jbar8888 - the only thing I could see that might hurt is making you spend a little extra on a back-up C, so Tim McCarver can hang up his microphone.

People have all day today for Dagger 2, but need to offer a team if they have not.
Starting tomorrow, I will pester people individually so we can get rolling.

yep, waiting for Vilefileman to offer a team for the dagger.

Ribbentrop, it makes sense to offer the 1940 Phillies for a dagger because they are so slippery. When I try to build with your players, most of the Phillies end up as bench slots and you have redundancy at each position where a Philly is the cheapest. Mostly RP and OF. If anything, you might be forced to use Phillies on the bench where another player could be sliightly cheaper. But not much.

I found two players worth starter consideration. Billy Bragan is comparable to Mark Belanger, although might place some pressure on your use of better 1970 Orioles.

The other is SP Kirby Higbe. He is similar to Jim Palmer but saves 500k for similar innings. This seems a better source of Oriole pressure to me than SS, so that's what I decided to do.

Higbe was an all star that year, and was traded to Brooklyn for $100k, which was a huge sum back then. But after helping them reach the World Series, he left to serve in WW2 and was not as strong after returning. He also divorced during that time (although he remarried). He was particularly vocal in opposition to Jackie Robinson, which would create some massive clubhouse tension if these players were not sims. He did work later as ..... a prison guard.

So, Higbe might be the player in your pile who most seriously needed to be hit with cupid's dagger.

whalers10 is set up quite nicely with position players and decent back-ups. He also has decent starting pitchers available, although relief pitching could be a problem. It's hard to find a weak spot to exploit - and which of the '40 Senators he might miss the most.
I considered 3B Cecil Travis and OFs Buddy Lewis and George Case as dagger candidates but in each case there are good options elsewhere.
Since it appears that whalers10 will be using a several pitchers from the '40 Reds, I ended up deciding to force him to use of one of his 6 (or 7) roster spots from those '40 Reds on a back-up at SS (Billy Myers). It should make it a little harder to keep one of those good pitchers from the '40 Reds and might effect your roster decisions all around.
Good Luck - you'll have a good team and I'm glad you're not in my division...
2nd Dagger - SS Jimmy Pofahl

Still waiting for my 1st dagger...

Posted by jpeterso on 2/14/2026 1:30:00 PM (view original):
yep, waiting for Vilefileman to offer a team for the dagger.

I am waiiting for him to dagger on of my 1970 Pirates.

You can dagger 70 Expos

You can dagger 70 Expos

Posted by redcped on 2/14/2026 1:06:00 PM (view original):
Midknight, I have tried to find a way to screw you with the 1970 Detroit Tigers, and it's quite a puzzle.

Their best pitcher is John Hiller, and he's nothing great. You won't be using many Tiger arms anyway.

You have plenty of similar catchers, so no use dinging Freehan or even his cheap backup Price. You can work around those just fine.

There's no scenario I see where you're using Norm Cash at 1B, so nothing to see there. You have no one cheaper than $1.7M and have to get creative, but Cash is an unlikely piece of that plan.

There's a high likelihood you use 1 or even 2 of the Tigers at 2B, where your options are all pretty weak anyway. A potential spot.

I don't think you'll care if Elliot Maddox or Don Wert disappears from the options at 3B.

You only have 4 shortstops. The Tigers' Gutierrez is the cheapest at $1.7M, but the Browns also have a $1.9M one. You'll be eating some salary here regardless. Maybe you play Kubek in the outfield? I dunno, but I'm not sure taking Gutierrez away makes it all that much harder. But maybe ...

Outfield is intriguing, as you have one cheap guy plus potentially two guys from other positions competing for time since you have no cheap backups at 1B or SS. There are four Tigers outfielders, none of them cheap. Horton, Kaline and Northrup are somewhat interchangeable, and Stanley is the best defender (though not your only option in CF). I could take Horton away since he's the least expensive and a slightly better bat.

What I see as your biggest challenge on this team now is how to use the Indians and Yankees spots most effectively. The Yankees have 5 of your best pitching options, plus Kubek and Maris that you'd probably like to use. The Indians have 2 of your best pitchers, your best 1B and 3B and your best cheap options at a few positions. So I guess the best thing I can do is force you into a harder choice with one of those teams. ... Except I built out this roster as I would have done it, and I'm flummoxed as to which player would cause the most trouble to lose.

Since I can't determine anywhere I can cause real pain, I'll just take another of your best hitters (and a great value) out of the mix and dagger OF Willie Horton. I suspect you won't be too bothered by it, but you'll hopefully let me know sometime if this caused any trouble.

As the second daggers go, it was a good one. I had mapped out both Kaline and Horton as starters in my OF. Losing Horton took away a good bat and forced me to do a fair amount of shuffling of my team. I think at the end of the day I lost some offense and something no one ever said about Horton, some defense. Not in the OF, but probably at 3B where I will likely now play Hector Lopez out of position.

