Like I said, I'm not saying the people you call idiots are not idiots. Just that you don't have to repeatedly call them idiots. We all know what you think of them. They know what you think of them.

All valid points.

Posted by wylie715 on 1/10/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 12:47:00 PM (view original):
Not all people just tang and bad_luck

tang believes that people who cannot afford kids should still have them and then complains that they cannot care for them. He also claims that all Christians are pacifists. Tough not fire back at him.

bad_luck stated that Ben Shapiro is a white supremacist and then tripled down on it. He deserves what he gets.

All PRACTICING Christians are pacifist.

that is a fairly ridiculous statement

Perhaps so........... but the whole concept baffles me........... what are they practicing? They've been at it for a thousand years and they don't seem to be getting any better at it........... Still hateful, warlike, judgmental, and stupid-simple............ still fighting over "which Jesus?"

It's shirking responsibility I think. Wanting something else to provide easy answers for them. Guide the way so the "believer" doesn't have to make hard choices.
But that's just my view........... from my angle. Which is apparently warped somehow. For instance, I think I'm funny sometimes. Post inside jokes in many of my comments that I think are hilarious. Nobody EVER even gets 'em..............
That's what happens when you're a liberally conservative anarchist.

You need to ask tang these questions.

maybe you need to post jokes that aren't inside jokes too

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/10/2018 7:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/9/2018 10:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/9/2018 10:19:00 PM (view original):
Parents definitely play a large role. I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that. I am a firm believer; however, that your environment only defines you if you allow it. It's a choice.

The disadvantages that blacks have had to face over the last 200 years have been compounding the entire time.

Some have been lucky enough to move up but it’s extremely ignorant to pretend that everyone could just choose to move up in life.

No, see that's where you're wrong. It's ignorant and down right dangerous to act like people can't just choose to move up in life.

Moving up in life is not a matter of luck. Everyone has an equal playing field. I know you disagree with this, but tell me one way that blacks are at a disadvantage. I'm going to wager that you can't come up with one.

I'm not saying people can't move up. I'm saying that merely being born black puts you at a disadvantage.

There are lots of examples of this.

For instance, in most jobs, there is no hard metric that can be used to separate average/good/great workers. So, outside of basic qualifications, deciding who gets hired and who gets promoted often comes down to the gut feelings of the person (or people) doing the hiring. Those gut feelings are heavily influenced by all kinds of factors including how well the hiring manager relates to the candidates.

In general, a white hiring manager is going to relate best to another white person. And since most hiring managers are whites, and have been whites for over a century, whites are the ones getting hired/promoted.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 4:30:00 PM (view original):
I can only speak for me but I never look at race/gender/age. I look for the most qualified person. Period. I do not believe in white privilege. Nor do I believe that because someone is a difference race/gender/age they are less qualified. That is a horrifying thought. As I said 75% of the NBA is African American. No one cries for equality. Best players get to play. I feel the same way about workers in my industry.

I understand that others may feel differently but I would wager there are more that think like me than those that think that a certain race/gender/age makes one a better hire.

I'm not calling anyone racist. I'm not saying that anyone is doing this consciously.

I'm saying it's human nature. You tend to like and want to be around people you relate to and, because people usually relate best to people that are similar to them, race inevitably becomes a factor. And that's today, a relatively progressive time. Even as recently as 25 years ago, that disadvantage was a lot less accidental.

There's a reason that there will soon be only 3 black CEO's of Fortune 500 companies and it isn't because black people aren't smart and don't work hard.

Regarding the NBA, that's a situation where determining who is actually most qualified is very cut and dry.

Boards pick CEOs. I cannot opine on that. A lot of it is who you know vs. what you know. As I said the NBA is 75% black.

The real issue is how many African American students attend Ivy League or equivalent schools. Generally CEOs come from that background. Pedigree does matter. At least in my industry and I DO look at that when I hire. If you, bad_luck are from Harvard and wylie wen't to Ohio State, you would have a material advantage in the beginning.

Regardless of race/gender/age.

Posted by bad_luck on 1/10/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Regarding the NBA, that's a situation where determining who is actually most qualified is very cut and dry.

To you. People will argue the same for CEOs. They are experts in their field...running a huge company and believe that certain people are better built for it. Most CEOs have sociopath tendencies. Sort of like most serial killers are white males too....

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Boards pick CEOs. I cannot opine on that. A lot of it is who you know vs. what you know. As I said the NBA is 75% black.

The real issue is how many African American students attend Ivy League or equivalent schools. Generally CEOs come from that background. Pedigree does matter. At least in my industry and I DO look at that when I hire. If you, bad_luck are from Harvard and wylie wen't to Ohio State, you would have a material advantage in the beginning.

Regardless of race/gender/age.

No one is hiring CEOs straight out of college.

Posted by bad_luck on 1/10/2018 4:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Boards pick CEOs. I cannot opine on that. A lot of it is who you know vs. what you know. As I said the NBA is 75% black.

The real issue is how many African American students attend Ivy League or equivalent schools. Generally CEOs come from that background. Pedigree does matter. At least in my industry and I DO look at that when I hire. If you, bad_luck are from Harvard and wylie wen't to Ohio State, you would have a material advantage in the beginning.

Regardless of race/gender/age.

No one is hiring CEOs straight out of college.

You missed my point. They have the pedigree to get an early start at a corporation and be mentored for that role. Promoted easier or transfer easier to another company with experience. I am not hiring new college grads. I may hire someone with 20 years of experience but if that someone has an Ivy League education or equivalent, say Stanford or Duke then they will have a material advantage over someone who went to UGA. They can come in as a Senior Manager. My last boss went to Dartmouth. He left our company for a smaller one as the #3 guy and then when it came to pick a CEO he was chosen by the board, largely due to his pedigree as others had similar years of experience.

Do you understand what I am saying here?

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/10/2018 4:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Boards pick CEOs. I cannot opine on that. A lot of it is who you know vs. what you know. As I said the NBA is 75% black.

The real issue is how many African American students attend Ivy League or equivalent schools. Generally CEOs come from that background. Pedigree does matter. At least in my industry and I DO look at that when I hire. If you, bad_luck are from Harvard and wylie wen't to Ohio State, you would have a material advantage in the beginning.

Regardless of race/gender/age.

No one is hiring CEOs straight out of college.

You missed my point. They have the pedigree to get an early start at a corporation and be mentored for that role. Promoted easier or transfer easier to another company with experience. I am not hiring new college grads. I may hire someone with 20 years of experience but if that someone has an Ivy League education or equivalent, say Stanford or Duke then they will have a material advantage over someone who went to UGA. They can come in as a Senior Manager. My last boss went to Dartmouth. He left our company for a smaller one as the #3 guy and then when it came to pick a CEO he was chosen by the board, largely due to his pedigree as others had similar years of experience.

Do you understand what I am saying here?

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They have the pedigree.

They are white and wealthy and went to Ivy League schools where they met other wealthy white people.

an early start at a corporation and be mentored for that role

Because of the connections they have due to being a wealthy, white, Ivy League attendees.

Promoted easier or transfer easier to another company with experience

All set up by the start they got because they were wealthy white people.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/10/2018 1:51:00 PM (view original):
So in the 2 million soldiers we have none are practicing Christians? LOL

Correct.