Fell way short of our first seasons totals, and short of the current leader in my second attempt. 97 wins and NET 685SB.

Player	SN	B	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	STRK	L STRK
Wills, Maury	1962	S	162	701	109	190	8	2	2	49	45	43	3	149	19	.271	.316	.297	.613	1	16
Coleman, Vince	1985	S	162	693	120	206	18	5	1	65	39	106	5	175	42	.297	.338	.342	.680	1	11
Henderson, Rickey	1988	R	162	653	103	192	31	8	4	113	64	61	1	102	21	.294	.355	.384	.740	2	14
Womack, Tony	1997	L	162	638	72	158	19	8	2	102	28	77	4	70	9	.248	.281	.312	.593	2	7
Coleman, Vince	1987	S	162	625	88	185	8	17	3	86	66	87	3	110	35	.296	.364	.378	.742	5	16
Raines, Tim	1981	S	162	618	112	178	24	8	8	109	59	72	5	146	36	.288	.353	.392	.745	3	8
Maisel, Fritz	1915	R	162	598	81	166	14	2	13	94	48	43	3	52	10	.278	.332	.373	.705	1	10
Wathan, John	1982	R	160	554	65	136	20	3	2	62	45	60	4	69	14	.245	.305	.303	.609	4	7

Update on Grand Theft Motto -

With 26 games left to play, we are now 84-52 and look almost (knock on wood) sure of reaching 90 wins. The team goes through real peaks and valleys depending on the catcher arms, and after having a few great 10+ net SB games in a row, have now faced the A+ arm stretch of the schedule where I'm getting between -2 and 2 net SB per game. Currently sitting at 682 net, which puts me on pace for about 812 by season's end. Hoping I'm getting those pesky A+ arms out of the way so my team can run down the stretch.

Player	SN	B	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	STRK	L STRK
Brock, Lou	1974	L	136	578	91	159	24	7	3	68	48	75	2	121	37	.275	.331	.356	.688	3	10
Wills, Maury	1962	S	135	569	85	156	15	5	0	76	46	29	4	135	12	.274	.332	.318	.650	3	15
Coleman, Vince	1985	S	135	563	77	147	20	9	1	73	40	83	2	136	28	.261	.310	.334	.644	0	7
Coleman, Vince	1986	S	135	522	68	111	8	4	1	65	45	73	3	91	20	.213	.278	.249	.527	7	7
Henderson, Rickey	1988	R	134	517	102	159	28	2	4	67	79	38	3	103	24	.308	.400	.393	.793	7	7
Maisel, Fritz	1914	R	134	484	64	100	18	4	5	51	66	69	1	81	14	.207	.303	.291	.594	7	7
Raines, Tim	1981	S	112	441	85	141	16	5	8	86	56	36	3	140	26	.320	.394	.433	.828	17	17
Wathan, John	1982	R	113	414	52	106	12	2	1	59	46	38	2	46	11	.256	.331	.302	.633	1	8

Also would be remiss to not stress enough how much my pitchers overperforming has helped me (hopefully) secure the 90 wins with a little breating room, particularly the starting rotation.

Player	SN	T	G	GS	CG	SHO	W	L	SV	SVO	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	OAV	OBP	SLG	WHIP	ERA
Bernhard, Bill	1902	R	32	32	14	0	16	7	0	0	253.7	224	96	68	6	54	42	.230	.275	.281	1.10	2.41
Baldwin, Lady	1885	L	32	30	9	1	19	8	0	0	242.0	215	99	80	4	68	185	.225	.277	.275	1.17	2.98
Beebe, Fred	1908	R	30	29	1	1	13	4	0	1	190.0	171	70	55	8	68	57	.232	.299	.285	1.26	2.61
McGinnity, Joe	1902	R	28	26	2	1	12	5	0	0	179.3	158	47	29	2	37	57	.230	.275	.274	1.09	1.46

My BLM team (that currently holds the SB bounty) just finished an 11-2 postseason run, sweeping the LCS and WS. Outscored the opposition 74-42 and a net 67 SB (81-14).

Bottom line - these speed teams are GOOD in an OL.

This was also another example of a team posting the best W-L% during the regular season and going on to win it all. We hear so many stories about playoff upsets that I thought this was worth noting.

