big budget - lots of schollies - strategy? Topic

(for my mizzou team)

so i've never had more than 4 schollies before - let alone the 150k i'm going to have including postseason cash and rollover...

so now i'm done with the humblebrag...

what the hell do I do with all this cash?

I know i need gueards - do i go for 2 jucos and 2 freshmen?

do i go for any big men at all?

do i try for studs with a b- and tons of cash or do i go 590ish and potential (hopefully)

are internationals a waste of money i could save for later?

should i be promising starts to 2 guards - cause 2 are going to start anyway....

what about redshirting and ineligibles, i like balanced classes,....

anyhoo - any help is appreciated - thanks ahead of time
5/30/2012 9:03 AM
Personally, I would do the following:

Try to locate a stud close by that isn't an obvious need for an A+ school that is also local (like if the #1 SF in in Kansas and KU has no SFs, skip him) and go heavy after him from the start.

I would also try to find 1 decent Readshirt candidate/potential guy/ineligible that you can likely sign for $5k-$10k.

Then I would try to find a #20-#30 at their position guy, or a Juco that could help you now.

And then I would wait and assume your big bankroll helps you land the stud.....if you get lucky and have no battles, I'd make a big move on somone else's guard the day of signings.  Find someone over extended and in some battles.

But land one top 10 at their position guy with all that money.
5/30/2012 10:22 AM
- I don't ever post how much recruiting money I have... just a personal thing but then you have tipped your hand. I love when people underestimate how much I have and try and battle me, then I beat them.
5/30/2012 10:26 AM
I wrote the above thinking you had 4 open.  Here is what I would do.  Try to sign 2 studs and 3-4 solid role players.

I will rephrase.  No one wants to battle with someone with $150k.  Just avoid looking weak.  Pick 1 stud and spend $20k on him first cycle and go to the mat for him. 

The other openings, try to fill 3 with decent players that are in the $10k range.  Maybe a 4th if things are going well.  You want guys that no one will battle you for, and avoid big battles. 

Then wait with 4-5 considering only you...hopefully you have $90k left and are twiddling your thumbs day 2.  On signing day, find a poach target and spend $50k+ on them.
5/30/2012 10:27 AM
Posted by gvsujulius on 5/30/2012 10:26:00 AM (view original):
- I don't ever post how much recruiting money I have... just a personal thing but then you have tipped your hand. I love when people underestimate how much I have and try and battle me, then I beat them.
Better to avoid the battle in the first place methinks.
5/30/2012 10:28 AM
Posted by reinsel on 5/30/2012 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by gvsujulius on 5/30/2012 10:26:00 AM (view original):
- I don't ever post how much recruiting money I have... just a personal thing but then you have tipped your hand. I love when people underestimate how much I have and try and battle me, then I beat them.
Better to avoid the battle in the first place methinks.
+1. This thread is more about "hey everyone in phelan, I have 150k cash so don't battle me" as opposed to "omg, I don't know how to recruit with so much money." Let's be honest here, if you were able to recruit well with 75k for 4 slots, you can recruit very well with 150k for 6 slots. 
5/30/2012 12:02 PM
My strategy with 6 plus is to go hard early after 3 guys I feel I can land. I then will add one player per day after locking up the first three and look for a bargain or possible undefended player around signing to round out the six.
5/30/2012 12:21 PM
You should recruit one big man for roster balance purposes. Preferably one that can give you some rebounding.
5/30/2012 12:22 PM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 5/30/2012 12:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by reinsel on 5/30/2012 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by gvsujulius on 5/30/2012 10:26:00 AM (view original):
- I don't ever post how much recruiting money I have... just a personal thing but then you have tipped your hand. I love when people underestimate how much I have and try and battle me, then I beat them.
Better to avoid the battle in the first place methinks.
+1. This thread is more about "hey everyone in phelan, I have 150k cash so don't battle me" as opposed to "omg, I don't know how to recruit with so much money." Let's be honest here, if you were able to recruit well with 75k for 4 slots, you can recruit very well with 150k for 6 slots. 
Exactly, tianyi. I took the post as more of a back off because I'll get whoever I go after instead of tipping his hand.
5/30/2012 1:05 PM
Eh, $150k with a B- isn't all that scary to someone with $90-100k and an A prestige and 4 openings. 
5/30/2012 1:28 PM
or an A+ with six openings?
5/30/2012 1:49 PM
When it comes to BCS recruiting, you have to know your place at the start, and take note of what everyone else around you is doing. What I mean by that is, find all of your close geographic rivals and pay attention to where they are spending money/how much money they have left approximately. Read FSS updates. Take notice of any changes.

When I talk about knowing your place, that means respecting the higher prestige schools and their needs first. If you're a B-, and you're right next to A- Iowa State and he needs three bigs, probably don't go for the best big in the area right away. You're just wasting your money. However, if he DOES go for the best big in the area, and spends a lot of money elsewhere, like in the international market, that is a potential poach target for late in recruiting if you are paying attention.

