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Quote: Originally Posted By whiteshadow on 8/07/2007

So much for 'wrangling.' I hope you lose by fifty, just because of your huge effing mouth...

always a pleasure, shadow. You're a prince among men.

For the record, the Big 12 is the 5th ranked conference via RPI. The Ivy League is ranked 11th.

East Standings

School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
#9 Fordham	colorblind79	14-2	30-3	10-2	13-1	3-0	10-0	W10	6	68
Cornell	aat17068	12-4	18-10	9-4	9-4	0-0	5-5	L5	86	159
Columbia	Sim AI	11-5	17-13	8-5	7-6	0-0	6-4	L1	84	77
Boston U.	schultz11	10-6	11-16	4-9	7-6	0-2	6-4	L1	140	42
Princeton	Sim AI	9-7	16-12	10-3	6-7	0-1	6-4	L2	78	70
Brown	Sim AI	7-9	14-15	5-5	7-9	0-1	5-5	L1	160	174

West Standings

School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
Pennsylvania	zamiam	12-4	22-9	10-3	9-4	2-3	7-3	L1	42	99
Bucknell	Sim AI	6-10	12-16	8-4	3-11	0-2	3-7	L1	191	150
Yale	whiteshadow	5-11	12-16	7-8	4-7	0-2	4-6	L1	188	126
Harvard	Sim AI	5-11	10-17	4-7	6-9	0-0	3-7	L1	234	201
Duquesne	Sim AI	3-13	11-17	5-7	5-9	1-0	2-8	L1	207	148
Dartmouth	bludluciano	2-14	6-21	4-11	2-9	0-0	2-8	L4	290	160

8/7/2007 12:59 PM

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Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 8/07/2007
Quote: Originally Posted By whiteshadow on 8/07/2007

So much for 'wrangling.' I hope you lose by fifty, just because of your huge effing mouth...
always a pleasure, shadow. You're a prince among men.
For the record, the Big 12 is the 5th ranked conference via RPI. The Ivy League is ranked 11th.
East Standings
School Coach Conf.
W-L Overall
W-L Home
W-L Road
W-L Top 25
W-L Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
#9 Fordham colorblind79 14-2 30-3 10-2 13-1 3-0 10-0 W10 6 68
Cornell aat17068 12-4 18-10 9-4 9-4 0-0 5-5 L5 86 159
Columbia Sim AI 11-5 17-13 8-5 7-6 0-0 6-4 L1 84 77
Boston U. schultz11 10-6 11-16 4-9 7-6 0-2 6-4 L1 140 42
Princeton Sim AI 9-7 16-12 10-3 6-7 0-1 6-4 L2 78 70
Brown Sim AI 7-9 14-15 5-5 7-9 0-1 5-5 L1 160 174
West Standings
School Coach Conf.
W-L Overall
W-L Home
W-L Road
W-L Top 25
W-L Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
Pennsylvania zamiam 12-4 22-9 10-3 9-4 2-3 7-3 L1 42 99
Bucknell Sim AI 6-10 12-16 8-4 3-11 0-2 3-7 L1 191 150
Yale whiteshadow 5-11 12-16 7-8 4-7 0-2 4-6 L1 188 126
Harvard Sim AI 5-11 10-17 4-7 6-9 0-0 3-7 L1 234 201
Duquesne Sim AI 3-13 11-17 5-7 5-9 1-0 2-8 L1 207 148
Dartmouth bludluciano 2-14 6-21 4-11 2-9 0-0 2-8 L4 290 160

You must work in Tax or Media Law.

To Wit:

Another arrogant display of self-importance...

8/7/2007 7:49 PM

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are you sure this isn't another truculent display of bitterness and jealousy by a mediocre coach who can't figure out the game, despite people like me laying out their entire methodology for anyone who chooses to look for it?

In response to your query, I'm in the process of becoming a prosecutor. Be glad being an @sshole or a failure isn't against the law, shadow, because they'd throw the book at you.

