Savage II Commentary Thread Topic

I had you top 5 ben. that's the biggest surprise for me. and I had jcred top 10 also.
LTB is the biggest surprise to the positive, I had him in the middle of the pack. Certainly the biggest turnaround since last season.
9/30/2020 7:31 AM
Posted by pexetera on 9/30/2020 7:31:00 AM (view original):
I had you top 5 ben. that's the biggest surprise for me. and I had jcred top 10 also.
LTB is the biggest surprise to the positive, I had him in the middle of the pack. Certainly the biggest turnaround since last season.
If my world one team was playing anywhere close to its point differential, I’d be getting that 20 point boost and I’d be in third place with 5 playoff teams. Still have an outside shot at it.

I think my team is slightly better than it’s record so far. Really though, it’s on par with my team from last season and everyone else improved.
9/30/2020 7:54 AM
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas

it does seem like there was a lot of improvement over last season.
9/30/2020 8:39 AM (edited)
Row Labels Sum of Wins Max of Wins Min of Wins Sum of L50 Wins Sum of L50 Losses Sum of DivisionLead
pexetera 209 46 39 33 17 4
dBKC 200 47 30 36 14 1
bds9992 189 46 28 31 19 2
dh555 188 42 31 29 21 3
24kpyrite 187 47 31 29 21 1
mptrey 182 38 35 28 22 0
longtallbrad 182 40 26 25 25 2
gerryred 176 39 31 23 27 0
ashamael 174 41 31 27 23 0
pharrop 171 39 28 23 27 1
tarheel1991 171 41 28 22 28 1
benhoidal 170 37 32 28 22 0
20ks 160 37 28 22 28 1
mikee1 160 43 26 26 24 1
robusk 159 38 21 27 23 0
cmcafeeky 158 35 25 23 27 1
amerk1180 155 36 25 26 24 1
dskantor 151 38 22 22 28 2
jcred5 147 42 23 22 28 1
goetz93 143 33 22 25 25 0
jhsukow 134 36 19 24 26 0
ysw128 128 32 13 15 35 0
jpevans31 109 26 16 20 30 0
albiband0 97 30 11 14 36 0
9/30/2020 12:04 PM
Row Labels Avg PyWins Avg Dreb% Avg Oreb% Avg Creb% Avg Ast/G Avg TS% Avg Opp TS% Avg eFG% Avg Opp eFG% Avg TS% Diff Avg F/G Avg TO%
pexetera 41.9 71.1% 28.0% 99.0% 32.6 56.1% 55.4% 52.6% 52.3% 0.6% 18.6 14.2%
dBKC 40.2 69.4% 27.8% 97.2% 30.5 56.2% 54.9% 53.1% 51.1% 1.3% 20.6 15.7%
