a "TRUE" Core Franchise league Topic

bringing this back from YEARS ago...
$75m cap / no WW

DEF / OL / ST / K / P must all come from same franchise / same year (ex: '75 Rams)

QB / RB / WR / TE must come from a 4 year span before and after your core year ('75 Rams = players from '71 - '79)

CLONES - no clones with the following exception: you choose '45 Redskins as your core - Sammy Baugh is your designated punter. you can also have Baugh as a QB, BUT if you do, you must use the '45 Baugh. you CANNOT have a different year Baugh as QB.

will site mail league number once you pick a team. can have multiple teams. will re-align trying to use as best current divisional alignments as possible.

franchises can be used multiple times, just cannot use the same core year (may mess up re-alignment, but will do the best as possible)

team is entered in league, but not confirmed to guidelines
team confirmed
problems - sitemail sent
not entered in league yet

1 - glen87 ---> 1975 Rams ('71-'79 players)
2 - cellkev ---> 1973 Dolphins ('69-'77 players)
3 - Husker75 ---> 1958 Colts ('54-'62 players) ---> changed from '59
4 - rmarsh915 ---> 1969 Chiefs ('65-'73 players)
5 - luvyablue ---> 1993 Oilers ('89-'97 players)
6 - specsman ---> 1983 Bengals ('79-'87 players)

7 - bmbigdog44 ---> 1966 Chiefs. (‘62-‘70 players)
8 - georgedeer ---> 1969 Vikings ('65-'73 players)
9 - scrimy ---> 1976 Raiders ('72-'80 players )
10 - tomhanrahan ---> 2008 Steelers ('04-'12 players)
11- kern_82 ---> 1986 Bears ('82-'90 players)
12 - zfarmer100 ---> 2015 Chiefs ('11-'19 players)
13 - zfarmer100 ---> 2019 Steelers ('15-'19 players)

14 - tomhanrahan ---> 1948 Bears ('44-'52 players
15 - gwhouse ---> 1962 Packers ('58-'66 players)
16 - gwhouse ---> 1941 Bears ('41-'45 players)

17- poppapomp ---> 1971 Rams ('67-'75 players)
18 - riverratk --> 1946 Browns ('42-'50 players)
19 - dspahlinger ---> 1999 Rams ('95-'03 players)
20 - riverratk --> 1952 Browns ('48-'56 players)
21- tidealer ---> 2013 Seahawks ('09-'17 players)
22 - darkballer ---> 1949 Eagles ('45-'53 players)
23 - arm123 ---> 1992 Cowboys ('88-'96 players)
24 - fumanchu ---> 2006 Ravens ('02-'10 players)
25 - darny10 ---> 2013 Saints ('09-'17 players) ---> changed from '09 Packers
26 - fumanchu ---> 2012 Broncos ('08-'16 players)


sitemail list: glen87 ; arm123 ; bmbigdog44 ; cellkev ; darkballer ; darny10 ; dspahlinger ; fumanchu ; georgedeer ; gwhouse ; Husker75 ; kern_82 ; luvyablue ; poppapomp ; riverratk ; rmarsh915 ; scrimy ; specsman ; tidealer ; tomhanrahan ; zfarmer100

dropped instead of fixing roster issues
5 - gyrene ---> 2015 Ravens ('11-'19 players) ---> changed from '85 49ers - (core year is not compliant with time period of allowed players)
13 - gyrene ---> 1985 49ers ('81-'89 players) - (core year is not compliant with time period of allowed players)
4/22/2020 8:14 PM (edited)
If this ever get's off the ground, I'll go with the '73 Dolphins.
12/19/2019 1:01 PM
thanks cellkev, it will be rough, but at least TRYING to get something different going.