Season	Coach	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Neutral W-L	Conf W-L	RPI	Notes
21	whiteshadow	12-16	7-8	4-7	1-1	5-11	188
20	whiteshadow	10-17	6-10	4-6	0-1	6-10	224
19	whiteshadow	25-6	12-0	10-4	3-2	13-3	28	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
18	whiteshadow	12-16	6-5	5-10	1-1	6-10	220
17	whiteshadow	15-13	9-4	5-8	1-1	8-8	152
16	whiteshadow	18-11	8-4	9-5	1-2	11-5	69	Conf Champion PI (1st Round)
15	whiteshadow	23-8	14-0	6-6	3-2	12-4	26	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
14	whiteshadow	17-11	8-3	8-7	1-1	11-5	147
13	whiteshadow	20-10	10-3	8-5	2-2	12-4	62	Conf Champion PI (2nd Round)
12	whiteshadow	19-9	9-4	9-4	1-1	11-5	132	Conf Champion
11	whiteshadow	14-15	8-4	4-10	2-1	8-8	153
10	whiteshadow	17-15	8-5	5-8	4-2	7-9	66	PI (3rd Round)
9	whiteshadow	11-17	5-7	5-9	1-1	8-8	242
8	whiteshadow	7-22	3-8	2-13	2-1	4-12	313

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Every year you complain about how this game is nothing but chance. Just quit already, because obviously you have no desire to learn anything, either from my mistakes, your own, or anyone else's.

8/7/2007 11:12 PM

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I guess this is the arrogance and self-importance to which shadow refers:

Coaches Corner

Date	Coach	Message
08/07	colorblind79	this run just keeps getting harder to believe.
08/07	aat17068	They are the #1 RPI, but keep in mind, you have scored more and allowed less than Virginia. You both outrebound by 5 or so. I'm not sure how to best game plan for these guys and that might explain why I lost my last 5 of the season...
08/06	colorblind79	I'm playing one of the most talented teams I've seen, tonight. I don't think I stand much of a chance with this year's team, against them. Maybe 15% or so.
08/06	zamiam	Another great one...coming from 9 back. Keep it going!
08/05	colorblind79	ty. I doubt we'll be going much further in the NT, but it's been a great year. There is always, of course, the chance that we can continue our run...I'm just not going to count on it.
08/05	zamiam	At the buzzer! Nice job, cb.
08/04	colorblind79	I'll give it my best shot
08/04	zamiam	thanks, cb. beat vandy!
08/04	colorblind79	nice job, z
08/03	colorblind79	not a bad draw for you. Best of luck tonight.
08/03	zamiam	nice job, colorblind. and the good news is we're both in the NIT!
08/02	colorblind79	good luck tonight, zamiam

8/8/2007 1:06 AM

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no more surprises:

Kansas 33-1, 15-1

STARTERS	MIN	FGM-A	FGM3-A	FTM-A	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
Denny Burns, c	28	2-9	0-0	3-5	4	10	0	2	0	0	3	7
Randy Taylor, c	25	4-10	0-0	1-2	2	7	1	1	2	0	2	9
Jon Clark, sf	25	3-8	2-2	0-0	0	5	0	0	0	0	1	8
Walter Mena, sg	25	5-8	4-5	3-3	0	1	0	3	0	0	3	17
Chad Farfan, pg	24	1-2	0-1	0-0	1	2	2	3	0	0	1	2
BENCH	MIN	FGM-A	FGM3-A	FTM-A	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
Franklin Russell, sf	15	1-2	0-1	2-2	1	5	1	2	0	0	0	4
Michael Allen, pf	15	2-5	0-0	2-2	2	4	0	3	0	0	3	6
Kenneth Andress, sg	15	5-5	4-4	2-2	0	2	1	2	2	0	0	16
William Bowman, pg	13	0-1	0-0	2-2	1	1	2	1	0	0	0	2
Donald McCrone, c	12	0-2	0-0	1-2	1	2	0	2	0	0	4	1
Fred Mabie, pg	3	0-0	0-0	0-0	1	1	2	0	0	0	0	0
Totals	200	23-52	10-13	16-20	13	40	9	19	4	0	17	72
Percentages		.442	.769	.800

