whalers10

You are welcome to dagger somebody from my 1956 Kansas City A's

Beernoser,

For your 2nd dagger, I look at your 4 rosters and see some good hitting options and the salaries are very reasonable. I'm a little puzzled why you would make 1976 Cards the target. It suggests that you are serving up C Ted Simmons on a platter. You may even have other cost savings plans at C to open up enough cash for Newcombe. There are some quality bench guys on the Cards too, but no one that merits a dagger.

Your starters are ok. Not the most durable group. The bullpen is rubbish other than AL Hrabosky (and he is little pricey). I actually won't mind seeing AL late in games. He is one of the best relievers on your 4 teams. This is very tempting to remove him as it will drop off more after him. Your team will be in many close games for sure. Something tells me no. I'll take my chances on that as he is not top tier.

So it comes down to Denny, Falcone or Simmons.

eeny. meeny, miny, Falcone. He is a solid lefty with good OAV and strikeouts better than Denny. Pete Falcone fly away. Pelican fly! Come on, pelican!

Posted by ermocito on 8/3/2023 10:15:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by midknight on 8/2/2023 7:51:00 PM (view original):
calhoop - fire away at my 1976 Milwalkee Brewers.

Interesting collection of left-side infielders you have midknight:

Total of 5 eligible players at shortstop ranging from $2.9mm to $4.15mm in salary. Some are multi-positional so there may be some creative uses available.

Total of 5 eligible players at 3b (salaries are: $542k, $3.6mm, $4.2mm, $5.66mm and $6.6mm). Not so much multi-positional creativity available with these guys since Brett and Money are the only ones eligible at another position and both are at shortstop with D-/D- fielding.

Just so happens that the $542k cheapo third baseman, Jack Heidemann plays for the 1976 Brewers. And is now officially daggered.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would ever grieve the loss of Jack Heidemann. Never say never...

Aug 3 shall henceforth be known as "Heidemann Day." It could have been Aug 2, but that was my late Aunt's birthday.

What are others doing to commemorate? I think I might travel to Harvard and roam around, taking in the ambiance.

For Heidemann Day I am heading to the practice field and will be pounding groundballs to my shortstop, George Brett. Also in attendance will be various members of the '36 Senators who will be getting schooled at playing multiple positions all over the field. Thank God for Royals Stadium where 3B's are a +3 rating. My starting lineup may be a bit rough in the field, but average 10 triples a piece. Run Forrest, run!

Vilefileman please feel free to dagger my 46 Pirates.

Calhoop say bye to your best 3rd baseman Hector Lopez

Recped dagger the 76 Angels

Vilefileman please feel free to dagger my 46 Pirates.

Whalers this team is baaaaaaad. We will dagger Bill Salkeld a very good hitting backup lefty catcher. I saw nothing else worthwhile.

Posted by vilefileman on 8/3/2023 3:49:00 PM (view original):
Recped dagger the 76 Angels

Challenge accepted, vilefileman!

So let's look at the options ...

The Angels have a couple lousy catchers. Feel free to use them.
They have a solid 252 PA 1B who would make for a nice platoon. An option there.
They have a couple 2B who are unremarkable and similar enough to other guys.
They have one pretty unimpressive 3B. You can have him.
They have one pretty unimpressive SS. You can have him.
They have a few outfielders whose best asset is speed. I'd rather you use most of them than the dangerous Tigers you've got available. So you can have them, too.

That's going to leave us with the pitchers. Their best option by far is Frank Tanana, whose $9.4M salary could be a bit prohibitive but with Howard off the table he's one of your two potential aces and his $/IP is actually quite reasonable. After that you've got Nolan Ryan, with a lot of Ks and a lot of BBs, but there are some better options from other teams for your rotation. No one else is particularly helpful.

The key, of course, is you have to use 6 of these guys and at most 3-4 of their hitters are worth considering. So if it were my team, I'd rather put the money in Tanana atop my rotation than anywhere else. And therefore, that's the reason he's got to go. Bye, bye, Frank Tanana.

(As a side note, after building my team which is going to be heavily leaning to righty hitters, I am now reckoning with having just daggered lefty starters on two of my division foes and thereby damaging my own prospects. But it's still the best call here. Also, I lost Spahn to a dagger so the division's lefty hitters have been spared a lot of tough opponents.)

ermocito you can place the last nail in my coffin with the 1926 Boston Braves

Still waiting for two first round daggers.

Posted by _jwillis on 8/2/2023 11:07:00 PM (view original):
Looking at jpeterso's team, well, it's stacked. This is my third time playing in this format, and I don't think I've seen a combination of rosters before with so much positional flexibility and so much talent. The only problem he'll have is going to be salary, and thankfully, Beernoser made that problem a little bit worse by nixing his only cheap backup shortstop.

I thought about trying to force the issue further by axing a cheap pitcher like Ernie Maun, but that doesn't really do much, since the next cheaper pitcher is only $390K more. Then I thought about knifing Hal Carlson, the only serviceable arm in the bunch, and someone he might turn to as a way to trim salary. But actually, I hope he ends up rostering Hal Carlson, because I'd much rather have to face him than someone like Don Newcombe.

No, in the end, the obvious choice ended up being the right choice.

When in doubt, you kill off the best player, and the best player on this team is the lefty outfielder with the .345/.418/.568 stat line. Sure, he only has 412 ABs, but that could end up being a benefit at only $3.7M, since jpeterso has plenty of guys (Hodges, Robinson, Gilliam) who are primarily infielders but can also play the outfield. So a cheaper starting outfielder like might actually fit in nicely as part of multi-positional platoon, especially since there are likely going to be some surplus infield at bats thanks to Beernoser's first dagger.

But he'll need to find another affordable outfielder, because Cy Williams has been called OUT.

you guys are too good at this. The only Dodger I hoped wouldn't get nixed is Chico Fernandez and the only Philly I hated to lose was Cy Williams. Thanks guys. I will now have a really unbalanced roster.

Posted by whalers10 on 8/3/2023 5:54:00 PM (view original):
Still waiting for two first round daggers.

ahhh.... that's why i still fell ok about my team...

Razorclams can dagger the 1966 California Angels

I am having trouble putting my team together.

BTW, both of my dagger throwers hit me hard which was surprising because there were more obvious ones which wouldn't have hurt nearly as bad.

Anyway, I hope to have a team decided on by the end of the weekend. At that point I will create a new forum for the posting of teams so I can examine and approve them.

As always, if there is ever a conflict over what player can be used it will be what shows up when you load the player as part of his team.

I know it is frustrating when you pull your hair out to get the roster to fill all the restrictions and then I tell you you're using the wrong innings pitched version of some pitcher.

Posted by Peekay on 8/3/2023 5:31:00 PM (view original):
ermocito you can place the last nail in my coffin with the 1926 Boston Braves

You might easily UNDERSPEND your 80m and you have plenty of cheap backups regardless of which Brave gets whacked. This feels like a nearly wasted dagger however it hits. Wild.

SS Dave Bancroft is hardly a coffin nail, but is one of a couple of Braves starters you might have used. I came close to "fostering" a 27 inning dagger instead of Dave...