Wow, you must sharpen that political razor pretty close to splits hairs like that...

My point in calling it one account is of course they have multiple accounts, but they are one group. Jusr because you arrange your books so this money doesnt do this, the group as a whole is helped by Federal money and they are the largest single abortion provider in America!

My point here was to show the idiocy of the 3% number. It cannot be sustatined.

Posted by swamphawk22 on 4/24/2011 8:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 4/24/2011 3:10:00 PM (view original):
So by "isn't really correct" swampfuck means "mathematically accurate after rounding off decimals". Got it.

I do not mean that it isnt just not a small technical difference, but that it is inaccurate in a huge way.

So if the actual number is 25% and they said 3% they are off by about 8 times.

And if you said 90% and the actual number is 25% you are off by about 3 1/2 times.

So the good Congressman was actually more right than the lies the left has been spreading aobut PP.

And no one seems to care about that part!

None of this has anything to do with the fact that the Yankees represent about 3% of the total number of MLB franchises.

Never said that. I said the Yankees represent 3% of baseball teams.

You would never look at it like that because the yankees are a major league team.

PP took everyone that walks in and does anything. Gets surgery, gets an aids test or picks up a pamphlet and used that to determine that 3% of their effort goes to abortions.

It is clearly incorrect. Just like 90% is inaccurate.

Since both sides are juggling the numbers I dont see any reason to focus more on one than the other!

Posted by swamphawk22 on 4/25/2011 2:47:00 PM (view original):
Never said that. I said the Yankees represent 3% of baseball teams.

You would never look at it like that because the yankees are a major league team.

PP took everyone that walks in and does anything. Gets surgery, gets an aids test or picks up a pamphlet and used that to determine that 3% of their effort goes to abortions.

It is clearly incorrect. Just like 90% is inaccurate.

Since both sides are juggling the numbers I dont see any reason to focus more on one than the other!

Posted by swamphawk22 on 4/25/2011 2:47:00 PM:
Never said that. I said the Yankees represent 3% of baseball teams.

This is really taking out of context.

I said never said that in response to someone who said I siad that Yankees are 3% of the major league baseball teams in NY. I said 3% of the TEAMS. 3% of all teams.

I was trying to show that you cannot determine value by adding all the people that walk through the door and dividing. Abortions represent a large portion of what PP does.

So 3% is inaccurate. 90% is innaccurate.

Lets try to find the truth...woops I forgot the last thing you want in inteligent conversation on a mainstream topic.

So basically, if I can untangle your incoherence, what you're saying is that to Planned Parenthood things like birth control pills and AIDS tests are semi-pro beer league teams while abortion is the Yankees.

I think, in his own swampy way, he's saying that the guy who picks up a 3 pack of condoms from PP counts the same as a "customer" as the bimbo that gets an abortion.   I'll assume a 3 pack of condoms is a fraction of the cost of an abortion.

Actually someone who comes in and picks up a pamphlet counts the same as someone who gets an abortion. That is crazy.

The 3% is BS. The 90% is BS.

The difference is one side admitted their error and one side didnt!

swamp, you keep saying "picking up a pamphlet" counts in PP's tally. What is your source for this lie?

The 3% figure comes from the chart below, which is measuring total number of services delivered to actual clients.



As this Christianity Today article notes, clients can receive multiple services. Measuring by total clients, the abortion figure rises to around 10%.

Measuring by revenue produces a similar number:

Thirty-seven percent of Planned Parenthood's revenue comes from its health centers; potentially one-third of this health center revenue comes from abortion. Planned Parenthood does not list revenue from specific procedures, but pro-life activists estimate that around 10 percent of the organization's revenue comes from abortion. In other words, pro-life groups' best guess is that around one-third of one-third of the revenue comes from abortion.

So if you want to say that abortions represent 10% of PP's business, I wouldn't argue. That's a rational, defensible argument.

90% is a lie. "Most" is a lie.

I'd be wiling to wager that an abortion costs 10 times more than the amount for a pack of condoms.

That's nice. Do you have a point?

Sure.  More money goes to abortions than contraception. 

That would only make sense if there were as many abortions as there were condoms.

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/26/2011 10:08:00 AM (view original):
Sure.  More money goes to abortions than contraception. 

On a per transaction basis, sure. Thanks for contributing.