Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 12:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/6/2018 10:54:00 PM (view original):
Think about it. Your last presidential candidate ran on the fact that she was a woman. If the dems weren't bigoted, she would have ran on her character,

Hillary didn't have a personality.

Did Obama run on him being black? I don't think so. Obama was running on policy and character and just happened to be black...

I don't see how this is specific to Dems though. Were Trump's comments on Hillary's health not gender-based? His comments that she would not be a strong leader and didn't look like a leader? The birther controversy wasn't race fueled? Obviously none of these things are OK, and what you pointed out is part of the reason why I wasn't fully onboard with Hillary. Again, I preferred Sanders, and if Kasich won the GOP I would have voted for him. If Carson or Rubio won, it would be closer.

Obama may not have ran on his skin color, but the Democratic Party made it very clear that they were running a black candidate. Using Trump as an example isn't going to carry much weight with me. I've made my feelings about him very clear.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 8:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 8:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/6/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):
You have systematic advantages over others because of your skin color. Thus you have more privilege because you are white.

I made the post because it warps your words out of context and takes it to the extreme. Which is the exact thing you do.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I don't see how saying that black people have systematic disadvantages is racist. It's more racist to say that black people fail because their culture is inferior.

I don't think black people fail. I think PEOPLE fail. Are you saying me being white gives me an advantage over someone who is Asian?

Y or N?

N

Oh, so black people fail at a higher rate because they, on average, are failures. Thanks for sharing.

They fail at a higher rate because 70% come from one parent households. I have told you this before. Are you ignoring my posts on purpose?

This is correct.

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 9:04:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 8:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 8:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/6/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):
You have systematic advantages over others because of your skin color. Thus you have more privilege because you are white.

I made the post because it warps your words out of context and takes it to the extreme. Which is the exact thing you do.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I don't see how saying that black people have systematic disadvantages is racist. It's more racist to say that black people fail because their culture is inferior.

I don't think black people fail. I think PEOPLE fail. Are you saying me being white gives me an advantage over someone who is Asian?

Y or N?

N

Oh, so black people fail at a higher rate because they, on average, are failures. Thanks for sharing.

They fail at a higher rate because 70% come from one parent households. I have told you this before. Are you ignoring my posts on purpose?

Lol. Says the guy who misuses my words. I am intentionally doing this.

So tell me why more black people come from single parent households.

Enlighten us. Go ahead and blame white man and the government.

I have explained this to tangplay but he cannot read or comprehend. Black kids from two parent households are significantly more successful than white kids from one parent households. Unfortunately 70% of black kids come from one parent households vs. 40% for white kids.

I have also told tangplay that if ALL people follow these three rules they will not be poor (98% will not be)

#1) Graduate High School
#2) Get a job
#3) Don't become a single parent

The Gov't should be SCREAMING this to every parent and child from pre school on. Forget the race baiting.




A huge one is Two-Parent Privilege. If you are raised by a father and mother, you enter adulthood with more privileges than anyone else in American society, irrespective of race, ethnicity, or sex. That’s why the poverty rate among two-parent black families is only 7%.

So then why all this left-wing talk about white privilege?

The major reason is in order to portray blacks as victims. This achieves two huge goals for the Left — one political, the other philosophical.

The political goal is to ensure that blacks continue to view America as racist. The Left knows that the only way to retain political power in America is to perpetuate the belief among black Americans that their primary problem is white racism. Only then will blacks continue to regard the Left and the Democrats as indispensable.



The philosophical reason is that the Left denies — as it has since Marx — the primacy of moral and cultural values in determining the fate of the individual and of society. In the Left’s view, it is not poor values or a lack of moral self-control that causes crime, but poverty and, in the case of black criminals, racism. Therefore, the disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by black males is not attributable to the moral failure of the black criminal or to the likelihood of his not having been raised by a father, but to an external factor over which he has little or no power — white racism.

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 9:04:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 8:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 8:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/6/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):
You have systematic advantages over others because of your skin color. Thus you have more privilege because you are white.

I made the post because it warps your words out of context and takes it to the extreme. Which is the exact thing you do.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I don't see how saying that black people have systematic disadvantages is racist. It's more racist to say that black people fail because their culture is inferior.

I don't think black people fail. I think PEOPLE fail. Are you saying me being white gives me an advantage over someone who is Asian?

Y or N?

N

Oh, so black people fail at a higher rate because they, on average, are failures. Thanks for sharing.

They fail at a higher rate because 70% come from one parent households. I have told you this before. Are you ignoring my posts on purpose?

Lol. Says the guy who misuses my words. I am intentionally doing this.

So tell me why more black people come from single parent households.

#1) Lack of education
#2) Lack of contraception
#3) Gov't gives free $$ to single parents

This is for ALL people. In terms of the African American community it is culture based. Kids see their parents doing it so they do it too and the cycle continues. Several do break it. The key is to educate the kids to break it. Graduate HS, get a job and don't be a single parent. My kids are in middle school and the school system does not preach that mantra and they don't discuss contraception or sex education. It is taboo. Heck it is taboo to ask what gender a kid is these days.

