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scudmissle
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high fta?... i wouldn't want a high fta guy on my team who can't hit them. he gives away free points. i am not a shaq fan by any stretch... artis has a great efg% and boards better than shaq. but, shaq is shaq for the owner that can use him best. am happy u like him, felonius, but the guy, imo, is overrated, and over weighted. but my opinion is 5th tier usage anyway.
4/26/2011 9:30 PM
scudmissle
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jakotay is still MIA, and hasn't drafted in the hdp either. i am very close to giving his team to vancem if vancem still wants in.

NOTE: i've just invited vancem into the league to take over jakotay's spot. if vancem accepts, the change will go into effect immediately. i love jakotay, and he's a great owner, but he is missing these days and has more inmportant things going on in his life. if in fact he does return, he has more pressing duties to take care of in the wis than this league. odl, hdp and other leagues he runs and is a member of. i wish him best, but this is the 3rd round he has been very late and been skipped.

i wish he'd take my offer to come to china. i could find him such a great job. make more money here than he could in the states.
4/26/2011 9:40 PM (edited)
dh555
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Posted by scudmissle on 4/26/2011 9:30:00 PM (view original):
high fta?... i wouldn't want a high fta guy on my team who can't hit them. he gives away free points. i am not a shaq fan by any stretch... artis has a great efg% and boards better than shaq. but, shaq is shaq for the owner that can use him best. am happy u like him, felonius, but the guy, imo, is overrated, and over weighted. but my opinion is 5th tier usage anyway.
well i would have blasted you for saying such nonsense a few days ago and pointed out how shaq is destroying the bowis draft league....but after 5 straight losses(3 of them due to shaq blowing games late) i think ill take it easy with the shaq love for awhile
4/26/2011 10:04 PM
robocoach
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'Zo is no Bill Walton.

I'm ok with him, my team looks decent. The nice thing is I can take whatever with the SF pick now.

4/26/2011 10:13 PM
scudmissle
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dh555 said: "well i would have blasted you for saying such nonsense a few days ago and pointed out how shaq is destroying the bowis draft league....but after 5 straight losses(3 of them due to shaq blowing games late) i think ill take it easy with the shaq love for awhile"
 
i have 17 rings, but easily should be 19. when garyman and i joined wis a few years back, i told him one day during our smoke break, that one of my goals was to reach 20 rings, and then i'd retire. haha. well, two times shaq cost me game 7's in the finals, like a bad dream repeating itself because the lard bucket couldn't hit 1 of 2 free throws. one game cost me the game, and the other sent me into overtime which i lost. haha. always haeld that against shaq. decided, my centers would hit free throws from now on. hence the robinson pick. if my big man is oing to the line 800+ times a season, i want 70% of those free points, not 42%, or 51%. one of the reasons i rarely ever draft wilt, too. just my thinking. not saying it is sound thinking, just that free throws are my pet peeve.
4/26/2011 11:37 PM
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Shaq > Artis

Are we talking IRL?  it's really not that close. 
4/27/2011 2:38 AM
scudmissle
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in real life, i'd never let shaq close to my team if i owned one. artis, on the other hand, would be welcome in the locker room. dude was low-key and funny.

Regarded as one of the strongest men ever to play professional basketball, Gilmore was one of the league's most intimidating centers during the 1970s and 1980s. Most players knew better than to bring the ball to the hoop when the 7-2 Gilmore was in the middle.

During his long career that spanned 12 seasons in the NBA and five in the American Basketball Association, Gilmore was known as a workhorse, playing 670 consecutive games at one stretch. He barely spoke above a whisper and rarely got in fights or argued with referees. Instead of lashing out verbally, the media-shy Gilmore responded to critics who called him lazy and uninspired by staging comeback after comeback and by remaining a potent force until the end of his career.

Gilmore was an All-Star in 11 of his 17 years as a pro, his last selection coming at age 36. Scoring most of his more than 15,000 NBA points with dunks, finger-rolls and baby hook shots, the lefthanded Gilmore posted a career .599 field-goal percentage, the highest ever in the league. He shot .600 or better in six different seasons, and he led the NBA in field-goal percentage four times. His 1,747 NBA blocked shots rank him near the top in that category as well. Gilmore also earned All-ABA First Team honors in each of his five seasons with the Kentucky Colonels, and he was the league's Most Valuable Player and Rookie of the Year in 1971-72.

his persoanl life story is great. raised in the florida panhandle and went to school barefool when he was a freshman in highschool because the shoe stores didn't have a size 14 at the time. haha. son of a poor fisherman. i guess i just like the dude.

4/27/2011 3:41 AM (edited)
scudmissle
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dh555's team is scary! daniels was the perfect center for that squad. 2 great scorers, a great boardman and a quiet dish man who gives room for wade to wage war. this team is already complete without a sf.

and brad, nater was perfect to put alongside howard. god! you two are the front runners i think, only because sappy drafted love to play alongside wilt. too much firepower on that team with mcgrady and porter to boot. but it will be easy for sappy to find a low usage high def sf, because the man doesn't have to do much. dont need a scorer, or a 3 point specialist or rebounder.

some excellent teams already. and even though i do not like shaq, felonius's team is starting to make a lot of sense to me. i'm actually liking walker's game with russell and shaq and manu. will be a fun season this year.
4/27/2011 11:31 AM
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17. badja - Walt Frazier, Ron Harper, Karl Malone, Tyson Chandler,  B+   Thanks for the good grade scud! 

DH and Brad -damn!
4/27/2011 11:56 AM
robocoach
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Difficult to compare Shaq to Gilmore for this reason alone: Shaq had very, very few dominant big men matching up against him in his career, Gilmore spent every game playing against Malone, Unseld, KAJ, Parrish, Cowens, Walton, Hayes, Lanier, McAdoo and so forth.


Plus Shaq had the luxury of playing in an NBA where several hundred fouls a season were called against defenders who had the temerity to run their faces into his elbows.
4/27/2011 12:13 PM
longtallbrad
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Well, in the first part of his career he played against Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, and Mourning, all in their primes. 

And who exactly was Gilmore playing against in the ABA, where he posted his gaudier numbers?

Don't get me wrong - Gilmore was a great player who probably deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.  I just think you're verging on overstating your case a bit.
4/27/2011 12:18 PM
sawtech7
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rings count for nothing in this crowd?
4/27/2011 12:46 PM
robocoach
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In the Lakers Basketball Association? No, rings count for nothing.
4/27/2011 1:32 PM
longtallbrad
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I may regret trading down in the fifth round, but the top available players (who should be on most everyone's list) are too expensive and/or don't fit my needs.  I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the round moves quickly and that one of 3 or 4 guys is still available when my turn comes up.
4/27/2011 2:01 PM
felonius
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Posted by scudmissle on 4/26/2011 9:30:00 PM (view original):
high fta?... i wouldn't want a high fta guy on my team who can't hit them. he gives away free points. i am not a shaq fan by any stretch... artis has a great efg% and boards better than shaq. but, shaq is shaq for the owner that can use him best. am happy u like him, felonius, but the guy, imo, is overrated, and over weighted. but my opinion is 5th tier usage anyway.

the point of FTA isnt necessarily the scoring (guys dont tend to get to the line as frequently as irl anyway which is why efg is more important than TS in the sim) it's what he'll wind up doing to a guy like Artis head to head - which is put him on the bench with foul trouble

4/27/2011 4:04 PM
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