Recruiting Question Topic

I was doing some research of some of the better teams in DIII and was wondering how these teams have players from a lot of different states within the same classes(The distance from the school was also unusual being more than 1000 miles ).  I find it hard to recruit a bunch of states and states across the country in DIII with the amount of money you receive.  How are these schools recruiting and signing such a wide variety of recruits with a DIII budget?
10/6/2011 4:15 PM
They could possibly by JUCO's or transfers.
10/6/2011 5:56 PM
Also, redshirting.  just because they are both freshmen, doesn't mean they are from the same year.


10/6/2011 6:14 PM
I understand what you are saying, but it seams like teams have a class of 5 with all of them from a different state and some of the states are over 1000 miles away.  If the coach is scouting each of these states, how does he afford these players.  These players also seem to have above average to high potential in a lot of categories as well.
10/6/2011 6:19 PM
Were they recruited while a SimAI was in control?
10/6/2011 6:31 PM
Nope, an experienced human coach.
10/6/2011 6:32 PM
Every now and then, I have taken a flier on a player from a state that I have NOT spent FSS on when I think they could be useful as is, and hope they will improve.  As far as five from different states. . when I've been in the northeast, I buy five states all the time.  YOu get the percent discount. . .

Also, if its a long term elite, experienced and successful coach from an elite conference. . . they can end up with a TON of NT money.    Add in carryover money, if you have any.  Say you are in a conference that has five teams go to the NT, and they play. . fifteen games in the NT between them.  That is close to $1,900 per team.  Add in caryover, get a bargain or two on a recruit close to you really cheap. . .

and you would be surprised how much money you can have left over.

ANd then add in that if you purchase FSS after signings start, it can be much cheaper.

10/6/2011 6:59 PM
Also, look at the states.  If the 5 guys are from California, Texas, New York, Ohio and Pennsylvania, then something could be off.  But if the states are New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Delaware, Nebraska and Montana, there is probably nothing unusual because all those states are generally cheap.
10/6/2011 7:09 PM
The states in the northeast are rather cheap and you are staying within 500 miles so I see how that is possible, but when someone is from the east coast and recruited guys in CA, AR,TX,CO, and FL (in same class) something does not seem right.  For a DIII team to afford TX and CA and be on the east coast and still have enough money to land nice recruits just amazes me.  It is hard enough to do that in D1. 

I am in a conference who is routinely in the top 3 rpi with at least 5 teams making the tournament and advancing throughout the tournament so I am aware of the extra cash.  It just does not seem like enough cash.
10/6/2011 7:15 PM
They can wait until after signings begin, and then the cost of those states is based on the UNSIGNED recruit population of the states, which becomes markedly   cheaper as recruits come off the boards.  I know of one person who doesn't even START recruiting - or presumably even FSS'ing - until the last 24 hours.  If you keep your powder dry and spend once the recruit population starts dropping, the states are cheaper. . and there are still nice recruits from the dropdowns occurring.


10/6/2011 7:20 PM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 10/6/2011 7:20:00 PM (view original):
They can wait until after signings begin, and then the cost of those states is based on the UNSIGNED recruit population of the states, which becomes markedly   cheaper as recruits come off the boards.  I know of one person who doesn't even START recruiting - or presumably even FSS'ing - until the last 24 hours.  If you keep your powder dry and spend once the recruit population starts dropping, the states are cheaper. . and there are still nice recruits from the dropdowns occurring.


I just don't have the patience for this strategy, but as a further benefit, by waiting, you'll find a majority of teams/coaches have already spent there money and won't be looking to poach your guys, so you can sign them on the cheap. It only takes $1100 for a high prestige school to sign anyone at their Divisional level from anywhere in the country if you know how...

ETA: $1100 without a start or minutes that is. Maybe it can be done cheaper, but I've yet to learn it...

10/6/2011 8:39 PM (edited)
Posted by dacj501 on 10/6/2011 8:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by a_in_the_b on 10/6/2011 7:20:00 PM (view original):
They can wait until after signings begin, and then the cost of those states is based on the UNSIGNED recruit population of the states, which becomes markedly   cheaper as recruits come off the boards.  I know of one person who doesn't even START recruiting - or presumably even FSS'ing - until the last 24 hours.  If you keep your powder dry and spend once the recruit population starts dropping, the states are cheaper. . and there are still nice recruits from the dropdowns occurring.


I just don't have the patience for this strategy, but as a further benefit, by waiting, you'll find a majority of teams/coaches have already spent there money and won't be looking to poach your guys, so you can sign them on the cheap. It only takes $1100 for a high prestige school to sign anyone at their Divisional level from anywhere in the country if you know how...
Same with me - I don't have the patience to even try this lol.
10/6/2011 8:32 PM
I feel like some coaches have a DI team in the same world as a DIII school (different username), thus being able to recruit (Future Stars) with their D1 team and saving valuable money for their DIII team. 
10/6/2011 8:42 PM
Posted by blhorick on 10/6/2011 8:42:00 PM (view original):
I feel like some coaches have a DI team in the same world as a DIII school (different username), thus being able to recruit (Future Stars) with their D1 team and saving valuable money for their DIII team. 
It is possible, although WIS will take action if it is proven and does have red flags (supposedly) that are raised if something weird happens.
10/6/2011 8:45 PM
Posted by zhawks on 10/6/2011 8:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dacj501 on 10/6/2011 8:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by a_in_the_b on 10/6/2011 7:20:00 PM (view original):
They can wait until after signings begin, and then the cost of those states is based on the UNSIGNED recruit population of the states, which becomes markedly   cheaper as recruits come off the boards.  I know of one person who doesn't even START recruiting - or presumably even FSS'ing - until the last 24 hours.  If you keep your powder dry and spend once the recruit population starts dropping, the states are cheaper. . and there are still nice recruits from the dropdowns occurring.


I just don't have the patience for this strategy, but as a further benefit, by waiting, you'll find a majority of teams/coaches have already spent there money and won't be looking to poach your guys, so you can sign them on the cheap. It only takes $1100 for a high prestige school to sign anyone at their Divisional level from anywhere in the country if you know how...
Same with me - I don't have the patience to even try this lol.
Neither do I.  I get too paranoid I won't be able to still find the guys I want.

It would drive me bonkers.

10/6/2011 8:59 PM
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