The Death of World Foxx Topic

psanders84
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The league's WC also shows that they lined up a replacement for an abandoned team during the season and WIS refused to fill the team with the prospective owner -- obviously because he/she was an alias of someone currently in the world.

May be the worst HBD world ever.
1/26/2010 6:22 PM
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I can give my feedback since I was the one that says this team had 130+ and 7 game winners in that post.

At the start of the season, my first year there, I stated that as owners the only way to fix things were to stop trading with him and start vetoing everything. He would trade his high salaried players every year for young prospects. No one ever stepped up to stop it. The league needed to force him to have to cut his best players lose due to salary caps. A few strong owners agreed but few took action.

I did some digging on his trade history. I really do not see a history that would CONVINCE me he was trading to himself. At least not past the first few seasons. Where his tanking and questionable trades built him an incredible stable of talent. The last few years he gave newer owners solid offers for those young studs, thus flipping his salary.

It is really the owners fault. When the one team was not winning, I got limited help in trying to find a new owner. I am not the commish and did not have the time. Support said the would replace if we found someone. I did find an owner but support shot down that prospective owner because something seemed odd. Implying it seemed like an alias. By then I really did not care about the league any more.

Now I will say about 4-5 owners who badly wanted to be in a good league jumped and joined "The Show II". Those guys seem to really care.

It was just a bad league. Owners that would not stand up to the questionable owners and tons of hate with little true proof of who was cheating and win. Although I really believe there was some going on.
1/26/2010 6:42 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By ggd1022 on 1/26/2010
I can give my feedback since I was the one that says this team had 130+ and 7 game winners in that post.

At the start of the season, my first year there, I stated that as owners the only way to fix things were to stop trading with him and start vetoing everything. He would trade his high salaried players every year for young prospects. No one ever stepped up to stop it. The league needed to force him to have to cut his best players lose due to salary caps. A few strong owners agreed but few took action.

I did some digging on his trade history. I really do not see a history that would CONVINCE me he was trading to himself. At least not past the first few seasons. Where his tanking and questionable trades built him an incredible stable of talent. The last few years he gave newer owners solid offers for those young studs, thus flipping his salary.

It is really the owners fault. When the one team was not winning, I got limited help in trying to find a new owner. I am not the commish and did not have the time. Support said the would replace if we found someone. I did find an owner but support shot down that prospective owner because something seemed odd. Implying it seemed like an alias. By then I really did not care about the league any more.

Now I will say about 4-5 owners who badly wanted to be in a good league jumped and joined "The Show II". Those guys seem to really care.

It was just a bad league. Owners that would not stand up to the questionable owners and tons of hate with little true proof of who was cheating and win. Although I really believe there was some going on.



I know I tried to start a "rivarly" with you but for the most part your spot on. I still had/have a feeling that he had alias in the world, and even if the trades were not directly at him, he had other means to get the trades through by having 2-3 votes that didnt veto.
1/26/2010 6:51 PM
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It was a shady league. It is too bad usfbully. You have a great team and it could be completely wasted.
1/26/2010 7:04 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By big_doggie on 1/26/2010
Quote: Originally posted by phillyfan009 on 1/26/2010 rumor has it, he has had 2 or 3 alias's there.....
Rumor has it that you have a few alias yourself...
Rumor has it I won the lottery too....Just waiting for the check!

Rumor has it you are not the "big" doggie you claim to be, but such is life...right!
1/26/2010 7:14 PM
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I just read through this whole thread, and thought, doesn't this argument happen every couple months? Then I realized it was from a couple months ago. I hate whoever bumped this up.
1/26/2010 7:14 PM
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Don't be a hater.
1/26/2010 7:18 PM
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WifS Customer Support really oughta grow a pair and fold Foxx and that Santa Fe team. At this point, they will never make another dime on that team; bornlosers gamed the system to such a degree that he will not need to pay actual $ to WifS for a LOOOONNNNNG time.

Don't merge anything, fold the league. It's an embarrassment.
1/26/2010 8:39 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by jonas1102 on 1/26/2010I just read through this whole thread, and thought, doesn't this argument happen every couple months?  Then I realized it was from a couple months ago.  I hate whoever bumped this up.

*sobs*
1/26/2010 9:22 PM
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They just went from 22 to 23 openings... it's going downhill FAST.
1/26/2010 10:59 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By snake_p on 1/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By coonja76 on 1/26/2010
Looks like their number of openings the last 4 yrs have been 9-15-13-12 and now they're looking at as many as 22. That world is in serious trouble.
It should be. It needs to be euthanized.

And WIS needs to learn something from this.



Maybe so, maybe not. But what is more important is what you all learn about WIS from this.
1/26/2010 11:43 PM
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DON'T GIVE UP HOPE!!!

23 AINT NUTHIN BUT A NUMBER!!!
1/27/2010 7:40 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by sergei91 on 1/27/2010DON'T GIVE UP HOPE!!!23 AINT NUTHIN BUT A NUMBER!!!

Very true! It is much better than 25 openings.....maybe the remaining owners, are actually alias's of bornlosers?
1/27/2010 7:44 AM
sergei91
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could be
1/27/2010 7:45 AM
MikeT23
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23 owners could create aliases, get the discount season and trade all their BL players/prospects to owners in bornlosers division for nothing. Then leave the world after the season while only trying to win against BL.
1/27/2010 8:38 AM
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