Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

So you're saying that you'll not disagree with anyone who has more education and/or technical knowledge on a subject than you ever again?

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/16/2012 3:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

So you're saying that you'll not disagree with anyone who has more education and/or technical knowledge on a subject than you ever again?

Posted by toddcommish on 6/16/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

Economics are an inexact "science".  That is why ANYONE with Google can find an "expert" that will agree with their own point of view, including spaghetti monster believers, conspiracy theorists, and Mayan apocalypse doomsayers.

You don't find people disagreeing about the laws of gravity or physics, but you can find contradictory economic theories from a whole bunch of people with a whole bushelful of degrees, job titles, and certifications.  THEY'RE ******* GUESSING.  ALL.   OF.   THEM.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/17/2012 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Would it be fair to say he can spell better than you?

Not really wanting to open up the SSM debate again, but it's interesting to see Obama saying this (with respect to the upcoming Supreme Court decision on Obamacare):

Publicly, Obama has said he was "confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress, and I just remind conservative commentators that for years, what we've heard is, the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint, that an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law."

Change "democratically elected Congress" to "voters in 36 states", and there you have the SSM debate and jrd's hope that the SC overturns their laws.

Posted by jrd_x on 6/17/2012 2:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by toddcommish on 6/16/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

Economics are an inexact "science".  That is why ANYONE with Google can find an "expert" that will agree with their own point of view, including spaghetti monster believers, conspiracy theorists, and Mayan apocalypse doomsayers.

You don't find people disagreeing about the laws of gravity or physics, but you can find contradictory economic theories from a whole bunch of people with a whole bushelful of degrees, job titles, and certifications.  THEY'RE ******* GUESSING.  ALL.   OF.   THEM.

It's true that economics is inexact and that it is possible that there is no right answer/not all black and white/etc.  But I have presented an argument backed by people who study and teach this stuff for a living.  Mike is arguing against it because it doesn't make intuitive sense to him.

There are lots of things in science that aren't intuitive.  People today still argue with a straight face that evolution didn't happen.  They insist that one species changing over millions of years into another species doesn't make sense intuitively.  Just about every expert in biology and chemistry can show them evidence of evolution, yet they refuse to hear it.

Posted by jrd_x on 6/17/2012 2:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/16/2012 3:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

So you're saying that you'll not disagree with anyone who has more education and/or technical knowledge on a subject than you ever again?

Isn't it possible that you are the person missing something here?

Posted by caesari on 6/18/2012 8:41:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/17/2012 2:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by toddcommish on 6/16/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

Economics are an inexact "science".  That is why ANYONE with Google can find an "expert" that will agree with their own point of view, including spaghetti monster believers, conspiracy theorists, and Mayan apocalypse doomsayers.

You don't find people disagreeing about the laws of gravity or physics, but you can find contradictory economic theories from a whole bunch of people with a whole bushelful of degrees, job titles, and certifications.  THEY'RE ******* GUESSING.  ALL.   OF.   THEM.

It's true that economics is inexact and that it is possible that there is no right answer/not all black and white/etc.  But I have presented an argument backed by people who study and teach this stuff for a living.  Mike is arguing against it because it doesn't make intuitive sense to him.

There are lots of things in science that aren't intuitive.  People today still argue with a straight face that evolution didn't happen.  They insist that one species changing over millions of years into another species doesn't make sense intuitively.  Just about every expert in biology and chemistry can show them evidence of evolution, yet they refuse to hear it.

Wow this is the falsest statement yet. More and more scientists are coming to the conclusion that intelligent design is true, and evolution has too many holes and incosistencies to be true.

Now more than ever science is on the side of intelligent design. When a creationist debates an evolutionist, the evolutionist gets clobbered every time.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/18/2012 8:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/17/2012 2:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/16/2012 3:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/16/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Don't you think there's a difference between disagreeing with someone smarter than you (which you obviously aren't afraid of) and understanding that certain subjects require a great deal of education and technical knowledge, and that when experts put forward an idea that seems contrary to what you think, that maybe you're the one who is missing something?

So you're saying that you'll not disagree with anyone who has more education and/or technical knowledge on a subject than you ever again?

Isn't it possible that you are the person missing something here?

Why did you not answer my question?   Do you fear that I'd find an article published by someone with a title pertinent to economics who disputes inflation as a good thing and you'll be forced to STFU?

Maybe, because as has been noted, one can easily find someone with a title who agrees/disagrees with a specific point of view? 

Do you not think that I've already found a link, from a titled source, that says inflation is bad for the economy?