Fordham 30-4, 14-2

STARTERS	MIN	FGM-A	FGM3-A	FTM-A	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
Nathan Goines, c	28	2-6	0-0	3-4	0	6	1	1	2	4	3	7
Gregg Carroll, c	29	6-12	0-0	3-4	3	8	2	1	1	1	2	15
Robert Thompson, sf	23	6-10	1-1	0-0	2	4	1	1	0	0	2	13
Stacey Duke, sg	25	3-10	1-7	1-2	0	1	2	2	0	0	2	8
Laurence Fanelli, pg	25	2-5	2-3	2-2	0	1	3	3	2	0	4	8
BENCH	MIN	FGM-A	FGM3-A	FTM-A	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
David Palmer, sf	15	2-6	0-0	0-0	0	1	3	0	1	0	2	4
Jeremy Edelman, pg	15	0-4	0-2	0-0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0
John Jordan, sg	13	0-1	0-1	0-0	0	0	1	2	0	0	1	0
Taylor Carey, pf	9	0-1	0-0	0-0	1	2	0	1	0	0	1	0
John Byrd, pf	8	0-1	0-0	2-2	0	0	0	0	0	1	2	2
Harold Giles, pg	5	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0
Lenard Hall, c	5	0-0	0-0	4-4	2	3	0	0	0	0	0	4
Totals	200	21-56	4-14	15-18	8	26	14	12	7	6	19	61
Percentages		.375	.286	.833

I lost to a clearly superior team. I have absolutely no regrets about this year's NT. While, of course, I would have liked to have kept winning (2 more times, ideally), my boys accomplished more than I ever could have asked of them. My expectations were completely blown away. tdiddy deserved this win more than I did.

I ran a slowdown zone-press at the default, 0 setting. I figured, well, he hasn't shown any weakness, so there's nothing to exploit...just let your guys try to win it since you can't, as a coach.

8/8/2007 2:09 AM

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Team History

Season	Coach	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Neutral W-L	Conf W-L	Rank	RPI	Notes
21	colorblind79	30-4	10-2	13-1	7-1	14-2	9	6	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
20	colorblind79	14-14	8-6	5-7	1-1	7-9		137
19	colorblind79	17-14	7-7	7-5	3-2	10-6		66	PI (3rd Round)
18	colorblind79	15-12	5-6	10-5	0-1	10-6		116
17	Sim AI	15-13	7-6	7-6	1-1	8-8		116

this year's RPI and rank will probably go down somewhat. I'm not sure how much yet.

[edit : RPI went up to 5 and rank stayed the same]

8/8/2007 2:16 AM

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good game colorblind. nothing shameful about your season. you saved me a lot of headaches by beating UVA... although that just meant I had to play your team which likewise didn't have many holes. You did more with less than I did.

8/8/2007 2:28 AM

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From:Winford Flowers

To:Coach colorblind79

Subject:Still a great season...

Sent:08/08/2007 3:12AM

Coach, even with that Final 4 loss, it was still a heck of a season, one that everyone on campus is proud of! I just hope you're around next season to take us even further.

Winford Flowers
Athletic Director
Fordham University

8/8/2007 7:10 AM

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Quote: Originally Posted By tdiddy3 on 8/08/2007
good game colorblind. nothing shameful about your season. you saved me a lot of headaches by beating UVA... although that just meant I had to play your team which likewise didn't have many holes. You did more with less than I did.

thank you tdiddy, good game. I meant to send you a sitemail this morning congratulating you, but it looks like you beat me to the punch on good sportsmanship.

8/8/2007 7:12 AM

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8/9/2007 7:21 AM

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There is absolutely no chance that I will leave Fordham this year, and little chance that I will leave after next year. I'm in rebuilding processes in all of my other teams at the moment, and I need some success to enjoy. Considering that I expect to make the next two NTs comfortably, I think after that I should have some nice jobs available to me.

I will keep track of which jobs I qualify for, however, for ego-stroking purposes. (Yes, I admit that I have a big ego. At least I'm not a jerk to people who don't **** me off.)

Oh, I went from "Boosters Complaining" to "Exceeding Expectations" with the year I just enjoyed.

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From:	tdiddy3
To:	colorblind79
Received:	8/9/2007 1:27:00 PM
Subject:	RE: congratulations
Message:	thanks. i got lucky with this squad. when i recruited them i had no idea they would end up doing this good or develop as well as they did. the bad part is i have to replace half my roster with 4 graduates and 2 early entry to the draft. your team was pretty solid and in most years probably could have made it to the finals and possibly won. Travis -----Original Message----- From: colorblind79 To: tdiddy3 Sent: 8/9/2007 7:24:00 AM Subject: congratulations you had an amazing team this year, in terms of talent and production, both. You absolutely deserved to win the Championship, so often the favorite loses in the NT. Great job, great season, and good game in the Final Four. CB

8/9/2007 12:11 PM

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Utah is the single school that's apparently an appropriate move for me. I'm not making it, but that's the one. Not bad. A potentially dominant program for a mid-major conference. I'd prefer a DePaul or Marquette, Wisconsin, Texas, or Temple. Iowa's out there, too, but I'm already doing that whole thing in Crum. Nothing else would likely pull me out of Fordham and NYC. I think I could set up a pretty nice program here.

