Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

yeah but he made three bucks on his lawsuit.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 10:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

USFL was succeeding until they moved to the fall... under Trump. I read Jerry Argovitz's 'Super Agent' book a while back. He called out Trump.

ESPN was lined up for a 70 million dollar TV deal, the fans wanted to stay in the spring, the NFL literally said that the only way they can beat the USFL is if they moved to the fall, I could go on and on. Trump tore it all down because he wanted to own an NFL team in New York. Art of the deal my ***.

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 10:37:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 10:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

USFL was succeeding until they moved to the fall... under Trump. I read Jerry Argovitz's 'Super Agent' book a while back. He called out Trump.

yup. I actually had season tickets in Oakland. he wanted to take on the big boys....and failed

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 10:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

not to mention comparing the USFL and XFL is silly.

Posted by The Taint on 1/19/2018 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 10:37:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 10:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

USFL was succeeding until they moved to the fall... under Trump. I read Jerry Argovitz's 'Super Agent' book a while back. He called out Trump.

yup. I actually had season tickets in Oakland. he wanted to take on the big boys....and failed

They were hitting good markets. It's kinda sad. The USFL would have been a fun league.

Posted by The Taint on 1/19/2018 10:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 10:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

not to mention comparing the USFL and XFL is silly.

Also Also he is forgetting the AFL.

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 10:41:00 AM (view original):
ESPN was lined up for a 70 million dollar TV deal, the fans wanted to stay in the spring, the NFL literally said that the only way they can beat the USFL is if they moved to the fall, I could go on and on. Trump tore it all down because he wanted to own an NFL team in New York. Art of the deal my ***.

Proof?

Posted by The Taint on 1/19/2018 10:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 10:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):
One thing that does not get talked about much is the USFL. Trump killed that ****

USFL
XFL

All doomed. NFL is a dominant brand.

not to mention comparing the USFL and XFL is silly.

Why?

Because one was a legit league with real money behind it that signed world class talent.


The other was a gimmick.

I am too young to remember the USFL. I recall they had Kelly, Flutie and Walker. I did see the ESPN 30 for 30 on it. I will defer to you on this. I clearly remember the sh*t show that was the XFL.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 11:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/19/2018 10:41:00 AM (view original):
ESPN was lined up for a 70 million dollar TV deal, the fans wanted to stay in the spring, the NFL literally said that the only way they can beat the USFL is if they moved to the fall, I could go on and on. Trump tore it all down because he wanted to own an NFL team in New York. Art of the deal my ***.

Proof?

Jerry Argovitz wrote it in his book. Do you not believe a self-made Jew?

NFL.com also made a great video about it.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/19/2018 11:26:00 AM (view original):
I am too young to remember the USFL. I recall they had Kelly, Flutie and Walker. I did see the ESPN 30 for 30 on it. I will defer to you on this. I clearly remember the sh*t show that was the XFL.

I was not even born but they had some serious talent, and they had money. They also created free agency and more power for players which incentivized people to jump ship. The XFL was just a gimmick that had no chance.

It was 30 years ago. Sh*t happens.