just let me know if / when you want the league number
12/19/2019 7:27 PM
Sounds good.
I'll try with the 1959 Baltimore Colts.
12/22/2019 4:44 PM
I will give this a look after NDL13 gets done
12/23/2019 9:17 AM
thanks Husker, and hope you decide to join us tomhanrahan for something different
12/24/2019 2:35 PM
I *might* take the 2008 Steelers
12/25/2019 3:58 PM
I'll give it a try. Give me the 1969 Chiefs.
12/26/2019 12:02 PM
thanks rmarsh and the 2008 steelers are yours if you decide tomhanrahan. if not, no worries, just let me know.

thanks!
12/26/2019 3:16 PM
If I read this correctly, QB, RB, WR and TE must all come from any of the years except the core year? And the remainder must come from the core, true?
12/26/2019 8:59 PM
Posted by gyrene on 12/26/2019 9:00:00 PM (view original):
If I read this correctly, QB, RB, WR and TE must all come from any of the years except the core year? And the remainder must come from the core, true?
no. they can also be the core year. it basically a 9 year range for them (4 on either side). the purpose for this is to try and keep it as close as possible to the team that actually played together. using brady for example, you are not taking a 2018 brady and putting him with the 2000 patriots where he only played 1 game.
12/28/2019 10:05 AM
Thanks, glen. I will take the '49ers of 1985 as my core.
12/28/2019 4:13 PM
ok this situation was presented to me via sitemail. what if there is not a 4 year span available around the core year (ex - expansion team).

i had not prepared for this, but will have an answer in the next couple of days.

possible scenarios:

1 - tough, deal with it or pick a different core year.

2 - using the Buccaneers as an example (1976 was first season), Spurrier was the QB, he has a $3.4m season in 1972. since '72 would be the first available year for players, allow this as an exception since that fits the parameters of the league concept. problem i have with this, is if this applies to teams without the 4 year prior window, why should it also not apply to other teams. using my '75 Rams as an example: Harold Jackson is a member of that '75 (core year team), BUT '71 and '72 he was with the Eagles, and '78 and '79 he was with the Patriots. so by Rams terms he is only available to me '73, '74, 75, 76, '77, but he does have those other 4 years in the database.

willing to listen to thoughts, but i will make a decision by the weekend.
12/30/2019 6:49 PM
posting a copy of the original league rules in this post so everyone can see them in an unedited post:

ORIGINAL RULES:

bringing this back from YEARS ago...
$75m cap / no WW

DEF / OL / ST / K / P must all come from same franchise / same year (ex: '75 Rams)

QB / RB / WR / TE must come from a 4 year span before and after your core year ('75 Rams = players from '71 - '79)

CLONES - no clones with the following exception: you choose '45 Redskins as your core - Sammy Baugh is your designated punter. you can also have Baugh as a QB, BUT if you do, you must use the '45 Baugh. you CANNOT have a different year Baugh as QB.

will site mail league number once you pick a team. can have multiple teams. will re-align trying to use as best current divisional alignments as possible.

franchises can be used multiple times, just cannot use the same core year (may mess up re-alignment, but will do the best as possible)
12/30/2019 6:50 PM
ok my last post on this until i decide.

after reading, re-reading, and re-re-reading the original rules. no where does it say the player has to come from the actual team that is the core (i am a big believer of if it does not say i cannot do something, then i can do it, and do not read words that are not there into the statement.). in the rules, i specifically laid out plans for clones, but there is no mention that (in my example with Harold Jackson), that i could not use a non Rams season. for clarity, i did use a Rams season for Jackson, and never even considered non Rams seasons for any of the players i picked. however, by the way the rule is written, it appears i could have.


league intent: take a core group of players (1975 Rams) - and under the "what-if" scenario, what would that '75 Rams team been like if you could pick the "best" season of a player within a reasonable span of years (4 years either side was chosen to form a 9 year span). what i did not want to happen was to get players who potentially never played together (2018 Brady on 2000 Patriots core), so though 9 years was a good compromise.
12/30/2019 7:03 PM
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