gerryred 38.7 67.7% 27.9% 95.6% 33.4 57.1% 56.1% 54.3% 53.1% 1.0% 17.4 14.8%
mptrey 37.7 68.9% 21.7% 90.5% 33.7 57.5% 56.5% 53.7% 53.6% 1.0% 18.4 13.3%
dh555 37.2 69.3% 26.7% 96.0% 32.9 55.9% 55.7% 52.5% 52.7% 0.3% 18.4 14.7%
bds9992 37.1 68.5% 22.4% 90.9% 33.2 57.3% 55.1% 54.4% 51.8% 2.2% 18.1 14.8%
longtallbrad 35.9 69.5% 23.8% 93.3% 33.1 57.4% 55.6% 54.4% 52.4% 1.8% 18.4 15.4%
24kpyrite 35.4 67.8% 23.2% 91.0% 33.9 57.4% 56.3% 54.7% 53.0% 1.1% 19.4 13.8%
benhoidal 34.3 67.6% 23.5% 91.1% 32.9 57.4% 55.6% 54.2% 52.1% 1.8% 19.9 15.8%
tarheel1991 34.2 69.2% 24.5% 93.6% 33.0 55.9% 56.2% 52.4% 53.1% -0.2% 18.3 14.0%
ashamael 34.0 70.1% 27.2% 97.3% 32.6 56.5% 56.2% 53.6% 52.8% 0.3% 19.7 15.7%
pharrop 33.7 68.8% 21.8% 90.6% 33.5 57.2% 56.1% 54.0% 52.8% 1.1% 19.2 14.5%
mikee1 32.7 69.1% 27.5% 96.6% 33.4 55.6% 56.3% 52.0% 53.2% -0.7% 18.4 14.7%
cmcafeeky 32.7 69.1% 25.0% 94.1% 31.6 55.5% 55.4% 51.9% 51.9% 0.1% 18.9 15.2%
amerk1180 31.8 67.7% 25.8% 93.5% 32.3 54.8% 56.1% 51.6% 52.8% -1.3% 19.2 14.5%
20ks 31.0 67.6% 22.0% 89.6% 33.4 56.1% 56.1% 52.5% 52.9% 0.0% 18.8 14.3%
jcred5 29.5 70.6% 26.9% 97.5% 32.1 53.6% 55.5% 50.8% 52.3% -1.8% 18.6 15.0%
dskantor 29.3 66.9% 22.2% 89.1% 34.6 56.8% 56.7% 53.4% 53.7% 0.1% 18.5 13.9%
robusk 28.8 67.7% 25.4% 93.2% 34.7 56.9% 57.2% 53.5% 53.9% -0.3% 19.8 15.8%
goetz93 28.6 69.5% 25.2% 94.7% 34.3 57.8% 57.2% 54.8% 54.3% 0.6% 19.1 17.0%
jhsukow 27.4 69.7% 24.8% 94.5% 33.7 55.9% 57.5% 53.1% 54.2% -1.6% 19.3 15.5%
ysw128 25.0 66.8% 25.9% 92.7% 33.0 55.6% 56.7% 52.4% 53.3% -1.1% 20.0 15.7%
jpevans31 23.2 68.9% 26.0% 94.9% 32.7 54.2% 57.1% 51.4% 53.7% -2.9% 19.8 15.6%
albiband0 19.6 67.4% 25.8% 93.2% 32.3 54.7% 58.4% 51.3% 55.4% -3.7% 17.8 14.6%
9/30/2020 1:50 PM (edited)
I made that a refreshable query so I should be able to provide regular updates on it. Unfortunately WiS doesn't post minutes in the team rankings and I am not spending hours writing out team by team queries, so you get Ast/G instead of AST%.
9/30/2020 1:44 PM
Lowest APG in the league and 2nd best CRB% in the league is not what I expected from a team running Steph at SG with some passers in the frontcourt. Interesting.

