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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:17:00 PM (view original):
What is the difference if you cannot get one due to health or do not want to get one because you are concerned it will create an issue? I am playing devils advocate as I actually agree with you and my kids are vaccinated. 4
One can't get one or they die, one chooses not to get one because they are ********?
They are kids, so their parents are "********" but what if the parent had another child who had severe complications from the vaccines and now with this one is worried the same thing will happen. Will you really force them to get a vaccine for that child?
Yes. What are 'severe complications from vaccines'?
Death

Each year, American babies (1 year old and younger) receive more than 10 million vaccinations. During the first year of life, a significant number of babies suffer serious, life-threatening illnesses and medical events, such as Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Additionally, it is during the first year that congenital conditions may become evident.
Is that a complication from the vaccine or a result of young babies being vulnerable?
3/6/2019 3:01 PM
IDK....but as a parent I am concerned. My baby was fine, got the vaccines and died. I don't want to give my 2nd one vaccines. What happens?

3/6/2019 3:04 PM
I suggest the next debate topic to be the 14th Amendment. That one will get lively.
3/6/2019 3:05 PM
you don give the 2nd kid the shot

but you don invent strange science to back up your play

you say Life is hard and i made a decision
3/6/2019 3:07 PM
Posted by bagchucker on 3/6/2019 3:07:00 PM (view original):
you don give the 2nd kid the shot

but you don invent strange science to back up your play

you say Life is hard and i made a decision
Ahhh but tang and bl say the decision should not be that of the parents.
3/6/2019 3:10 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 1:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 1:52:00 PM (view original):
I'll answer it again:

I am for vaccines but I don't think it is fair to force someone to do something to their body that they or in this case their parents don't want to do. Abortion literally kills a life but I am pro choice because I don't believe a woman should have to be forced to do with her body what she doesn't want to do. I am not sure what you're not understanding. My beliefs are based on personal experiences many times, you are correct. Why is that so wrong?

I had both my kids vaccinated.
Your personal experiences are limited and often not fully representive of the larger issue.
I am in my 40s. Not that limited, LOL.
You have met and talked to a fraction of the total people in the USA.
And? Sometimes a fraction is all takes to form an opinion.
That doesn't mean that it is the right one.
An opinion cannot be wrong.
This opinion is a blatant example of how incorrect this opinion is.
3/6/2019 3:11 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 3:04:00 PM (view original):
IDK....but as a parent I am concerned. My baby was fine, got the vaccines and died. I don't want to give my 2nd one vaccines. What happens?

You should be forced to. There is no evidence that the baby's death was due to vaccines.
3/6/2019 3:12 PM
A fact is a statement that can be proven true or false. An opinion is an expression of a person's feelings that cannot be proven.
3/6/2019 3:18 PM
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 3:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 3:04:00 PM (view original):
IDK....but as a parent I am concerned. My baby was fine, got the vaccines and died. I don't want to give my 2nd one vaccines. What happens?

You should be forced to. There is no evidence that the baby's death was due to vaccines.
Works for me. IDC tbh.

3/6/2019 3:18 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 1:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 3/6/2019 11:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Whatever. This is getting old. If you want a thread where we throw shots at one another create one. I will respect KO and try to keep it civil. Gladly throw shots with you, Tang, bl and dino any day. Just create the thread.
im sorry but i cant let that go when it was you who created the original lack of civility and i will go out on a limb to say that strikeout understands my reasoning for redlining better now.
stay in your lane bro and dont start to lecture others on civility.
KO then asked me to stop. So if you want to go toe to toe do it in a different thread was all I said. Had you asked me to stop in your thread I would have. "Stay in my lane"? LOL thanks Lavar.
you were asked to stop..you would not...i even said dont start....i explained the rules of the thread at the outset.
3/6/2019 3:26 PM
everything is not about the law

sometimes you gotta do elsewise
3/6/2019 3:28 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/6/2019 10:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Whatever. This is getting old. If you want a thread where we throw shots at one another create one. I will respect KO and try to keep it civil. Gladly throw shots with you, Tang, bl and dino any day. Just create the thread.
?

No one is throwing shots at you. The topic is should vaccines be mandated. You seem to think the answer is no. It’s yes.
You seem to think that because you think the answer should be yes, everyone should think that. Not saying whether vaccinations should be mandated or not. Just saying you should be more open minded. Everyone should be.
3/6/2019 3:40 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 1:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 1:52:00 PM (view original):
I'll answer it again:

I am for vaccines but I don't think it is fair to force someone to do something to their body that they or in this case their parents don't want to do. Abortion literally kills a life but I am pro choice because I don't believe a woman should have to be forced to do with her body what she doesn't want to do. I am not sure what you're not understanding. My beliefs are based on personal experiences many times, you are correct. Why is that so wrong?

I had both my kids vaccinated.
Your personal experiences are limited and often not fully representive of the larger issue.
I am in my 40s. Not that limited, LOL.
You have met and talked to a fraction of the total people in the USA.
And? Sometimes a fraction is all takes to form an opinion.
you can form an opinion based on anything, or nothing.
3/6/2019 3:44 PM
True you certainly can.
3/6/2019 4:00 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/6/2019 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 2:17:00 PM (view original):
What is the difference if you cannot get one due to health or do not want to get one because you are concerned it will create an issue? I am playing devils advocate as I actually agree with you and my kids are vaccinated. 4
One can't get one or they die, one chooses not to get one because they are ********?
They are kids, so their parents are "********" but what if the parent had another child who had severe complications from the vaccines and now with this one is worried the same thing will happen. Will you really force them to get a vaccine for that child?
Yes. What are 'severe complications from vaccines'?
Death

Each year, American babies (1 year old and younger) receive more than 10 million vaccinations. During the first year of life, a significant number of babies suffer serious, life-threatening illnesses and medical events, such as Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Additionally, it is during the first year that congenital conditions may become evident.
None of that has been linked to vaccines.

Especially congenital conditions which are by definition genetic.
3/6/2019 5:15 PM
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