[edit, 8/11, morning:] Texas got scooped up and so did Alabama; extra jobs in the "Qualified" section: Drake, Dayton, St. Louis, UNLV, Virginia Tech, Central Michigan.

8/10/2007 2:44 AM

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Player Ratings

Name	Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Jeremy Edelman	Sr.	PG	55	97	13	39	1	14	78	96	90	63	87	75	A-	708
Laurence Fanelli	Jr.	PG	89	91	22	57	1	1	82	85	94	84	88	80	C+	774
Harold Giles	So.	PG	66	90	13	25	8	12	66	95	90	66	77	63	C+	671
Stacey Duke	Sr.	SG	86	83	8	58	16	3	89	80	83	45	83	56	C-	690
John Jordan	Jr.	SG	61	83	44	33	7	26	89	78	88	73	82	55	C+	719
Robert Thompson	Jr.	SF	83	83	67	41	14	69	73	56	47	69	71	77	B-	750
David Palmer	Jr.	SF	69	74	51	38	28	75	64	60	59	55	74	80	B+	727
John Byrd	Sr.	PF	59	59	88	60	84	86	14	1	46	79	77	60	A	713
Taylor Carey	Jr.	PF	85	46	83	77	63	67	24	5	23	84	73	84	A-	714
Lenard Hall	Jr.	C	51	48	80	34	85	73	1	7	30	68	69	57	A-	603
Averages	-	-	70	75	47	46	31	43	58	56	65	69	78	69	-	707
Key: A="Athleticism," BH="Ball" Handling, P="Passing," SPD="Speed," DE="Defense," REB="Rebounding," BLK="Shot" Blocking, PE="Perimeter," LP="Low" Post, ST="Stamina," DU="Durability," WE="Work" Ethic

Player IQ

Name	Yr.	Pos.	Flex	Motion	Triangle	Fastbreak	Man	Zone	Press
Jeremy Edelman	Sr.	PG	C-	F	A-	F	C+	B	B-
Laurence Fanelli	Jr.	PG	F	F	B	C-	C-	B	B-
Harold Giles	So.	PG	C-	F	B	F	F	B+	B-
Stacey Duke	Sr.	SG	F	C-	B+	F	C+	B+	B-
John Jordan	Jr.	SG	F	F	B+	F	F	B+	B-
Robert Thompson	Jr.	SF	C-	F	B	F	F	B+	B-
David Palmer	Jr.	SF	F	F	A-	F	B-	B	B-
John Byrd	Sr.	PF	C-	F	A-	F	B-	B	B-
Taylor Carey	Jr.	PF	F	C-	B+	F	F	B+	B-
Lenard Hall	Jr.	C	C-	F	B+	F	F	B+	B
Players are graded from A+ to F based on their knowledge of each offense and defense.

8/13/2007 7:19 AM

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end of last season:

Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 8/02/2007

Name Yr. Pos. A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
Jeremy Edelman Jr. PG 54 91 13 40 1 14 78 91 91 63 87 69 A- 692
Laurence Fanelli So. PG 82 84 22 55 1 1 78 84 91 84 84 76 C 742
Harold Giles Fr. PG 62 84 12 24 8 11 66 91 86 66 75 58 C+ 643
Stacey Duke Jr. SG 86 84 7 57 16 3 88 81 84 45 82 55 C- 688
John Jordan So. SG 58 79 41 31 7 24 84 75 86 73 80 50 C+ 688
Robert Thompson So. SF 83 79 63 40 13 67 71 55 44 69 69 72 C+ 725
David Palmer So. SF 68 72 49 37 27 71 61 56 57 55 74 78 B 705
John Byrd Jr. PF 56 59 88 60 84 86 14 1 44 79 76 59 A 706
Taylor Carey So. PF 83 44 78 71 61 62 23 5 22 84 72 76 A- 681
Gregg Carroll Sr. C 62 60 94 66 83 91 14 7 74 93 87 52 A+ 783
Nathan Goines Sr. C 82 52 94 63 91 83 15 16 66 83 86 58 A+ 789
Lenard Hall So. C 50 44 80 32 82 71 1 7 29 68 72 56 B+ 592
Averages - - 69 69 53 48 40 49 49 47 64 72 79 63 - 703
Name Yr. Pos. Flex Motion Triangle Fastbreak Man Zone Press
Jeremy Edelman Jr. PG C- F A- F C+ B B-
Laurence Fanelli So. PG F F B C- C- B B-
Harold Giles Fr. PG C- F B F F B+ B-
Stacey Duke Jr. SG F C- B+ F C+ B+ B-
John Jordan So. SG F F B+ F F B+ B-
Robert Thompson So. SF C- F B F F B+ B-
David Palmer So. SF F F A- F B- B B-
John Byrd Jr. PF C- F A- F B- B B-
Taylor Carey So. PF F C- B+ F F B+ B-
Gregg Carroll Sr. C C- F A F B B+ B
Nathan Goines Sr. C F F A C- B B+ B
Lenard Hall So. C C- F B+ F F B+ B

