Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2019 6:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 4/25/2019 5:59:00 PM (view original):
If you think homosexuality is unchristian because it 'breaks a commandment', hate to break it to you but Trump has broken commandments 3, 4, 7, 9, and 10.

that is the sort of response you always get from Trump supporters when someone accuses Trump of something. But HRC did this, Bill Clinton did that, Obama did this. One has nothing to do with the other. I don't think I ever saw a post from al3 proclaiming trump to be a wonderful Christian.

You are missing the point. All3 is saying that he won't vote for Pete Buttigieg because he violated a commandment in his eyes. Trump violated 5.

I'm arguing for consistency in ideals.

Posted by tangplay on 4/25/2019 9:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2019 6:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 4/25/2019 5:59:00 PM (view original):
If you think homosexuality is unchristian because it 'breaks a commandment', hate to break it to you but Trump has broken commandments 3, 4, 7, 9, and 10.

that is the sort of response you always get from Trump supporters when someone accuses Trump of something. But HRC did this, Bill Clinton did that, Obama did this. One has nothing to do with the other. I don't think I ever saw a post from al3 proclaiming trump to be a wonderful Christian.

You are missing the point. All3 is saying that he won't vote for Pete Buttigieg because he violated a commandment in his eyes. Trump violated 5.

a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush ?

Grab em' by the *****------John 3:17

you did not choose to be gay.

Posted by all3 on 4/26/2019 9:53:00 AM (view original):
I see Tang is still shoveling his hate and making unfounded accusations about people.
Try as he might, he will not find anywhere I said I would not vote for anyone because they are gay.
I'm sure that won't stop his ranting about me, because TRUTH has NEVER stopped him before, but hey, if it makes him feel better, then let him have at it.
Choosing to be gay is a decision that I need to weigh when considering a candidate, just as every other decision they have made is to be considered. In my view, it's a pretty large, pretty bad decision, that would need to be offset by many other what I view as good decisions and/or ideas.
Tangs warped, delusional, hate-filled mind wants to scream racism or bigotry or whatever other "buzz" word he feels will grab attention, about everything anyone doesn't agree with him about. I truly believe that makes him the close-minded one, and again, not worth the time and effort needed by anyone to try to converse with him.

You clearly are responding to.me, so.you might as well address me directly instead of standing on your high horse. That said, being gay is not a choice, and even if it was, it's not a bad choice, and even if it was, it's not a reason to vote against someone.

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Posted by dino27 on 4/24/2019 3:54:00 PM (view original):
also what does mayor pete have to do with " sexual choice ".
we live in a free country......he is a candidate who happens to be gay.
all3 is frightened by that.
we live in a brave new world...all3 you will have to get used to it.

dino, unfortunately I think we live in the same crappy old world we have always lived in. I don't know that this country is willing to elect a woman president, let alone an openly gay one.

No, I do NOT need to "get used to it".
I need to accept that it is a poor CHOICE that more and more people in some Liberal Countries, including America, are being allowed to make more openly, and I need to accept that I should treat those people the same as I treat people who do not make that choice, but I do not need to in any way, shape, or form pretend that I accept it is anything more than that.
This is yet another already had discussion being drudged up again. There really is no point in having it again, so I will not.

What are you talking about? You won't vote for Buttigieg because of his sexual preference. Because he happens to be gay. **** you. You are a disgusting person.

I don't think all3 is a disgusting person. I may think some of his views are ridiculous, but he is just following what he believes. I disagree that being gay is a choice. all3 feels it is a choice (but why would anyone choose to be gay, if they had a choice? It makes their life so much harder) That is his belief, and nothing you or I or anyone else says is going to make him change his belief. I have no problem with a person who follows their beliefs, even if I disagree with those beliefs. What I have a problem with is those people trying to force their beliefs on others.

I think bigots are disgusting. All3 is being blatantly homophobic.

Not that I agree at all with all3's belief regarding gays, but I don't think it is the same as bigotry. He feels that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of his God. I don't think he thinks being African American or Hispanic is a sin in the eyes of his God. You may disagree, but I don't think it is the same thing.
As I said, I don't agree at all with hiss viewpoint, but it is his interpretation of his religion. I know it is not the same thing, but Jews who keep kosher and Muslims do not eat pork. Are they bigoted against pigss? No, it is just their religious belief.

Not voting for someone because they are gay is bigoted in my opinion.

Also they would be less bigoted against pigs if anything.

I understand that is your opinion. My opinion is that all3 wouldn't not vote for him because he is gay. He wouldn't vote for him because he views being gay as a sin. It is not the same thing as being bigoted. I don't agree with him that being gay is a choice, or that is a sin, but he is certainly entitled to his belief, just as you or I am. Just because you don't agree with those beliefs, does not make them any less valid to all3.

Posted by tangplay on 4/25/2019 9:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2019 6:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 4/25/2019 5:59:00 PM (view original):
If you think homosexuality is unchristian because it 'breaks a commandment', hate to break it to you but Trump has broken commandments 3, 4, 7, 9, and 10.

that is the sort of response you always get from Trump supporters when someone accuses Trump of something. But HRC did this, Bill Clinton did that, Obama did this. One has nothing to do with the other. I don't think I ever saw a post from al3 proclaiming trump to be a wonderful Christian.

