Posted by dahsdebater on 3/5/2019 1:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/4/2019 10:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/4/2019 7:18:00 PM (view original):
cccp, you do realize that not being in favor of every thing Israel does is not necessarily the same thing as being anti-semitic, right? Israel has done some things I was not in favor of, but I am not anti-semitic.

Some sure but do you believe it is an evil and oppressive regime?

So just to clarify - if you do believe that the Israeli government is at least oppressive, would that make you anti-semitic? I'm not sure I'd say that, but I don't think it's an unreasonable response to the historical treatment of Palestinians under Israeli rule. Would acknowledging that fact make one anti-semitic? Does pointing out that the crusades were a wildly unnecessary waste of human life make one anti-Christian?

Because in the Middle East you have terror countries like KSA, Iran, Iraq, etc. who are the MOST oppressive and treat women worse than dirt, kill dogs and kill gays. The safest place for a Moslem woman to live in the ME is in Israel. So all this BDS crap is just a disguise for antisemitism. No one is proposing BDS vs. Turkey are they?

I AM dying on this hill. Happy to debate this ALL day.

Well, I'm a federal employee, so I can't overtly debate politics at work. And I don't disagree with you that condemning one bad government and not another is likely to be a cover for ulterior motives.

What I am saying is that somebody else being worse doesn't have to make Israel good. Again, I'm not even embracing a position on the Israeli government here. But this is the same logic as replying to criticisms of Trump's character or questionable actions by attacking Hillary and Obama, an extremely popular debate tactic of the far right in recent years. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if somebody else is worse. That doesn't excuse Israel, Trump, or anyone else to do whatever bad stuff they want as long as it's a least one level below their peers in the eye of some beholder.

I would not characterize the Israeli government as evil or oppressive. I can see why someone might. And that doesn't necessarily make them anti-semitic.

Posted by bagchucker on 3/5/2019 12:32:00 AM (view original):
all regimes are oppressive to someone

all regimes are evil to someone

palestine got screwed over but the arabs had their chance

they shoulda won that 67 war

its settled law as far as i'm concerned

it was settled law first in 1947.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/5/2019 9:21:00 AM (view original):
Topic of the day: Hawaii legislature has proposed a bill that would raise the age to buy cigarettes to 100. Is this government overreach? Why or why not?

there's no such thing as government overreach

yer in the maw of a carnivore



vote for gums not teeth

Posted by dino27 on 3/5/2019 10:14:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bagchucker on 3/5/2019 12:32:00 AM (view original):
all regimes are oppressive to someone

all regimes are evil to someone

palestine got screwed over but the arabs had their chance

they shoulda won that 67 war

its settled law as far as i'm concerned

it was settled law first in 1947.

anyone immigrant can make a homeland

the trick is to keep it

the bhagwan shree rajneesh came to the high desert with his charles manson john lennon bodyguard harem

and got his butt kicked

no homeland for him

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/5/2019 9:21:00 AM (view original):
Topic of the day: Hawaii legislature has proposed a bill that would raise the age to buy cigarettes to 100. Is this government overreach? Why or why not?

Overreach.

if there's one thing hawaii can use its another black market

gives the strivin poor a opportunity to achieve the american dream

course its only cigs not fentanyl, so they won't have no protection from big pharma cops and courts

Posted by tangplay on 3/5/2019 11:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/5/2019 9:21:00 AM (view original):
Topic of the day: Hawaii legislature has proposed a bill that would raise the age to buy cigarettes to 100. Is this government overreach? Why or why not?

Overreach.

Agreed. They can then do the same with soda, which is awful for you.

how about a nice Hawaiian punch.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/5/2019 9:21:00 AM (view original):
Topic of the day: Hawaii legislature has proposed a bill that would raise the age to buy cigarettes to 100. Is this government overreach? Why or why not?

that's a stupid law in my opinion. Why not just make cigarettes illegal? But hey, if someone wants to give themselves a good chance of dying of cancer, it is not the government's job to stop them.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/5/2019 9:21:00 AM (view original):
Topic of the day: Hawaii legislature has proposed a bill that would raise the age to buy cigarettes to 100. Is this government overreach? Why or why not?

BULLSHIT!

i am distressed by redlining.
i have never seen such a thing before.
it happens.

I used the same word "our" President used and I offended him. To bad we can not redline Trump.

you served in the army.....you can use any language you want any time you want...sir...
and i mean it.