Six Random Pages - [full, but seeking wait list] Topic

For years I've run my Random Pages theme, with each owner having to build a roster from pages randomly generated on www.baseball-reference.com. It's a challenge because it gets people outside their comfort zones, having to use players they've never considered before instead of old reliables, and having to resort to entirely different roster strategies because of the talent pool they're assigned.

When you enter, I will generate SIX random pages for you, which will form the talent pool for your roster. You will then choose four players from each "page" for their squad, plus a wild card 25th man of your own choosing, from the entire universe of eligible players. [If you get a terrible pitching draw, you can make up for it with Charley Radbourn or Silver King.]

The most common result of the random page generator nowadays are the box scores that go back to 1913, which come up around 70% of the time. When you get a box score, you'll be obliged to take any four players who played in that game - no twisting. You only get to twist players if the page you've drawn at random shows their career statistics.

The rest of the time, you could get any sort of result: players from an all-star game, pitching leaders from a season or a franchise, leaders in any statistical category, players from a certain college, etc. Most of these are pretty self-explanatory: you take four players listed on the page. If you get a player page, you have to roster that player, and any three of his teammates from the season you choose for him. [no twisting for the teammates] If you draw a really odd page, I'll make the ground rules for you as it comes up.

Confused? Here's a sample draw:

1. P Francisley Bueno 2008-14
2. P Tommy Atkins 1909-10
3. 1933 MLB Died This Year - you’d pick any four players there, in any season of their career
4. Tigers @ White Sox, May 7, 1919 [but you can only take four of the Eight Men Out!]
5. P Jake Esch 2016-17
6. Cardinals @ Braves, July 8, 1982

Pitching is the biggest wild card in the draw: in the case above, you'd be limited to the pitchers used in the two games listed, all of the pitchers who died in 1933 [but you could use those guys in any season of their career, which is a huge help] - plus Bueno, Atkins, Esch, and their teammates. Actually, Atkins pitched for the 1910 Athletics, so this team could have a lights-out pitching staff if you want to go that route.

One aspect of the league is that sometimes your page will include players who didn't have a season eligible for the SIM: for example, Jake Esch never pitched more than 13 innings in a season. So I will have to assign you a guy to represent him for the season, from the pool of below-average AAA players [but not way-below average, so they all should have SOME value to you]. I love that the league includes guys like this, but I have struggled to find the right balance for using them. This year, we will limit every owner to three non-sim players, either from your box scores, or the players you are assigned, or their teammates. In the sample draw, you’d have to use Jake Esch, but you could also choose to take Bueno in his 2008 season, so that you could use his teammates from the 2008 Braves, instead of the 2014 Royals which is his only sim-rated season.

One other problem with the random draw is that some owners will get a way better talent pool than others. I have previously kept the salary cap pretty low to try and level the playing field, and owners have cried about the excruciating choices they must make trying to fit four guys from the 1927 Yankees into a $72m cap.

This year, we’ll try something different: you get to decide your own payroll, anywhere between $60 million and $90 million, based on the talent you draw. HOWEVER, league alignment will be strictly by team salary, so if you go for the expensive star players, you will have to compete with the other owners who have done the same in the NL East. That will give teams with the lowest payroll a chance to win the AL West and qualify for the playoffs, and who knows what might happen from there? It might look more like today’s MLB than most leagues we see around here.

Other rules:
No waiver wire or trading.
Injuries off.
No DH.
No whining about your draw!
Your home stadium must be the home park for one of your 25 players - including your wild card.

Any more questions? Feel free to ask here. Building a team this way is a lot of fun, in a hair-pulling sort of way sometimes, but it's a good baseball puzzle for the holiday season. Merry Christmas to all, and sign up right here! Oh, and whoever is the first to sign up can also generate six random pages for my team. Be kind to me!