So it is up to the parents but when you only have one they cannot be a parent and a provider and an educator so the cycle continues. It is at 40% with white kids so it is a problem for all colors. The reason that Jews and Asian Americans are so much more successful is because generally these kids come from two parent households.

We need to do more to perpetuate the two parent household vs. fighting over racism and prejudice. Period. If you cannot see that, tangplay, they you are either blind or just a terrible person. Or both.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/7/2018 9:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 12:27:00 AM (view original):
Do you think God created us to live in a post-racial society? Post-gender? And if so, why is LGBT such a hot-button issue for you?

The LGBT thing is not a hot button issue with me. It's not my place to judge people.

Fair enough.

On that note in every Islamic country the LGBTs either get killed, ridiculed or both. Coincidence?

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/7/2018 9:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 12:20:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 10:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/6/2018 9:51:00 PM (view original):
By the way, While the majority of the Democratic Party is very racist and bigoted, I know that you and your father aren't. You guys truly want to help people. I think the fact that you focus so much on race is wrong and we disagree on how to help the poor, but I know your heart is in the right place.

I disagree that the majority of Democrats are racist and bigoted. Either way, thank you for saying that. I truly do want to do my best to make the world better. I believe that you do too.

They are. They break down everyone into groups instead of just seeing people for their character. Listen to their comments. I'll post a few examples in a second.

MLK wanted people to be judged by their character, not their physical traits. Democrats see people as black/white, gay/straight, male/female. They can't see past these traits.

I think it's not nessesarily a bad thing to see people by their traits partially. Not to discriminate, but the whole post-racial thing opens up a whole new can of worms and is really not beneficial.

This post proves my point that the left's mindset is racist. When you're talking about whether an individual is a success or failure, their traits should not be considered.

Yeah, but that's not how society actually is today. Let's say that institutional racism exists. Is it more racist to say, "Let's fix the problem" or to say "Everyone is equal."

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/7/2018 9:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 12:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/6/2018 10:54:00 PM (view original):
Think about it. Your last presidential candidate ran on the fact that she was a woman. If the dems weren't bigoted, she would have ran on her character,

Hillary didn't have a personality.

Did Obama run on him being black? I don't think so. Obama was running on policy and character and just happened to be black...

I don't see how this is specific to Dems though. Were Trump's comments on Hillary's health not gender-based? His comments that she would not be a strong leader and didn't look like a leader? The birther controversy wasn't race fueled? Obviously none of these things are OK, and what you pointed out is part of the reason why I wasn't fully onboard with Hillary. Again, I preferred Sanders, and if Kasich won the GOP I would have voted for him. If Carson or Rubio won, it would be closer.

Obama may not have ran on his skin color, but the Democratic Party made it very clear that they were running a black candidate. Using Trump as an example isn't going to carry much weight with me. I've made my feelings about him very clear.

You brought up Clinton, who I don't like. I am not calling out your hypocrisy, strikeout. I am saying that if the Dems are racist for running as a woman, Reps are racist for running as a man.

It is a hypothetical. Not everyone believes that institutional racism exists. IF it did exist we would need to fix the problem 100%. But IF the problem doesn't exist and you insist that it does it makes you, the accuser, the actual racist.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 10:08:00 AM (view original):
I have explained this to tangplay but he cannot read or comprehend. Black kids from two parent households are significantly more successful than white kids from one parent households. Unfortunately 70% of black kids come from one parent households vs. 40% for white kids.

I have also told tangplay that if ALL people follow these three rules they will not be poor (98% will not be)

#1) Graduate High School
#2) Get a job
#3) Don't become a single parent

The Gov't should be SCREAMING this to every parent and child from pre school on. Forget the race baiting.




A huge one is Two-Parent Privilege. If you are raised by a father and mother, you enter adulthood with more privileges than anyone else in American society, irrespective of race, ethnicity, or sex. That’s why the poverty rate among two-parent black families is only 7%.

So then why all this left-wing talk about white privilege?

The major reason is in order to portray blacks as victims. This achieves two huge goals for the Left — one political, the other philosophical.

The political goal is to ensure that blacks continue to view America as racist. The Left knows that the only way to retain political power in America is to perpetuate the belief among black Americans that their primary problem is white racism. Only then will blacks continue to regard the Left and the Democrats as indispensable.



The philosophical reason is that the Left denies — as it has since Marx — the primacy of moral and cultural values in determining the fate of the individual and of society. In the Left’s view, it is not poor values or a lack of moral self-control that causes crime, but poverty and, in the case of black criminals, racism. Therefore, the disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by black males is not attributable to the moral failure of the black criminal or to the likelihood of his not having been raised by a father, but to an external factor over which he has little or no power — white racism.

Well copied/pasted.

