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Everybody should believe in something that makes them a better person whether it is religion or a moral and ethical life. I realize that many people believe the most important thing is to accept Jesus as your savior and if you believe also believe that he died for mankind.

Only A minuscule number of people that believe that isn’t so would ever convert to that. Probably more people leave that for other religions and Buddhism.

Nobody is going to change their mind - not here and basically not anywhere.

When people try to explain why they don’t believe in - believe it or face eternal damnation and they are not frightened even a little bit it often sounds like insults.
I don’t like to see that happen.

Without insulting anyone I just don’t like the idea of good God - bad God. I don’t believe that for any religion - where people go to a hell for not believing certain things.
But I also do not disrespect the beliefs of others.

The only thing that do not respect is telling someone things that they do not believe when they do not want to hear it.

You can push your political view on someone who disagrees but telling someone that they are going to hell is a little beyond the pale.:)

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Wow hostility! My post was not hostile, nor was it necessarily personally directed at you, at least not in its entirety.
But OK. This is the internet. I get that.
I sense that you felt my post hit too close to home.
None the less, fact be, your "blah blah" comment (apparently you've heard something like my post before?) is exactly correct. You got that right.
Y'all Christians ain't so special. Nor is your God superior to someone else's. Be they Jew, Catholic, Mormon, Hindu, Indigenous (BTW it's "PEACE Pipes), or even Evangelical Snake Handlers.

I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell ya'...........

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Posted by Mwett on 5/3/2023 4:35:00 PM (view original):
Debbie Downer Bob. So mad. When have I ever tried to change anyone's mind ? To my recollection, never ago ? I have a story to tell. It's similar enough to others. It might not be your story and that's fine. But I don't understand the animosity toward mine. I have nothing bad against bears and trees and piece-pipes. But when my God/Jesus is attacked, I'll be there. If you're not up for it, don't engage. In other words, STFU or you get what you get. The only difference between you and fake arse whinely is he's been doing it here twice as long. Somehow I suspect you'll still be here as long as he has doing the same blahblah get off my lawn keep the noise down meanie Christian y'all ain't so special.

Mwetneck and LNF’dinthehead are doing what the brilliant Skunk Anansie talked about over a decade ago.

SELLING JESUS

It’s what their conditioning and programming teaches them to do…

Try to replicate.

Like a virus.

Or a disease.

”That kind of god is always man-made. They made him up then wrote a book to keep you on your knees”
-Deborah Anne Dyer (aka: Skin) of Skunk Anansie

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Posted by Mwett on 5/3/2023 4:35:00 PM (view original):
Debbie Downer Bob. So mad. When have I ever tried to change anyone's mind ? To my recollection, never ago ? I have a story to tell. It's similar enough to others. It might not be your story and that's fine. But I don't understand the animosity toward mine. I have nothing bad against bears and trees and piece-pipes. But when my God/Jesus is attacked, I'll be there. If you're not up for it, don't engage. In other words, STFU or you get what you get. The only difference between you and fake arse whinely is he's been doing it here twice as long. Somehow I suspect you'll still be here as long as he has doing the same blahblah get off my lawn keep the noise down meanie Christian y'all ain't so special.

when have I ever attacked Jesus, or Christianity, unless, of course, you think I am attacking him because I don't quite believe he was the son of God. You probably do consider that attacking him, I guess. As far as " If you're not up for it, don't engage. " does that mean blocking someone because they don't agree with them?

Fake arse whinely?? Very clever. As I mentioned and Bob mentioned, you don't know anyone here. For all you know, I could be a 10 year old black kid from Houston? Or a 70 year old redneck from Alabama. You know nothing about me. I know nothing about you, but based on what you post here, I don't think I am missing anything.

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I am ok with Wylie here. He is who he is. He drives me a bit nuts, but that's part of the fun

That said, I was puzzled that he didn't see anything kind of almost impossible: the 3:16 Post season game with T bow. That's his deal. The world and it's godless system work together to blind them who are not saved, so that they will not hear the Gospel. All I can do is speak it.

And Wylie even admits he like to push my buttons.. Like me when I was a kid, I took the garden hose to my Grandad's chickens, and watched them ugly cluckers go crazy for a bit. You would have liked seeing it, Wylie. 70 years ago now. Amazing how time flies. Grand dad had a cure for mischief makers.. Seems like yesterday I spent the afternoon shovelling stinky stuff out of that chicken coop. Grand dad had 500 of the little cluckers. He died in 1957 on New Year's Eve. I was at his bedside.

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Posted by rsp777 on 5/3/2023 7:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Mwett on 5/3/2023 4:35:00 PM (view original):
Debbie Downer Bob. So mad. When have I ever tried to change anyone's mind ? To my recollection, never ago ? I have a story to tell. It's similar enough to others. It might not be your story and that's fine. But I don't understand the animosity toward mine. I have nothing bad against bears and trees and piece-pipes. But when my God/Jesus is attacked, I'll be there. If you're not up for it, don't engage. In other words, STFU or you get what you get. The only difference between you and fake arse whinely is he's been doing it here twice as long. Somehow I suspect you'll still be here as long as he has doing the same blahblah get off my lawn keep the noise down meanie Christian y'all ain't so special.
Mwetneck and LNF’dinthehead are doing what the brilliant Skunk Anansie talked about over a decade ago.

