Posted by dino27 on 2/24/2020 8:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 2/24/2020 8:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 2/24/2020 12:21:00 AM (view original):
Clinton and Obama pardoned more than their share of dirtbags too. Way more...Trump is hardly the first. There is evidence that Stone's judge had it in for him, and that worse offenders received lighter punishment. He may yet receive a new trial.

Was that before or after he ignored her gag order? Before or after he posted a picture of her in crosshairs? Roger Stone is a piece of ****. Always has been. Maybe he should have, you know, not lied to Congress or broken the rules set by the judge. His defense was basically "so what?".

with all due respect some comments dont deserve a response...just too deaf dumb and blind.

You’d think I’d be smarter by now....

You? Yes. Him? Um, no...

Tout Bernie all you want. Come November he is toast. The rats are already starting to abandon the ship.

He must be way off shore to the Left if MSNBC won't endorse him.

I certainly do not feel the Bern

redistribution reprostitution.
all labels trying to get to calling something communism.
a fair tax structure is part of capitalism.
thats what we do in the usa.

Posted by dino27 on 2/24/2020 6:20:00 PM (view original):
taxes are a portion ..not the whole thing.
gee whiz.

You think it doesn't still make a difference?

I'm a Ph.D.-level chemist. I work for the Federal government at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the national measurement laboratory, ostensibly to provide research support for American industry. It's a job with a reasonably high societal value.

Next Wednesday is my last day. I'm going to stay at home and take care of my daughter. In the DC metro area, after taxes and childcare, the salary the federal government pays younger scientists would have left me with a take-home income of ~$10k. In order to get $25k of take-home I'd need to find somebody to pay me pretty close to $100k. That's not likely to happen in this area, and my wife's job won't allow her to move at the moment, so I'm probably not working again in the near future. It turns out that this is fine with me. I want to take care of my daughter. But even with our relatively light tax burden in this country, middle class workers can already have poor incentive to work under what are fairly standard circumstances. I don't even have multiple kids to pay for.

I suppose one could argue that thinning the workforce makes the job market more sustainable as more and more service-sector jobs are automated. But the reality is, the currently-automated jobs probably pay in a lower tax bracket, so the math is different. I don't think we're really at a point where we want to push educated workers out of the job market.

WhTs your point concretely there are always taxes no one wants your taxes raised

Posted by dahsdebater on 2/25/2020 12:33:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 2/24/2020 6:20:00 PM (view original):
taxes are a portion ..not the whole thing.
gee whiz.

You think it doesn't still make a difference?

I'm a Ph.D.-level chemist. I work for the Federal government at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the national measurement laboratory, ostensibly to provide research support for American industry. It's a job with a reasonably high societal value.

Next Wednesday is my last day. I'm going to stay at home and take care of my daughter. In the DC metro area, after taxes and childcare, the salary the federal government pays younger scientists would have left me with a take-home income of ~$10k. In order to get $25k of take-home I'd need to find somebody to pay me pretty close to $100k. That's not likely to happen in this area, and my wife's job won't allow her to move at the moment, so I'm probably not working again in the near future. It turns out that this is fine with me. I want to take care of my daughter. But even with our relatively light tax burden in this country, middle class workers can already have poor incentive to work under what are fairly standard circumstances. I don't even have multiple kids to pay for.

I suppose one could argue that thinning the workforce makes the job market more sustainable as more and more service-sector jobs are automated. But the reality is, the currently-automated jobs probably pay in a lower tax bracket, so the math is different. I don't think we're really at a point where we want to push educated workers out of the job market.

Being with your daughter is more important anyway IMO.
Cherish every moment.

In Arizona, one of the 3 or 4 largest supermarket options is Safeway. A large Corp. owned option.
We also have Wal-Mart, Albertson's, Frye's, Basha's (a State Corp.) and some other smaller options.

In my small town we have a serious employment issue. Not enough jobs by a large amount.
The unemployment rate among men has always been very high, at least for the last 25 years or so.
Many, many homes have the woman as the breadwinner, while the men do other things. Some assume the home keeper role, some find ways to keep busy hunting, fishing, guiding, etc.

Bottom line is, this area NEEDS jobs.

So, what's the latest corporate change at the grocery store?? Automated checkers!! Scan your groceries yourselves, no humans needed!!
Just F'ing Great!! Eliminate good paying checker positions and have the customers (and a computer!!) do the job.
Wal-Mart had already made this move several years ago! I refused to shop there!
NOW, they have to have gates on the self-check lane, and guards as you leave........... they check your receipt AND scan themselves one item from your grocery cart/bag to make sure the receipt matches the item. In other words, there are so many cheats, that Wal-mart has to employ someone to try and combat the dishonesty. THAT guy is lucky! He has a job, but about 25 - 30 checkers don't BECAUSE a corp. decided to replace THEM with a computer/automation.

Now, they're gonna ruin Safeway. Workers just have no value to a Corp. IF they can use a machine instead.
Corps. don't give a DAMN about your family, your community, your State, OR our Country.
That's WHY we do need a people's revolution.
We do need to say enough!!
LIVES MATTER. Color has nothing to do with it!!

STOP VOTING FOR THE TOOLS of Corporations and fatcats!!
Trump, Biden, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg are all tools for those folks.
Mayor Pete wants to be.

Bernie Sanders is not.
This year, that's maybe enough for me!

harv is not parve.
he will be given permission to produce some porn movies in jail and productions of the odd couple,
grumpy old men and west side story.

Jeff Stone’s mother was hot! Donna Reed

Food for thought regarding Stone's length of sentence, and Barr's involvement

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/opinions/barr-got-it-right-on-stone-opinion-schultz/index.html

Posted by dino27 on 2/25/2020 12:49:00 AM (view original):
WhTs your point concretely there are always taxes no one wants your taxes raised

bheid said

They don't get it. If the incentive to make money is to give it away then why bother?

You said

taxes are a portion ..not the whole thing.
gee whiz.

So I pointed out that taxes don't have to be at, or necessarily even close to, 100% of your income in order to dramatically change your incentive structure. It's already hard enough to take you seriously when you just respond to points with dismissive comments. It's even harder when your dismissive comments are contradictory.

i really dont understand what you are saying most of the time.
im not being dismissive.

im not contradictory.
noone wants taxes but we taxes.
a fair structure is the point.
help for people who need it is the other.
im not contradictory.
i really dont understand the point you are making most of the time and that is an honest statement.

Posted by winnetka1 on 2/25/2020 2:32:00 PM (view original):
Jeff Stone’s mother was hot! Donna Reed

that is really keen.