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 10:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/7/2018 9:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 12:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/6/2018 10:54:00 PM (view original):
Think about it. Your last presidential candidate ran on the fact that she was a woman. If the dems weren't bigoted, she would have ran on her character,

Hillary didn't have a personality.

Did Obama run on him being black? I don't think so. Obama was running on policy and character and just happened to be black...

I don't see how this is specific to Dems though. Were Trump's comments on Hillary's health not gender-based? His comments that she would not be a strong leader and didn't look like a leader? The birther controversy wasn't race fueled? Obviously none of these things are OK, and what you pointed out is part of the reason why I wasn't fully onboard with Hillary. Again, I preferred Sanders, and if Kasich won the GOP I would have voted for him. If Carson or Rubio won, it would be closer.

Obama may not have ran on his skin color, but the Democratic Party made it very clear that they were running a black candidate. Using Trump as an example isn't going to carry much weight with me. I've made my feelings about him very clear.

You brought up Clinton, who I don't like. I am not calling out your hypocrisy, strikeout. I am saying that if the Dems are racist for running as a woman, Reps are racist for running as a man.

GOP has more logical people in the party vs. the Dems

Rubio, Kasich, Christie, Duffy, etc.

Dems have..um...well...um...

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 10:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 10:08:00 AM (view original):
I have explained this to tangplay but he cannot read or comprehend. Black kids from two parent households are significantly more successful than white kids from one parent households. Unfortunately 70% of black kids come from one parent households vs. 40% for white kids.

I have also told tangplay that if ALL people follow these three rules they will not be poor (98% will not be)

#1) Graduate High School
#2) Get a job
#3) Don't become a single parent

The Gov't should be SCREAMING this to every parent and child from pre school on. Forget the race baiting.




A huge one is Two-Parent Privilege. If you are raised by a father and mother, you enter adulthood with more privileges than anyone else in American society, irrespective of race, ethnicity, or sex. That’s why the poverty rate among two-parent black families is only 7%.

So then why all this left-wing talk about white privilege?

The major reason is in order to portray blacks as victims. This achieves two huge goals for the Left — one political, the other philosophical.

The political goal is to ensure that blacks continue to view America as racist. The Left knows that the only way to retain political power in America is to perpetuate the belief among black Americans that their primary problem is white racism. Only then will blacks continue to regard the Left and the Democrats as indispensable.



The philosophical reason is that the Left denies — as it has since Marx — the primacy of moral and cultural values in determining the fate of the individual and of society. In the Left’s view, it is not poor values or a lack of moral self-control that causes crime, but poverty and, in the case of black criminals, racism. Therefore, the disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by black males is not attributable to the moral failure of the black criminal or to the likelihood of his not having been raised by a father, but to an external factor over which he has little or no power — white racism.

Well copied/pasted.

Only the 2nd half. Facts don't care about your feelings. Do you disagree with any of it? If so why?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 10:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/7/2018 9:04:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/6/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/6/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):
You have systematic advantages over others because of your skin color. Thus you have more privilege because you are white.

I made the post because it warps your words out of context and takes it to the extreme. Which is the exact thing you do.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I don't see how saying that black people have systematic disadvantages is racist. It's more racist to say that black people fail because their culture is inferior.

I don't think black people fail. I think PEOPLE fail. Are you saying me being white gives me an advantage over someone who is Asian?

Y or N?

N

Oh, so black people fail at a higher rate because they, on average, are failures. Thanks for sharing.

They fail at a higher rate because 70% come from one parent households. I have told you this before. Are you ignoring my posts on purpose?

Lol. Says the guy who misuses my words. I am intentionally doing this.

So tell me why more black people come from single parent households.

#1) Lack of education
#2) Lack of contraception
#3) Gov't gives free $$ to single parents

This is for ALL people. In terms of the African American community it is culture based. Kids see their parents doing it so they do it too and the cycle continues. Several do break it. The key is to educate the kids to break it. Graduate HS, get a job and don't be a single parent. My kids are in middle school and the school system does not preach that mantra and they don't discuss contraception or sex education. It is taboo. Heck it is taboo to ask what gender a kid is these days.

So it is up to the parents but when you only have one they cannot be a parent and a provider and an educator so the cycle continues. It is at 40% with white kids so it is a problem for all colors. The reason that Jews and Asian Americans are so much more successful is because generally these kids come from two parent households.

We need to do more to perpetuate the two parent household vs. fighting over racism and prejudice. Period. If you cannot see that, tangplay, they you are either blind or just a terrible person. Or both.

I 100% agree with you that this is a major problem. However, you dodged the question. You have stated repeatedly that the reason for the divides between white and black people is the two-parent problem. I asked why black people have higher rates of single parenthood. I want you to explain that to me. There is a 30% difference between races.

Q: Why do black people have a 70% rate of single parenthood, while white people are at 40%?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/7/2018 10:25:00 AM (view original):
On that note in every Islamic country the LGBTs either get killed, ridiculed or both. Coincidence?

No.