SELLING JESUS

It’s what their conditioning and programming teaches them to do…

Try to replicate.

Like a virus.

Or a disease.

”That kind of god is always man-made. They made him up then wrote a book to keep you on your knees”
-Deborah Anne Dyer (aka: Skin) of Skunk Anansie

Tell us about the guy who wrote that book. I will. He was not a believer. he is a God hater, like Marx, and the rest of the extreme left.. ok.. it is not good to make this about left right..

This verse says something to you though.
It reads like this:

"And be not conformed to this world. But be ye transformed, by the renewing of your mind"

The 'world' and it's system have programmed you. The whole world system is conspired to keep you from knowing God, and that's because the god of this world is satan

so who is brainwashed?

Romans Ch one describes why man is fallen, and why we are so messed up today.

If you don't mind, I will copy some of it here, and it is about how the mind gets twisted. I see this twisting every time I hear someone like Lizzie Warren spewing hatred against anything that is righteous

Here ya go:

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;”

The italicized is everywhere I look, so it seems. they call evil good, and good as though it were evil

and now some more

“.... when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

“And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.”

imo this describes Pagaanism, and Shamanism which is embedded in much of today's philosophies

God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves , in other words, he ceased to strive with them

Here s the result:

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient

and some of them got into politics, and become state governors, and etc

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature

and imo this describes the lbgtq , among other groups.

This little series is focusing on the fact that we (you) are lost, and have been lied to and deceived. I say that not to shame you, but because there might come a time when you are reflecting on the meaning of life and how come things are so crazy today.

The good news is that Jesus Christ said, 'Whoever cometh unto me, I will in no ways cast out' ..YOU can be saved

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Yeah! We're "winning"! LOL
ROLL TIDE

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We're basically Biden's approval rating.

C'mon! We can do a lot better.

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proud boys guilty

hang em

shoot em

nail em to a cross

if they're so damn good let em resurrect

eff em

let em burn

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Today is May the 4th.

May the fourth be with you.

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tomorrow is the 5th

may the fifth always be with me

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An Old Crow.

huh

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Posted by Lennybruce26 on 5/4/2023 9:09:00 PM (view original):
I find all of the rigid thinking about religion very irritating. I am not suggesting any interpretation of the following but this is informative :

World Population - 8 Billion approx.

Christianity - approximately 2.4 billion.
Islam - 2.1 billion
Buddhism - approximately 500 million.
Hinduism - approx 1.1 billion.
Atheists/ Agnostics/ Unafilliated - approximately 1.1 Billion
Judaism- 16 million
Tao - 8.7 million
Shinto - 100 million ( only 3 million true believers - the rest are Shinto by tradition without any real affiliation to any religious belief ).
African Traditional Religion - 300 million
Pagans, Wika - 1 million in USA
Norse Mythology - 1000-5,000.

I find the diversity interesting and it is interesting as to how persuasive the religions are with none more then 30%. The number of atheists and agnostics and unaffiliated are about 12%.

Lennyb, those numbers are way off re: Christians. for eg:

In Canada, I would estimate that less than a half a million are true believers, who follow Christ, and attempt to share Christ with others who do not know him. They study God's word, at least to the extent that they view the world from a Biblical perspective, rather than a secular one. I would be surprised if there are 400,000 in the whole country.

In all likelihood, there are perhaps half a billion in the world, who believe in the God of the Bible, but not to the extent that it influences their lives, except on a small scale.

2.4 billion Christians in the world? Can't be, my own guesstimate is 5 percent of the pop. That makes that about 400 million (I am being generous here). The US of A has perhaps 20 million, China has an estimated 160 million of them, and they are persecuted mercilessly. That said, I agree pretty well with the rest of the numbers.

Kudos to you for getting the info, though

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Hey Dino. Just a small correction if I may. I refer to the above post assigning the classification of Christian to Jehovahs Witness and Mormons. They are not Christian. I would refer you to the First Council of Nicaea where the beliefs of Christianity were put into writing. This document holds forth the existence of the Trinity. The two aforementioned cults deny the Trinity nor do they adhere to the Holy scripture. Just thought I should mention it. Carry on.

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That list is a list of how people self identified.

I think discussing the nuances of which groups are and which groups aren't "real Christians" is optically bad.

To a non-believer, it looks an awful lot like Muslim extremists who declare this one or that one isn't "Muslim enough" and are therefore classified as infidels in their sight.

Again, to the secular person it is batshit crazy to argue "a group of folks from over 1000 years ago & who considered themselves "real Christians" made some rules about what they found to be doctrinally important if others were to be considered as "real" as them".

I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, because I agree that both stray pretty far from the rest of Christian denominations, but to outsiders it looks eerily similar to extremism.

Also, if we're being completely honest, as disconnected from scripture as the LDS seems to be, no other denomination even comes close to matching the outreach and dedication to service towards non-believers.

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