thanks for putting this together.
9/30/2020 1:44 PM
My offense is apparently very good as my teams shoot slightly above average and lead the the worlds in assists. But average rebounding and below average defense, combined with really problematic fouls and turnovers looks to be my undoing.
10/1/2020 1:52 AM (edited)
Edited to add fouls and turnover%.
9/30/2020 1:51 PM
pex showing that, for the regular season at least, defense and rebounding are king.
9/30/2020 1:54 PM
I updated the shared file to expose the stats table. I think it might have changed the link so use this one: https://1drv.ms/x/s!Ald3PE_Y7GFNgYJB8i3bjtBlxHkLPQ?e=MQvwfj
10/1/2020 12:16 PM (edited)
I have been getting a lot more sleep and thus banging out my work quicker, which has allowed me more time to screw around here. Hence all the random output today.
9/30/2020 5:49 PM
Posted by robusk on 9/30/2020 1:50:00 PM (view original):
Row Labels Avg PyWins Avg Dreb% Avg Oreb% Avg Creb% Avg Ast/G Avg TS% Avg Opp TS% Avg eFG% Avg Opp eFG% Avg TS% Diff Avg F/G Avg TO%
pexetera 41.9 71.1% 28.0% 99.0% 32.6 56.1% 55.4% 52.6% 52.3% 0.6% 18.6 14.2%
dBKC 40.2 69.4% 27.8% 97.2% 30.5 56.2% 54.9% 53.1% 51.1% 1.3% 20.6 15.7%
gerryred 38.7 67.7% 27.9% 95.6% 33.4 57.1% 56.1% 54.3% 53.1% 1.0% 17.4 14.8%
mptrey 37.7 68.9% 21.7% 90.5% 33.7 57.5% 56.5% 53.7% 53.6% 1.0% 18.4 13.3%
dh555 37.2 69.3% 26.7% 96.0% 32.9 55.9% 55.7% 52.5% 52.7% 0.3% 18.4 14.7%
bds9992 37.1 68.5% 22.4% 90.9% 33.2 57.3% 55.1% 54.4% 51.8% 2.2% 18.1 14.8%
longtallbrad 35.9 69.5% 23.8% 93.3% 33.1 57.4% 55.6% 54.4% 52.4% 1.8% 18.4 15.4%
24kpyrite 35.4 67.8% 23.2% 91.0% 33.9 57.4% 56.3% 54.7% 53.0% 1.1% 19.4 13.8%
benhoidal 34.3 67.6% 23.5% 91.1% 32.9 57.4% 55.6% 54.2% 52.1% 1.8% 19.9 15.8%
tarheel1991 34.2 69.2% 24.5% 93.6% 33.0 55.9% 56.2% 52.4% 53.1% -0.2% 18.3 14.0%
ashamael 34.0 70.1% 27.2% 97.3% 32.6 56.5% 56.2% 53.6% 52.8% 0.3% 19.7 15.7%
pharrop 33.7 68.8% 21.8% 90.6% 33.5 57.2% 56.1% 54.0% 52.8% 1.1% 19.2 14.5%
mikee1 32.7 69.1% 27.5% 96.6% 33.4 55.6% 56.3% 52.0% 53.2% -0.7% 18.4 14.7%
cmcafeeky 32.7 69.1% 25.0% 94.1% 31.6 55.5% 55.4% 51.9% 51.9% 0.1% 18.9 15.2%
amerk1180 31.8 67.7% 25.8% 93.5% 32.3 54.8% 56.1% 51.6% 52.8% -1.3% 19.2 14.5%
20ks 31.0 67.6% 22.0% 89.6% 33.4 56.1% 56.1% 52.5% 52.9% 0.0% 18.8 14.3%
jcred5 29.5 70.6% 26.9% 97.5% 32.1 53.6% 55.5% 50.8% 52.3% -1.8% 18.6 15.0%
dskantor 29.3 66.9% 22.2% 89.1% 34.6 56.8% 56.7% 53.4% 53.7% 0.1% 18.5 13.9%
robusk 28.8 67.7% 25.4% 93.2% 34.7 56.9% 57.2% 53.5% 53.9% -0.3% 19.8 15.8%
goetz93 28.6 69.5% 25.2% 94.7% 34.3 57.8% 57.2% 54.8% 54.3% 0.6% 19.1 17.0%
jhsukow 27.4 69.7% 24.8% 94.5% 33.7 55.9% 57.5% 53.1% 54.2% -1.6% 19.3 15.5%
ysw128 25.0 66.8% 25.9% 92.7% 33.0 55.6% 56.7% 52.4% 53.3% -1.1% 20.0 15.7%
jpevans31 23.2 68.9% 26.0% 94.9% 32.7 54.2% 57.1% 51.4% 53.7% -2.9% 19.8 15.6%
albiband0 19.6 67.4% 25.8% 93.2% 32.3 54.7% 58.4% 51.3% 55.4% -3.7% 17.8 14.6%
Interesting, robusk. These statistics say my teams are pretty damn sucky, but by record my teams are of a higher magnitude of sucktivity. Interesting how #s don't often tell the whole story...
9/30/2020 6:06 PM
Posted by jpevans31 on 9/30/2020 6:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 9/30/2020 1:50:00 PM (view original):