Owners: trd3; cal8ss; dlchow; jkorn; fatguyrd; flakfizer; midknight; eman7400; thehuseman; vilefileman; big_dowg; finn2030; toddcommish; Rattlers; Belsea; harrelson; GeorgeHRuth; normy17; dhomard; 3dayrotation; redcped; kevinjb; reddtrain
12/24/2019 11:57 AM (edited)
Fun league. I will play again.
12/7/2019 11:56 AM
I'm in again
12/7/2019 11:58 AM
What happens if only one owner chooses 60 million and the rest 90 million? Out of luck?
12/7/2019 12:17 PM
trd3: Welcome back! Here are the first six pages of the year for you:

1. Reds @ Boston Braves, July 31, 1942
2. Orioles @ Brewers, April 14, 1973
3. Cardinals @ Phillies, May 15, 1915 - Pete Alexander beat Bill Doak!
4. OF Bob Hazle
5. Angels at Blue Jays, June 14, 1979
6. 1989 Houston Astros Trades and Transactions

For the last page, you can use any four players listed, for their 1989 season, whether it was with the Astros or another team.

I wonder which season of Hurricane Hazle you will use ?
12/7/2019 12:18 PM
cal8ss: Welcome! Here are six pages:

1. * C Tom Walsh 1906 Cubs - no SIM season - see below
2. 3B-2B Larry Gardner
3. Cubs @ Reds, May 30, 1951, second game of doubleheader
4. Players by Birthplace: Panama Baseball Statistics & Information [any four players who were born in Panama]
5. DH-OF Al Greene 1979
6. Browns @ Red Sox, July 29, 1927

So, for Tom Walsh - just roster a 200k player for now, and I will find an AAA catcher for you to take his place. My AAA replacement choices will generally have 100-200 PA
12/7/2019 12:25 PM
Posted by normy17 on 12/7/2019 12:17:00 PM (view original):
What happens if only one owner chooses 60 million and the rest 90 million? Out of luck?
I guess you'd be out of luck. I would be very surprised if everyone pushes the $90m cap, but I have no idea how low someone might dare to go, since we haven't done it this way before. Perhaps everyone could post their payroll as they post rosters for verification, and then teams would be allowed to make a last-minute roster adjustment of up to $5 million if they wanted, once they see how the numbers fall? That way you could try to go for a certain bracket, but there wouldn't be any guarantee where you'd wind up.

EDIT: Instead of putting a $5m cap on changes, let's just say you can replace any ONE player on your 25-man approved roster, to adjust your total salary up or down. You can change your wild card pick and keep the same 25 guys, or change out a player from a box score for someone else, etc., but only ONE roster change is allowed once approved.
12/7/2019 7:32 PM (edited)
I'll give it a go again. Thanks!
12/7/2019 12:33 PM
dlchow: Welcome back! Here are six pages for you:

1. Boston Braves @ NY Giants, September 1, 1947, second game of doubleheader
2. Manager Dusty Cooke - he only managed one partial season, so it's the 1948 Phillies for you
3. C Tim Federowicz 2011-2019
4. Mets @ Pirates, June 29, 1988
5. Angels @ Royals, May 7, 2008
6. Newark Pepper @ Buffalo Blues, August 31, 1915 - a Federal League game!
12/7/2019 12:39 PM
Also, I need a draw, if someone wants to do one for me!
12/7/2019 12:41 PM
Put me in please
12/7/2019 12:47 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY. THANKS
12/7/2019 1:03 PM
I'm in! I think I played this years ago...
12/7/2019 1:10 PM
I'll play!
12/7/2019 1:18 PM
jkorn: You're in! Here are six pages for you:

1. 1991 Cincinnati Reds Schedule - see below
2. Most Games Played with no World Series Appearances - lists career stats so you can use any season of their career!
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/leaders_most_gamesnows.shtml
3. Braves @ Phillies, September 24, 2002 - Eric Junge (?) defeated Tom Glavine
4. 1986 St. Louis Cardinals Fielding Statistics [all players, including pitchers]
5. Cubs @ Reds, June 5, 2009
6. P Spud Chandler 1937-47

note: "Schedule" pages show the results of every game that season, but the only players listed are the winning pitcher, losing pitcher, and save. So, you can take any of those players listed: any pitcher who had a decision for the Reds, OR AGAINST THEM, but only for their 1991 season
12/7/2019 1:53 PM
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