I recommend finding two to three targets that you think fit your system and are of good enough caliber, and get on them right away. Make sure you have FSS locked up, as in very tight or high priority( in pipeline, 6-10k for no stars, 10-15k for stars), as a message to any other school that sees it that you have spent a decent amount of money into the player and that it would take a significant chunk to knock you off of the player. Failure to do this leaves you open to competition on your recruits.

The biggest disadvantage you can give yourself is to spread yourself too thin with your huge bankroll. Treat your money in chunks rather than as a whole, if that makes sense. If you're going to do something, make a strong play to put pressure on other coaches. Do math. If you're 170 miles out with 4 scholarships and a B-, and the player you really want is 350 miles away from an A- school with 2 ships, see how much his CV's/HV's cost and how many CV's/HV's you both can get off realistically.

Sorry, a lot of random thoughts in this post. Hope it helps. I also realize that I have no titles, so take it with a grain of salt if you please. 
5/30/2012 2:28 PM (edited)
All I do when I have that much cash is start a thread and ask everyone for help. Then I just sit down anf pick the 6 best players in the country.and sign them for a scholly and a phone call.
5/30/2012 3:00 PM
Posted by wsut on 5/30/2012 2:28:00 PM (view original):
When it comes to BCS recruiting, you have to know your place at the start, and take note of what everyone else around you is doing. What I mean by that is, find all of your close geographic rivals and pay attention to where they are spending money/how much money they have left approximately. Read FSS updates. Take notice of any changes.

When I talk about knowing your place, that means respecting the higher prestige schools and their needs first. If you're a B-, and you're right next to A- Iowa State and he needs three bigs, probably don't go for the best big in the area right away. You're just wasting your money. However, if he DOES go for the best big in the area, and spends a lot of money elsewhere, like in the international market, that is a potential poach target for late in recruiting if you are paying attention.

I recommend finding two to three targets that you think fit your system and are of good enough caliber, and get on them right away. Make sure you have FSS locked up, as in very tight or high priority( in pipeline, 6-10k for no stars, 10-15k for stars), as a message to any other school that sees it that you have spent a decent amount of money into the player and that it would take a significant chunk to knock you off of the player. Failure to do this leaves you open to competition on your recruits.

The biggest disadvantage you can give yourself is to spread yourself too thin with your huge bankroll. Treat your money in chunks rather than as a whole, if that makes sense. If you're going to do something, make a strong play to put pressure on other coaches. Do math. If you're 170 miles out with 4 scholarships and a B-, and the player you really want is 350 miles away from an A- school with 2 ships, see how much his CV's/HV's cost and how many CV's/HV's you both can get off realistically.

Sorry, a lot of random thoughts in this post. Hope it helps. I also realize that I have no titles, so take it with a grain of salt if you please. 
Lack of titles have nothing to do with this coaches advice. It is all really good information. +1
5/30/2012 5:33 PM
Posted by dwoelflin07 on 5/30/2012 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wsut on 5/30/2012 2:28:00 PM (view original):
When it comes to BCS recruiting, you have to know your place at the start, and take note of what everyone else around you is doing. What I mean by that is, find all of your close geographic rivals and pay attention to where they are spending money/how much money they have left approximately. Read FSS updates. Take notice of any changes.

When I talk about knowing your place, that means respecting the higher prestige schools and their needs first. If you're a B-, and you're right next to A- Iowa State and he needs three bigs, probably don't go for the best big in the area right away. You're just wasting your money. However, if he DOES go for the best big in the area, and spends a lot of money elsewhere, like in the international market, that is a potential poach target for late in recruiting if you are paying attention.

I recommend finding two to three targets that you think fit your system and are of good enough caliber, and get on them right away. Make sure you have FSS locked up, as in very tight or high priority( in pipeline, 6-10k for no stars, 10-15k for stars), as a message to any other school that sees it that you have spent a decent amount of money into the player and that it would take a significant chunk to knock you off of the player. Failure to do this leaves you open to competition on your recruits.

The biggest disadvantage you can give yourself is to spread yourself too thin with your huge bankroll. Treat your money in chunks rather than as a whole, if that makes sense. If you're going to do something, make a strong play to put pressure on other coaches. Do math. If you're 170 miles out with 4 scholarships and a B-, and the player you really want is 350 miles away from an A- school with 2 ships, see how much his CV's/HV's cost and how many CV's/HV's you both can get off realistically.

Sorry, a lot of random thoughts in this post. Hope it helps. I also realize that I have no titles, so take it with a grain of salt if you please. 
Lack of titles have nothing to do with this coaches advice. It is all really good information. +1
Agreed.
5/30/2012 6:01 PM
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