I think I should be qualified for better jobs . . Topic

My VMI team

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5 straight 20 win seasons, but no big dance appearances (lost in conference tourney final last 4 seasons in a row). Won division 4 out of 5 seasons. Made PI 3/5 seasons. Impossible to get at-large bid from this conference, usually have 9 to 11 sim teams, all D prestige with RPIs in the 200s.

Got my team prestige from D- to C+, my resume says exceeding expectations, yet I'm not qualified for even a C+ prestige team.

Literally, every job at C+ or higher says not qualified.

Thoughts?
11/27/2019 7:48 AM
It must be the lack of NT Appearances
11/27/2019 7:58 AM
I wish I was taller...
11/27/2019 8:06 AM
Yea without even making the NT at all in 5 seasons, I'm not sure I'd expect to get a better job yet. I would assume your success in the long run would be better if you built on what you've accomplished at your current school. You'd do better at C+ with the players that YOU have recruited. Compared to taking over a C+ school with all sim players. No?
11/27/2019 9:22 AM
the resume primarily turns on the last 4 seasons, if not entirely - and your last 4 include two no post season and two PIT. i don't know what you are trying to get, but based on my experience, what you are saying sounds about right. i think even making the PIT two more seasons would help, but in general to get a decent b- BCS job, you are going to need to be like NT1 average or so. your conference tournament looks winnable, at least from time to time, when you get 2 of those in 4 seasons you should be able to get a low end BCS job i would think. maybe even 1 with 3 PITs?
11/27/2019 9:29 AM
Not to repeat what has already been said, but NTs have significantly more impact on job potential than PIs. To gil's point - the last 4 seasons are most of what matters, if not entirely - and your 4th slot holds a non-postseason appearance. After next season, if you make the postseason, the formula should value you a bit higher as that non-postseason will be substituted for a postseason appearance. However, the formula also values the most recent season most so making sure you achieve a PI F4 or better is key to maximizing your improvement.

Side note: If you feel as though it's a conference strength problem, winning the conference or having a SMART (not just strong) OOC are the only ways to lock in a bid. It looks like you tried doing that this season but unfortunately having those 2 200+ RPIs at home in there only exacerbated the problem. Next season, I see almost all triple digit RPIs (I haven't looked at the teams in depth so maybe they'll be good come next season). If you're going to do that, try and make all of them away games.

"The basic formula is 25% team winning percentage (WP), 50% opponents' average winning percentage (OWP), and 25% opponents' opponents' average winning percentage (OOWP). When calculating winning percentage (WP), the RPI weights a road win as 1.4 x a normal win, a home loss as 1.4 x a normal loss, a road loss as 0.6 x a normal loss and a home win as 0.6 x a normal win - neutral site games are not adjusted (weighted at 1.0)." is from the HD Knowledge Base.

You'll have a young roster next year but being smart with scheduling can help facilitate your success. If you have any questions about what I tend to look for, PM me. I think smart scheduling is the biggest reason for being able to make the postseason Knight ACC after some REALLY bad recruiting seasons several seasons ago.
11/27/2019 11:55 AM
Stop scheduling so many home games in non con.

You weren't that far from at large territory this season, 59th in the PR. The way you schedule is leaving RPI on the table..
11/27/2019 12:01 PM
With the system that exists, the others are right. You will either need to make the NT consistently, or have a couple deep runs, to be eligible for most power conference jobs. Even if you are eligible for, say, D+ Rutgers after a NT appearance next year, is that a job you want?

That said, you can make a case - as I’ve done, many times - that the game would be more attractive, and would retain more users if it didn’t take so many seasons and so much money for the average user to reach power conference jobs.
11/27/2019 12:10 PM
the scheduling comments are on point, i will add that RPI manipulation was the whole game before new seeding, but now its very much about record vs top X (25, 50, 75, 100) - so its very valuable for you to get a lot of games vs double digit RPI teams in your non conf, the ones who aren't that great who you hopefully can beat.
11/27/2019 2:11 PM
My Illinois team in Wooden this year was 0-1 vs Top25 RPI and 21-0 against 25-100th, and actually got #1 on the PR ahead of an undefeated team with 4 Top 10 wins. It was because I got so many (relatively easy) wins against the 50th-100th section, while the other guy let his team play 13 games against 100+ teams and was only 12-0 against 25-100th.
11/27/2019 2:19 PM
My Illinois team in Wooden this year was 0-1 vs Top20 RPI and 21-0 against 20-100th, and actually got #1 on the PR ahead of an undefeated team with 4 Top 10 wins. It was because I got so many (relatively easy) wins against the 50th-100th section, while the other guy let his team play 13 games against 100+ teams and was only 12-0 against 10-100th.
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11/27/2019 2:25 PM (edited)
Isn't your coaching resume based on a longer time frame than 4 seasons?

Prestige is based on the most recent 4, but I remember the resume in the job hiring process was expanded to closer to 10 seasons. Was that amended back to only include 4?
11/27/2019 2:35 PM
Posted by oldwarrior on 11/27/2019 2:35:00 PM (view original):
Isn't your coaching resume based on a longer time frame than 4 seasons?

Prestige is based on the most recent 4, but I remember the resume in the job hiring process was expanded to closer to 10 seasons. Was that amended back to only include 4?
i think it was prestige that went back a lot more than 4, actually i don't think there's a limit, more of a practical one (i think it merges new prestige with old so technically even season 1 counts, even if its 0.000000000001% by now).

but i definitely am not sure about either, prestige or jobs. i thought jobs was the 4 season one.
11/27/2019 3:06 PM
Prestige is last 4. Jobs is last 10, last 3 or 4 weighted heavily.
11/27/2019 3:13 PM
interesting, did they change that prestige to 4 at some point? i feel like it definitely wasn't last 4 back in the day, but i also never paid too much attention to it. i must be mis-remembering that 4 years thing, thinking its re: jobs when its really re: prestige. that is pretty cool jobs goes back 10 seasons, i always thought it was dumb it was so short.
11/27/2019 4:21 PM (edited)
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