn it to the ground, but i think cburton nailed it.... making teams too unattainable to have continued success     

Posted by bscoresby on 7/7/2010 11:08:00 PM (view original):
The problem is you cannot move easily to other DI schools unless it is a step down, ie there is no such thing as a lateral move.  And as such, programs in the A prestige range, such as Nebraska in IBA (which I have no desire to coach at) that have been built up, will always fall until it is a poor school again, thanks to your friend, SIM AI.     

This I don't see as a problem in the slightest. That's just getting caught up in Simmy's designation of lateral, step backwards, etc. If you want to move to a school even though it's techinically listed as a step backwards, then do it.

The other point about low and mid schools having high prestige and always falling to a sim is a very legitimate one though. They almost always fall into complete sim decay. For these schools, perhaps you could make the qualifications be some combination of their current and baseline prestiges, and/or make the necessary qualifications drop as the job period moves along.

I think it's basically a non-issue for the BCS schools -- most get jumped on soon after vacated, and all get jumped on eventually, even if it's after a season or two. They're not that hard to build back up. I think it would be a bad idea to artificially lower qualifications for BCS schools. Getting a job there should really mean something.

There are plenty of D1 coaches that are just about equivalent to SimAI already, thank you very much. I hate to sound like the old man around here but having people with relatively little experience running around D1, especially during recruiting, would be a disaster.

Side note: Since when was the BCS involved in basketball? I think major,  mid major and low major is acceptable.  BCS has nothing to do with basketball.