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Posted by briandnlo4 on 7/13/2011 5:37:00 PM (view original):
that's knowledge *****!
I am comfortable in the knowledge that you can call me champ.
7/13/2011 5:42 PM
the problem will be Petrov. With a 59 attitude, his morale will take a little longer than the others. But Zigich with his 93, Preddy 83, Tarasov 78, Lienke and Bogdanov 76, and even Jollie's 68, it doesn't take as much to make them happy. Coach Filippov's 114 leadership helps too.

Preddy's 83 attitude was the BIG reason I wanted him. He'll keep improving long after his potential is spent, the team will commit fewer penalties in front of him, and he'll take less money than, say, the guy Probie tried to trade me with his 64 attitude.
7/13/2011 5:43 PM
Posted by speedfreak on 7/13/2011 5:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by briandnlo4 on 7/13/2011 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Ain't no theory. That's proven.

ok. I'm gonna put this to the test. Right now, Proks is my only contract that is up at the end of the year.

July 12
rating - 93 overall
health - 99
morale - happy dood (his attitude, though, is a 57, age is 26)
contract -   $2,450,849
cost to sign right now - $6,602,546 a season plus a $1,650,636 signing bonus.

 

there's five levels of happy dude.

there's "crying his eyes out" icon
there's "frowny faced" icon
there's "flat smile" icon
there's "smiley" icon
then there's "big toothy wide ****-eating, just-had-a-threesome, couldn't-wipe-it-off-with-a-brick" icon.

Wait to resign until he's got the last one. You'll save a shitload. How do you think my early teams were SO loaded with a $35M cap? I played every cap management card in the deck until I gave up and went for it during Season 5 (and won the Cup that year thx).
7/13/2011 5:47 PM
    = proks
7/13/2011 5:48 PM
= resign me now, I may even take a pay cut if I fucked you when you first signed me as a free-agent.

= I'm a game or two, or maybe a day off from practice away from cutting you a deal.

= You're making me work too hard, you never let me play, you're not fair!

= I'm thinking about asking for either a trade or my binky..

= actually thinking about quitting on you.
7/20/2011 11:31 AM (edited)
Posted by briandnlo4 on 7/13/2011 5:54:00 PM (view original):
= resign me now, I may even take a pay cut if I fucked you when you first signed me as a free-agent.

= I'm a game or two, or maybe a day off from practice away from cutting you a deal.

= You're making me work too hard, you never let me play, you're not fair!

= I'm thinking about asking for either a trade or my binky..

actually crying, tears running down his face (couldn't find one) = actually thinking about quitting on you.
Coulda sworn we'd be able to find one on wylie's team.
7/13/2011 5:57 PM
Gregos is putting in some work on Osaka.
7/13/2011 5:58 PM
Gregos just played that game with my old guy Cannone. I cut him, he signed him for two years for over $3M/year before the rollover (between midnight after Game 3 of the Final, and 6AM when the free agent pool reset).

That made this year the last year of his contract, and he resigned him for 3yrs at $2.2M per.
7/13/2011 6:02 PM
THAT's how you load a roster without spending a shitload.

The only guys I sign to 4 year contracts off the free agent list anymore are 1st year guys who are never going to have lower overalls. Like the guy who goes from 68 overall to 74 after one practice. THAT guy gets a four-year deal, everyone else gets two, re-negotiate after one, he plays five seasons for the new, lower salary.

7/13/2011 6:03 PM
Let's break down the Cannone signing.

He's brought on at 2.9mil/yr +signing bonus, which would amount to 2.9m/2.9m for seasons 10 and 11. Total cost 5.8 + signing bonus.
He's resigned for not only this current year, but three more seasons at 2.2m + another signing bonus. This would equal for seasons 10/11/12/13 2.2m x 4 plus two signing bonuses.

Your choices are two years at a total of 5.8mil + 1 signing bonus (let's round out to 25% of salary = 1.4m+) which would total 2yrs/7.2 mil

or Gregos' current route of

Four years (signed thru season 13) at 2.2m, but has to absorb both signing bonuses, one of which is 1.4m, and the other at 2.2m, which equals 12.4 mil over four years.

Where is my math going off course? This doesn't seem like the right way to go (which probably means I ran out of fingers to count), especially considering letting him go as a free agent after a two year contract, then resigning an aging vet for less, which could be under 2mil for another two years.

option one - 3.4 mil yr for 2 yrs
option two - 3.1 mil yr for 4 yrs

I guess you save .6mil but have to take on two extra years. Again this isn't factoring in a depreciating asset. sign for two, then sign for two more might only cost 1.5m/yr for those next two years. It seems like it all washes out in the end.
7/13/2011 6:31 PM
Good ol Gerard Arnell. 

Hope he does well for gregos.

Can't wait to headhunt him.
7/13/2011 6:39 PM
speedy = math fail.

Signing bonus = 25% of seasonal salary, one time, not once for each season. So it was $2.9M + $2.9M + 700K and change = roughly $6.5M to begin with. Actually $3.6M or so for one year (Season 10), because he never played a game at $2.9 in Season 9.
Re-signs for $2.2/yr + $550K signing bonus, saving him $700K (the signing bonus on the original contract for argument's sake) on Season 10.

It's like the first contract never happened, since he never played for $2.9M, and Gregos essentially got the $700K signing bonus back when Cannone took the pay cut for Season 10. He's basically starting a 4yr deal fresh for $9.35 including the signing bonus. Which is fair money for that guy.

And in the days when we had a $35M cap, maneuvering like that could save you $700K underneath it. Could do a lot with that.
7/13/2011 7:05 PM
*speed does the math walk of shame*
7/13/2011 7:35 PM
Bluez and Hornets are tied 6 minutes into pregame....
7/13/2011 7:37 PM

I do not like the SSS.


Seriously, 15?!

7/13/2011 8:38 PM
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