Posted by brianjw on 10/27/2019 9:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by schwarze on 10/26/2019 9:49:00 PM (view original):
If there aren't enough high salaried players in this theme and most teams won't get close to 140M (without wasting salary on innings or expensive pinch hitters), then the few people who are lucky enough to randomly draw an early pick have a huge advantage. Not sure that was the intention of this league. Maybe you could at least align the division alignment based on team salary.

Or just by draft order.

This, however, does make sense to me. We'll align by Round 1 draft order. (1-4 in NL East, 5-8 in NL Central, etc.)

Posted by ozomatli on 10/28/2019 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by daddyzander on 10/27/2019 5:28:00 PM (view original):
I’ll volunteer to randomize whatever it is you need as well.

Still need one more volunteer

I can help

After reading these comments it appears that this is a league where computer skills are more important than team building skills (I've never heard of a 'pivot table'). Guess I should take a Spreadsheet class if I want to enter next year........ And I agree with what Schwarze said. There's no way possible to use $140M efficiently- and that means there is a huge advantage to the owners who get to select one of the few very good players in the player pool.

Posted by milest on 10/28/2019 1:34:00 PM (view original):
After reading these comments it appears that this is a league where computer skills are more important than team building skills (I've never heard of a 'pivot table'). Guess I should take a Spreadsheet class if I want to enter next year........ And I agree with what Schwarze said. There's no way possible to use $140M efficiently- and that means there is a huge advantage to the owners who get to select one of the few very good players in the player pool.

I disagree with this. With all of the teams available to us, I think it'll be easy to use $140M effectively, even without having a $20M+ player on your roster.

Interestingly enough, the order players were nominated in seems to have benefited the strategic aspect of the league. I find, at least in the beginning, a lot of the more desirable players are with players further down the nomination list. So it'll be a balance between selecting a great player and preserving your draft pick for the next round.

Posted by Jtpsops on 10/28/2019 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by milest on 10/28/2019 1:34:00 PM (view original):
After reading these comments it appears that this is a league where computer skills are more important than team building skills (I've never heard of a 'pivot table'). Guess I should take a Spreadsheet class if I want to enter next year........ And I agree with what Schwarze said. There's no way possible to use $140M efficiently- and that means there is a huge advantage to the owners who get to select one of the few very good players in the player pool.

I disagree with this. With all of the teams available to us, I think it'll be easy to use $140M effectively, even without having a $20M+ player on your roster.

There's no way. The amount of total teams or players is irrelevant. It is the amount of quality. If you were to build an unrestricted $140M team, you wouldn't even consider the vast majority of the player pool. Yes, you can reach $140M, but with IPs and PAs that won't be used. All 25 owners have to select 1 player linked to each nominated player... Go look at the 5th best player in some of these scenarios... That guy is garbage in a lot of cases, yet he and worse players will be must plays... My nomination, for example, honestly has no good position players at all. Some nominations have ZERO quality pitchers (pitchers that would be on an unrestricted $140M playoff roster)... Simple math means that it isn't possible to use $140M effectively considering the rules.

Then perhaps you should have nominated a different player. This is why I didn't understand some people selecting players with a limited amount of years/teammates. It hurts the nominator as much as it does everyone else.

Posted by Jtpsops on 10/28/2019 1:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ozomatli on 10/28/2019 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by daddyzander on 10/27/2019 5:28:00 PM (view original):
I’ll volunteer to randomize whatever it is you need as well.

Still need one more volunteer

I can help

Thanks!

I'm in the camp of not knowing enough about spreadsheets to use them effectively. As a retired teacher/baseball-basketball coach, I spent most of my hours either doing these 3 things or preparing. Guess I should have taken another several hours to learn, At my age, there is just no desire to start learning about them now.

I don't have strong knowledge either. A bit time consuming, but I've created a sheet manually. I've just done a quick scan through each player and noted the top prospects (anywhere from 0-5) on each team. Once those run out, then I guess I'll be doing some heavier research, but I think I have a good enough base for now.

Thanks to daddyzander and Jtpsops -- I've received random lists from both. I'll post the draft order after work tonight along with the player pool. brianjw has the first pick.

Posted by Jtpsops on 10/28/2019 4:11:00 PM (view original):
I don't have strong knowledge either. A bit time consuming, but I've created a sheet manually. I've just done a quick scan through each player and noted the top prospects (anywhere from 0-5) on each team. Once those run out, then I guess I'll be doing some heavier research, but I think I have a good enough base for now.

Same here...I should have enough to last several rounds. Doing a little more each day, digging deeper and adding a few here and there.

Regarding the discussion around whether it will be possible to draft a team that is a fully effective use of the $140M cap:

With a draft league you can never be 100% effective, but that is not the point of the league -- you will always have excess PAs and/or IPs (unless you risk it and go under what is neeeded). The goal for each owner will be to try to draft and put together a team that can come somewhat close to matching a truly effective $140M team. If you are able to put together a team that is as good as a $137-139M team that you would have put together without constraints then you'll have an excellent team in this league. If you put together a team that is equivalent to a $130M team then you'll probably have a .500 team.

The skill with this league is to try to put together a team that would match the quality of an unconstrained team having cap of around $135-139M. That's why a league like this is only done for the 24 of us who make it to round 2.

Posted by Jtpsops on 10/28/2019 1:54:00 PM (view original):
Then perhaps you should have nominated a different player. This is why I didn't understand some people selecting players with a limited amount of years/teammates. It hurts the nominator as much as it does everyone else.

Can't speak to his situation specifically, but many of these kind of nominations are "blacklist" nominations, with the point being to blacklist that player from being drafted.

Posted by ozomatli on 10/28/2019 4:23:00 PM (view original):
Thanks to daddyzander and Jtpsops -- I've received random lists from both. I'll post the draft order after work tonight along with the player pool. brianjw has the first pick.

Now I wish I hadn't made the suggestion about draft order

I have a pick mostly ready, but I just want to confirm that the draft order is right, and that the player I want is genuinely eligible, before starting everything off on the wrong foot.