You are missing the point. All3 is saying that he won't vote for Pete Buttigieg because he violated a commandment in his eyes. Trump violated 5.

You are missing the point. We are not talking about trump here. We are talking about Buttgieg.

i have to say this quite bluntly...with no regard to any religion....anyone who thinks people can or would choose to be gay have got to be true actual morons....really really dumb..... living in a dream world...i think a lot of those idiots are closet gays like all of those catholic priests and nuns.
at least i dont hear all3 saying it is a mental illness....i take that as progress......

Please correct me if I concluded too much from your post about Jesus, the oil, and the naked man attempting to flee arrest.

BUT, I have always wondered and looked for ANY explanation about the missing years (in the Biblical recounting) of Jesus' life. About 12 years are unaccounted for in the Bible as I recall. So, are you (kinda) inferring that Jesus was, perhaps, searching for his own understanding of sexuality and that HE MAY have been interested/engaged in homosexual behavior??? I can't find my own Bible at the moment to look up the Mark scripture reference you furnished. If that's what you were hinting at, THAT would be a very BIG controversy among the followers of Christianity and MIGHT begin to explain or put the Catholic Priest "issue" into some perspective as to it's why??

Anyone care to correct me (Dino) or respond to this rather astounding scripture reference!??

Posted by dino27 on 4/26/2019 1:13:00 PM (view original):
i have to say this quite bluntly...with no regard to any religion....anyone who thinks people can or would choose to be gay have got to be true actual morons....really really dumb..... living in a dream world...i think a lot of those idiots are closet gays like all of those catholic priests and nuns.
at least i dont hear all3 saying it is a mental illness....i take that as progress......

well, dino...I have to say this quite bluntly.For you to make a blanket statement that anyone who thinks people can choose to be gay are morons is a pretty stupid, close minded statement. Just like BL saying anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot. I rarely agree with anything all3 says, but I'm pretty confident he is not a moron. I think he is a fairly intelligent person, who happens to believe many things I don't believe.
Not just saying this about you, dino, but I think one of the biggest problems we face is that very few people have an open mind. They are intolerant of any viewpoint that is different from theirs. That applies to democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives and so on. It is wrong to be so close minded, no matter what your opinions are.

There is no proof that homosexuality is not a choice. People on both sides of the argument claim their belief has been proven (although neither has).
People posting that it is unquestionably not a choice are simply once again ignoring the truth / facts (or lack thereof).
They are entitled to their opinion, just as people are entitled to make that choice, and other people are entitled to the complete opposite. People's insistence on trying to pass their beliefs off as facts is simply more reason to continue to place no value in what they post.

Posted by laramiebob on 4/26/2019 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Please correct me if I concluded too much from your post about Jesus, the oil, and the naked man attempting to flee arrest.

BUT, I have always wondered and looked for ANY explanation about the missing years (in the Biblical recounting) of Jesus' life. About 12 years are unaccounted for in the Bible as I recall. So, are you (kinda) inferring that Jesus was, perhaps, searching for his own understanding of sexuality and that HE MAY have been interested/engaged in homosexual behavior??? I can't find my own Bible at the moment to look up the Mark scripture reference you furnished. If that's what you were hinting at, THAT would be a very BIG controversy among the followers of Christianity and MIGHT begin to explain or put the Catholic Priest "issue" into some perspective as to it's why??

Anyone care to correct me (Dino) or respond to this rather astounding scripture reference!??

i think it is possible that he was....it seems like some kind of sex initiation was involved 9 of course not all ) leaders of cults..part of the personality of cult....im just saying by the naked guy section that their is a lot of wierd stuff in each bible.
how about the talking donkey in the old testament.
or all of the people buried in a cemetary flooding the city after jesus rises......you would think it would have made front page news but no only the gospel....there is so much stuff...that is avoided.

Posted by wylie715 on 4/26/2019 3:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 4/26/2019 1:13:00 PM (view original):
i have to say this quite bluntly...with no regard to any religion....anyone who thinks people can or would choose to be gay have got to be true actual morons....really really dumb..... living in a dream world...i think a lot of those idiots are closet gays like all of those catholic priests and nuns.
at least i dont hear all3 saying it is a mental illness....i take that as progress......

well, dino...I have to say this quite bluntly.For you to make a blanket statement that anyone who thinks people can choose to be gay are morons is a pretty stupid, close minded statement. Just like BL saying anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot. I rarely agree with anything all3 says, but I'm pretty confident he is not a moron. I think he is a fairly intelligent person, who happens to believe many things I don't believe.
Not just saying this about you, dino, but I think one of the biggest problems we face is that very few people have an open mind. They are intolerant of any viewpoint that is different from theirs. That applies to democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives and so on. It is wrong to be so close minded, no matter what your opinions are.

not only am i open minded but im smart.....a person with a good iq can be a moron.......in 2019 when being gay isnt something you read about ...you have to be a moron to think that about a half a billion people around the world just choose it .....you have to be dim witted and nutz.