Vilefileman, you've got a ton of pitching, but you'll need to be very creative to fill out your position players (especially at 1B). I see your best Montreal Expos assets as C John Bateman because he has the most PAs and if you can't roster him, you probably don't have enough PAs to take C Joe Garagiola, your cheapest option at C. The next asset is 3B Bob Bailey who is a little light on PAs but sports over a .1000 OPS. Finally, you have great pitching and could use the salary relief of RP Joe Sparma at a little over $201K. In the end, it's not even close. You can have Sparma and Bateman but you will have to do without 3B Bob Bailey and his bat. Good luck.

BullMoose 1970 Roberto Clemente

No rush, but once you have your team built, please paste it here for confirmation.
I and others can check it, and I would appreciate if a returning player could double check mine.
Also, if any returning player has a previous league number, could you share it with me? Searches are not finding the prior template.
I had two players listed for the wrong teams - TY beernoser.

1930 Philadelphia Phillies
1930 Lefty O'Doul OF $6,510,225
1930 Hal Elliott SP/RP $1,449,440
1930 John Milligan SP/RP $638,859
1930 Phil Collins SP/RP $5,349,240
1930 Pinky Whitney 3B $5,911,073
1930 Spud Davis C $2,841,725

1930 New York Yankees
1930 Ben Chapman 3B $4,208,495
1930 Bill Dickey C $3,297,645
1930 Jimmie Reese 2B $1,482,036
1930 Ownie Carroll SP/RP $252,915
1930 George Pipgras SP/RP $5,801,203
1930 Red Ruffing SP/RP $7,302,004

1950 New York Giants
1950 Alvin Dark SS $4,879,064
1950 Bill Rigney 2B $201,556
1950 George Spencer SP/RP $1,054,850
1950 Larry Jansen SP $8,420,916
1950 Monte Irvin 1B $4,095,633
1950 Roy Weatherly OF $427,266
1950 Sheldon Jones SP/RP $4,083,847

1960 Washington Senators
1960 Billy Consolo SS $796,204
1960 Bob Allison OF $3,821,693
1960 Faye Throneberry OF $780,858
1960 Harmon Killebrew 1B $3,896,446
1960 Pete Whisenant OF $679,803
1960 Ray Moore SP/RP $1,790,213

$79,973,209 Roster total
Shibe Park (PHI)

Roster total: $79,947,534
Park: CORRECTION we will play in County Stadium in Milwaukee

70 Giants (7)
C Dick Dietz $5,117,341
1B Willie McCovey $6,356,344
2B Tito Fuentes $2,217,333
OF Willie Mays $4,658,123
OF Bob Taylor $299,969
RP Ron Bryant $1,802,963
RP Don McMahon $2,606,056

70 Padres (6)
OF Cito Gaston $5,672,739
1B Ray Webster $456,298
3B Van Kelly $249,084
SP Dave Roberts $4,309,134
RP Tom Dukes $1,533,501
RP Ron Willis $1,065,347

50 White Sox (6)
C Gus Niarhos $875,702
2B Cass Michaels $1,324,238
OF Mike McCormick $884,545
SS Chico Carrasquel $3,986,025
SS Luke Appling $540,160
RP Howie Judson $2,290,507

60 Braves (6)
3B Eddie Mathews $6,143,505
OF Hank Aaron $6,779,770
SP Warren Spahn $6,669,550
SP Bob Buhl $5,869,705
SP Lew Burdette $7,314,979
RP Ron Piche $924,616

They Stole My Yaz

$ 79, 847, 653

We play in Crosley Field

1970 Boston Red Sox (6)

2B- Mike Andrews 3,831,900
O- Tony Conigliaro 4,019,222
SS- Rico Petrocelli 4,662,157
O- George Thomas 913,753
P- Ray Culp 6,539,552
P- Jim Lonborg 593,072

1930 St Louis Browns (6)

3B- Sammy Hale 948,072
SS- Red Kress 4,773,055
O- Goose Goslin 5,114,007
C- Clyde Manion 1,410,497
O- Heine Manush 1,542,686
P- Rip Collins 4,195,186

1970 Washington Senators (6)

O- Frank Howard 6,075,113
2B- Bernie Allen 1,410,442
3B- Ken McMullen 232,064
P- Dick Bosman 5,685,544
P- Darold Knowles 3,270,710
P- Horacio Pina 1,466,412

1960 Cincinnati Reds (7)

1B- Frank Robinson 5,697,459
C- Ed Bailey 4,273,358
1B- Gordy Coleman 1,615,252
P- Jim O'Toole 4,322,014
P- Bob Purkey 5,575,104
P- Bob Grim 492,243
P- Marshall Bridges 1,188,779

Screw teams and daggers all did a good job. My weakness is the bullpen and the first dagger hit that hard. In fact my last roster moves were trying to get a few extra dollars so I can improve my bullpen. I ended up with three relievers with 40 innings or less. We'll see. The second dagger hitting Yaz hurt as I dreamed of Yaz's 452 OBP batting in front of my two Franks, Robinson and Howard. I expect my team to be okay but not great.