Posted by contrarian23 on 10/27/2020 1:48:00 PM (view original):
My BLM team (that currently holds the SB bounty) just finished an 11-2 postseason run, sweeping the LCS and WS. Outscored the opposition 74-42 and a net 67 SB (81-14).

Bottom line - these speed teams are GOOD in an OL.

This was also another example of a team posting the best W-L% during the regular season and going on to win it all. We hear so many stories about playoff upsets that I thought this was worth noting.

It is amazing to me to see you be that dominant with that kind of middle infield defense That'll change some of my thinking for sure

It is part of what is fascinating about the bounty system just4me has set up. Normally I would agree with you about IF defense (Wills and Raines combined for about 80 bad plays, defined as (errors + minus plays) - (plus plays)). But they also provided about 250 net steals. That's a pretty good ROI.

Another way to look at this team: the offense was incredibly efficient. They hit very few doubles (only 4 teams hit fewer); very few HR (only 3 teams hit fewer), drew 433 walks (league average was 473), and had a below average team OPS (.702 compared to .706).

Yet they still finished 4th in runs scored, with 855. League average was 760, and the highest scoring offense was 895.

I didn't keep track of (and am too lazy to go back and look at it in detail) but I bet we played > .750 ball against teams with D+/D/D- arms. Just checking one team that platooned a pair of D- catchers, we went 10-2 against them. In those 12 games we stole 118 bases and were caught 9 times.

The SB is probably my favorite of all the bounty teams and why I keep trying them. My 3rd attempt is under way, and though we’re off to a poor 0-5 start (and only net 7SB) we’ve faced an A+ and A- catchers and so will hopefully find some more success soon. I went a different approach in this team and I’m already having some buyers remorse ha

So many new one-team accounts at WIS with very strong political opinions. Why don't you guys (if you are indeed plural, and not the same troll) stick to the Non Sports forum with this stuff?

Did you pay for that one team, or was it a promo deal?

Also, why don't you talk politics with your real account? Nobody wants to debate an alias.

Posted by chargingryno on 10/27/2020 6:04:00 PM (view original):
The SB is probably my favorite of all the bounty teams and why I keep trying them. My 3rd attempt is under way, and though we’re off to a poor 0-5 start (and only net 7SB) we’ve faced an A+ and A- catchers and so will hopefully find some more success soon. I went a different approach in this team and I’m already having some buyers remorse ha

Agreed. I've got 2 more underway (probably my last two, given the 12/31 deadline). Neither is off to a strong start, but in both cases I am going with a slightly different approach. The number of A+ arms you face is obviously a huge unknown variable.

Page 1 updated... and I love how successful these SB teams have been in the win column and playoffs, as well.

Posted by chargingryno on 10/28/2020 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Fell way short of our first seasons totals, and short of the current leader in my second attempt. 97 wins and NET 685SB.

Player	SN	B	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	STRK	L STRK
Wills, Maury	1962	S	162	701	109	190	8	2	2	49	45	43	3	149	19	.271	.316	.297	.613	1	16
Coleman, Vince	1985	S	162	693	120	206	18	5	1	65	39	106	5	175	42	.297	.338	.342	.680	1	11
Henderson, Rickey	1988	R	162	653	103	192	31	8	4	113	64	61	1	102	21	.294	.355	.384	.740	2	14
Womack, Tony	1997	L	162	638	72	158	19	8	2	102	28	77	4	70	9	.248	.281	.312	.593	2	7
Coleman, Vince	1987	S	162	625	88	185	8	17	3	86	66	87	3	110	35	.296	.364	.378	.742	5	16
Raines, Tim	1981	S	162	618	112	178	24	8	8	109	59	72	5	146	36	.288	.353	.392	.745	3	8
Maisel, Fritz	1915	R	162	598	81	166	14	2	13	94	48	43	3	52	10	.278	.332	.373	.705	1	10
Wathan, John	1982	R	160	554	65	136	20	3	2	62	45	60	4	69	14	.245	.305	.303	.609	4	7

Division series started today. We're up 1-0 after a solid 8SB 9-3 win.

Despite 16SB in game 4, we were eliminated from the playoffs yesterday. Bullpen gave up 8 runs in the 8th/9th to lose an otherwise dominant game