Did Palin make Bachmann viable? Topic

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Maybe the reason that it is not a real story is the way you are phrasing it.

She didnt buy votes!
 
She paid for the ballot fee for people voting for her. They do not get money for voting for her.

8/25/2011 7:56 PM
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Posted by jiml60 on 8/25/2011 2:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/24/2011 8:38:00 PM (view original):
Really...

Wallace, Anderson and Perot want to talk to you about it.
Really?  What's your definition of strong then?

In 1968, Wallace gained 13.5% of the popular vote and won one state (the only 3rd party candidate since 1948 to achieve that)
In 1980, Anderson gained 6.6% of the popular vote, no electoral votes.
In 1992, Perot made a strong showing in the popular vote with 18.9% but did not win any states.
In 1996, Perot ran again and dropped to 8%, no electoral votes.
In 2000, Nader only won 2.7% of the popular vote.

None of the above were able to sustain their modest showings 4 years later. 
That is my definition of strong. Enough that a major candidate would get less than 44%.

Anderson made it a landslide for Reagan, Wallace made it close for Humphrey, Perot took votes from both sides allowing people to say that Clinton never got 50%.

I am not implying any of them would win, but my 52-44% might not work if someone got even 6.6%.
8/25/2011 8:00 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 8/25/2011 5:10:00 PM (view original):
I'm gonna start quoting swampy for "news".   He's as good a source as rainbow shirt girl. 
You should turn towards Detroit and chant my quotes 3 times a day! My stuff should be on bumper stickers!
8/25/2011 8:01 PM
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To paraphrase George Bernard Shaw swamp......I am sitting in the smallest room of my house. Your "stuff" is in front of me. Shortly it will be behind me.
8/25/2011 8:07 PM
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ON THE CARS OF PATIENTS IN THE LUNATIC ASYLUM!

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Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/25/2011 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Maybe the reason that it is not a real story is the way you are phrasing it.

She didnt buy votes!
 
She paid for the ballot fee for people voting for her. They do not get money for voting for her.

Bachmann also paid Randy Travis to perform, and for Randy Travis' fans to be bused in.  And prior to enjoying the "free entertainment" those fans had to register with her and vote.  

But you are correct, she did not pay them cash to vote for her.
8/25/2011 8:28 PM
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Posted by crazystengel on 8/25/2011 7:00:00 PM (view original):
"Fox News Watch" showing how credible and honest they are at the 45 second mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG7rgX3vk4I

The difference between these cable news professionals and students at a school paper is that no one at the school paper has traded their integrity for a pay check.  They might be dumb, they might be inexperienced, they might dress badly -- but at this stage of their "careers" I think they're actually trying to be honest and credible. Could anyone say the same of the people in the clip above?

I'm not gonna touch it....with a ten foot turban.  Awesome.  You are dead on CS.

8/26/2011 12:10 AM
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Posted by crazystengel on 8/25/2011 7:00:00 PM (view original):
"Fox News Watch" showing how credible and honest they are at the 45 second mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG7rgX3vk4I

The difference between these cable news professionals and students at a school paper is that no one at the school paper has traded their integrity for a pay check.  They might be dumb, they might be inexperienced, they might dress badly -- but at this stage of their "careers" I think they're actually trying to be honest and credible. Could anyone say the same of the people in the clip above?
WOW!   Another station reporting on a rival station for not reporting on a scandal involving the owner of said station.   SHOCKING!!!!

I'd list some "news" that The Maneater failed to cover but that would require some research into a student newspaper.  I'm just not going to do that.    Let's just say I don't think it's a big deal when a station doesn't report on a topic.   Especially one involving the owner, or one of his other businesses, of that station. 
8/26/2011 8:05 AM
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DO IT, MIKEY!
8/26/2011 2:03 PM
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I can't.   But here's a link for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMk_OYEQW7U
8/26/2011 2:16 PM
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Posted by crazystengel on 8/25/2011 8:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 8/25/2011 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Maybe the reason that it is not a real story is the way you are phrasing it.

She didnt buy votes!
 
She paid for the ballot fee for people voting for her. They do not get money for voting for her.

Bachmann also paid Randy Travis to perform, and for Randy Travis' fans to be bused in.  And prior to enjoying the "free entertainment" those fans had to register with her and vote.  

But you are correct, she did not pay them cash to vote for her.
They had to "promise" to vote for her.

Not a bad deal.
8/27/2011 1:15 PM
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"Here's some tickets to a Randy Travis concert, here's a free bus ride to the concert, here's some free food and drinks.  All I ask in return is that you promise to vote for me."  

Yes, when you put it that way, it doesn't seem at all sleazy or borderline criminal.
8/27/2011 6:52 PM
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8/28/2011 3:18 AM
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Posted by crazystengel on 8/27/2011 6:53:00 PM (view original):
"Here's some tickets to a Randy Travis concert, here's a free bus ride to the concert, here's some free food and drinks.  All I ask in return is that you promise to vote for me."  

Yes, when you put it that way, it doesn't seem at all sleazy or borderline criminal.
Everyone had entertainment and free food.

Why is it so important for you to make this appear bad for Bachmann?
8/28/2011 5:52 AM
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Please Peggy, would you not do the same thing if a liberal had done it? Of course you would, now shut up and get back to the phones!
8/28/2011 10:30 AM
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