Row Labels Avg PyWins Avg Dreb% Avg Oreb% Avg Creb% Avg Ast/G Avg TS% Avg Opp TS% Avg eFG% Avg Opp eFG% Avg TS% Diff Avg F/G Avg TO%
pexetera 41.9 71.1% 28.0% 99.0% 32.6 56.1% 55.4% 52.6% 52.3% 0.6% 18.6 14.2%
dBKC 40.2 69.4% 27.8% 97.2% 30.5 56.2% 54.9% 53.1% 51.1% 1.3% 20.6 15.7%
gerryred 38.7 67.7% 27.9% 95.6% 33.4 57.1% 56.1% 54.3% 53.1% 1.0% 17.4 14.8%
mptrey 37.7 68.9% 21.7% 90.5% 33.7 57.5% 56.5% 53.7% 53.6% 1.0% 18.4 13.3%
dh555 37.2 69.3% 26.7% 96.0% 32.9 55.9% 55.7% 52.5% 52.7% 0.3% 18.4 14.7%
bds9992 37.1 68.5% 22.4% 90.9% 33.2 57.3% 55.1% 54.4% 51.8% 2.2% 18.1 14.8%
longtallbrad 35.9 69.5% 23.8% 93.3% 33.1 57.4% 55.6% 54.4% 52.4% 1.8% 18.4 15.4%
24kpyrite 35.4 67.8% 23.2% 91.0% 33.9 57.4% 56.3% 54.7% 53.0% 1.1% 19.4 13.8%
benhoidal 34.3 67.6% 23.5% 91.1% 32.9 57.4% 55.6% 54.2% 52.1% 1.8% 19.9 15.8%
tarheel1991 34.2 69.2% 24.5% 93.6% 33.0 55.9% 56.2% 52.4% 53.1% -0.2% 18.3 14.0%
ashamael 34.0 70.1% 27.2% 97.3% 32.6 56.5% 56.2% 53.6% 52.8% 0.3% 19.7 15.7%
pharrop 33.7 68.8% 21.8% 90.6% 33.5 57.2% 56.1% 54.0% 52.8% 1.1% 19.2 14.5%
mikee1 32.7 69.1% 27.5% 96.6% 33.4 55.6% 56.3% 52.0% 53.2% -0.7% 18.4 14.7%
cmcafeeky 32.7 69.1% 25.0% 94.1% 31.6 55.5% 55.4% 51.9% 51.9% 0.1% 18.9 15.2%
amerk1180 31.8 67.7% 25.8% 93.5% 32.3 54.8% 56.1% 51.6% 52.8% -1.3% 19.2 14.5%
20ks 31.0 67.6% 22.0% 89.6% 33.4 56.1% 56.1% 52.5% 52.9% 0.0% 18.8 14.3%
jcred5 29.5 70.6% 26.9% 97.5% 32.1 53.6% 55.5% 50.8% 52.3% -1.8% 18.6 15.0%
dskantor 29.3 66.9% 22.2% 89.1% 34.6 56.8% 56.7% 53.4% 53.7% 0.1% 18.5 13.9%
robusk 28.8 67.7% 25.4% 93.2% 34.7 56.9% 57.2% 53.5% 53.9% -0.3% 19.8 15.8%
goetz93 28.6 69.5% 25.2% 94.7% 34.3 57.8% 57.2% 54.8% 54.3% 0.6% 19.1 17.0%
jhsukow 27.4 69.7% 24.8% 94.5% 33.7 55.9% 57.5% 53.1% 54.2% -1.6% 19.3 15.5%
ysw128 25.0 66.8% 25.9% 92.7% 33.0 55.6% 56.7% 52.4% 53.3% -1.1% 20.0 15.7%
jpevans31 23.2 68.9% 26.0% 94.9% 32.7 54.2% 57.1% 51.4% 53.7% -2.9% 19.8 15.6%
albiband0 19.6 67.4% 25.8% 93.2% 32.3 54.7% 58.4% 51.3% 55.4% -3.7% 17.8 14.6%
Interesting, robusk. These statistics say my teams are pretty damn sucky, but by record my teams are of a higher magnitude of sucktivity. Interesting how #s don't often tell the whole story...
I think these numbers pretty accurately tell the story:

The maximum ts% difference is +2.2% and the minimum is -3.7%.
Maximum crb is 99; minimum is 89.1
Best tov% is 13.3; worst is 17
least fouls is 17.4; most is 20.6

(I eyeballed those numbers, so I might have missed one somewhere. If I did, I apologize)

I'm not going to bother to run the requisite calculations, but the standard deviation in each of those categories has to be extremely small. Thus, in a simulation designed on controlled randomness, it's not surprising that the deviation of wins is also really small (with a few outliers in either direction).

Thus: the Clog.
9/30/2020 8:05 PM
Don't get me wrong, numbers/statistics are great indicators, giving a good overall feeling of the league. I was mainly making a joke about how craptastic my teams ended up... We're not even in The Clog, Ash! We're not even that good... We're not even :'( ... in The Clog :''(...
9/30/2020 8:28 PM
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