Name	Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Jeremy Edelman	Jr.	PG	54	91	13	40	1	14	78	91	91	63	87	69	A-	692
Laurence Fanelli	So.	PG	82	84	22	55	1	1	78	84	91	84	84	76	C	742
Harold Giles	Fr.	PG	62	84	12	24	8	11	66	91	86	66	75	58	C+	643
Stacey Duke	Jr.	SG	86	84	7	57	16	3	88	81	84	45	82	55	C-	688
John Jordan	So.	SG	58	79	41	31	7	24	84	75	86	73	80	50	C+	688
Robert Thompson	So.	SF	83	79	63	40	13	67	71	55	44	69	69	72	C+	725
David Palmer	So.	SF	68	72	49	37	27	71	61	56	57	55	74	78	B	705
John Byrd	Jr.	PF	56	59	88	60	84	86	14	1	44	79	76	59	A	706
Taylor Carey	So.	PF	83	44	78	71	61	62	23	5	22	84	72	76	A-	681
Gregg Carroll	Sr.	C	62	60	94	66	83	91	14	7	74	93	87	52	A+	783
Nathan Goines	Sr.	C	82	52	94	63	91	83	15	16	66	83	86	58	A+	789
Lenard Hall	So.	C	50	44	80	32	82	71	1	7	29	68	72	56	B+	592
Averages	-	-	69	69	53	48	40	49	49	47	64	72	79	63	-	703

Name	Yr.	Pos.	Flex	Motion	Triangle	Fastbreak	Man	Zone	Press
Jeremy Edelman	Jr.	PG	C-	F	A-	F	C+	B	B-
Laurence Fanelli	So.	PG	F	F	B	C-	C-	B	B-
Harold Giles	Fr.	PG	C-	F	B	F	F	B+	B-
Stacey Duke	Jr.	SG	F	C-	B+	F	C+	B+	B-
John Jordan	So.	SG	F	F	B+	F	F	B+	B-
Robert Thompson	So.	SF	C-	F	B	F	F	B+	B-
David Palmer	So.	SF	F	F	A-	F	B-	B	B-
John Byrd	Jr.	PF	C-	F	A-	F	B-	B	B-
Taylor Carey	So.	PF	F	C-	B+	F	F	B+	B-
Gregg Carroll	Sr.	C	C-	F	A	F	B	B+	B
Nathan Goines	Sr.	C	F	F	A	C-	B	B+	B
Lenard Hall	So.	C	C-	F	B+	F	F	B+	B

offseason improvement/change:

Edelman - +16 points (nice speed!)

Fanelli - +32 points, + 1/3 FT (now a full-fledged star)

Giles - +28 points

Duke - +2 points

Jordan - +31 points (coming from same place as Duke...may have won starting job?)

Thompson - +25 points, + 1/3 FT

Palmer - +22 points, + 1/3 FT

Byrd - +7 points

Carey - +33 points

Hall - +11 points, + 1/3 FT (and didn't leave)

Goines & Carroll - not drafted

8/13/2007 7:32 AM

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I am very concerned that Fanelli could leave after this year. I might start Edelman over him, in order to keep his stats down a little. Maybe that would be worse, since he'd be going against the second-teamers. Edelman would be a legitimate starter, and having the better FT shooter out there at the end of games might be worthwhile. I'll have to think about it. Fanelli looks amazing, now. I knew he'd develop well.

8/13/2007 7:40 AM

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