hopefully we can get through those 3 round 3 picks today.. then I think we should start with a schedule something like this tomorrow.. If we don't get those 3 picks done we can add times at 8:30 9 and 9:30 tomorrow to allow them to pick.

Wed 8/17		Round 4
10:00	49	jayharvill
10:30	50	all3
11:00	51	steelers821
11:30	52	imahobbit
12:00	53	xxevilivexx
12:30	54	logain
1:00	55	sweg
1:30	56	badja
2:00	57	longtallbrad
2:30	58	ashamael
3:00	59	sappy
3:30	60	snydpie
4:00	61	garyman
4:30	62	dh555
5:00	63	malone9975
5:30	64	empdenied
Thur 8/18	Round 5
10:00	65	empdenied
10:30	66	malone9975
11:00	67	dh555
11:30	68	garyman
12:00	69	snydpie
12:30	70	sappy
1:00	71	ashamael
1:30	72	longtallbrad
2:00	73	badja
2:30	74	sweg
3:00	75	logain
3:30	76	xxevilivexx
4:00	77	imahobbit
4:30	78	steelers821
5:00	79	all3
5:30	80	jayharvill
Fri 8/19	Round 6
10:00	81	jayharvill
10:30	82	all3
11:00	83	steelers821
11:30	84	imahobbit
12:00	85	xxevilivexx
12:30	86	logain
1:00	87	sweg
1:30	88	badja
2:00	89	longtallbrad
2:30	90	ashamael
3:00	91	sappy
3:30	92	snydpie
4:00	93	garyman
4:30	94	dh555
5:00	95	malone9975
5:30	96	empdenied
Sat 8/20	Round 7
10:00	97	empdenied
10:30	98	malone9975
11:00	99	dh555
11:30	100	garyman
12:00	101	snydpie
12:30	102	sappy
1:00	103	ashamael
1:30	104	longtallbrad
2:00	105	badja
2:30	106	sweg
3:00	107	logain
3:30	108	xxevilivexx
4:00	109	imahobbit
4:30	110	steelers821
5:00	111	all3
5:30	112	jayharvill
Sun 8/21	Round 8
10:00	113	jayharvill
10:30	114	all3
11:00	115	steelers821
11:30	116	imahobbit
12:00	117	xxevilivexx
12:30	118	logain
1:00	119	sweg
1:30	120	badja
2:00	121	longtallbrad
2:30	122	ashamael
3:00	123	sappy
3:30	124	snydpie
4:00	125	garyman
4:30	126	dh555
5:00	127	malone9975
5:30	128	empdenied

I will pick STEVE NASH for the pick and role. Great passer and will have space of the pick to shoot with is great shooting ability. Sorry for being late don't have time to to post career achivements I know next pick tom at 11

That schedule is not official - just a suggestion at this point. About the right place for nash to go.

dh555:  Elgin Baylor, Dirk Nowitzki, Wilt Chamberlain 

I think I’m mostly reserving my opinion until I see the rest of the starting lineup in place.  There is potential for dominance here, and also potential for overkill with two high-volume lead scorers.  I do think that Baylor’s presence helps offset Nowitzki’s light rebounding in this league.  The backcourt needs to be assembled carefully since someone will need to know how to feed these three monsters in ways that play to their strengths, and you don’t really want to diminish Wilt’s touches further.  He still needs to be a threat to go off for 40 or 50, which won’t be the case if he never sees the ball.

garyman:  Magic Johnson, John Havlicek, Willis Reed

Magic should be awesome in this league, and needs the right horses to run with.  Havlicek went pretty high in my opinion, but he fits with Magic in that he can run all day and Is a selfless passer.  It’s just that his stats are deceptively inflated because of the high volume of minutes he played, and (like Baylor) isn’t an efficient shooter by today’s standards.  Reed and Hondo together provide plenty of gritty toughness, hustle, defense, and determined scoring. 

snydpie:  Jason Kidd, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon
Hakeem is great, Kidd was a steal, and Ewing belongs in this league but could have been available lower.  The Olajuwon-Kidd pairing makes sense – I can see them flying on the break together, if you use youngish versions of each.  Younger Kidd is the open-court magician who runs like a deer and plays shut-down defense.  Older Kidd is slower and gets burned more often but is much more of a shooting threat, so you need to pick your poison and build the rest of the team accordingly.  I’m not sold on Ewing and Olajuwon playing side by side since both were natural centers.  As he grew older Ewing evolved into a chronic jump shooter so it may be that he can effectively stay out of Hakeem’s way in the low post, but on defense he would be giving up some footspeed to some power forwards in this league. 

The schedule looks good to me.... 30 minute time slots would cause chaos, though.

So if my time slot passes, then I get skipped by the guy drafting me, does the next owner need to wait until his time slot to pick or can he pick straight away as long as the guy in front of him has picked? We've drafted both ways before here and I can never figure out which one we do.

And I also don't care for the coach's round - it would just drag this out even longer.

We could draft coaches in the 8th round along with our last player. I am not sure the coaching playing field is at all level though. Maybe if we included college coaches also. 

But, I'd rather just not do it.

Posted by garyman on 8/16/2011 10:43:00 AM (view original):
The schedule looks good to me.... 30 minute time slots would cause chaos, though.

So if my time slot passes, then I get skipped by the guy drafting me, does the next owner need to wait until his time slot to pick or can he pick straight away as long as the guy in front of him has picked? We've drafted both ways before here and I can never figure out which one we do.

And I also don't care for the coach's round - it would just drag this out even longer.

Yeah, decisions for people besides me. I couldn't see going to 16 hours of drafting with 1 hour slots.. and didn't want to only do 8 picks a day. Thus the 30 min slots.

I'm Drafting this guy because "He Got Game".  He shoots better from 3 than many SGs shoot period, he passes well enough to play PG in a pinch, he'll rebound when needed, and he gets to the line a fair amount (and never misses).
                                                                                                                                        RAY ALLEN

Since I'm not going to be unable to check for the next few hours, and jharvill already has Payton, I'm also going to go ahead and draft 
                                                                                                                                 DEREK HARPER. 
He continues the efficient offense theme, both with his shooting and his relatively low TOs.  He plays good D, and was the model of consistency from season to season in his Dallas days.

I'm sad to see Nash, Allen and Harper go.  I considered taking Allen over Drexler.  There's nothing spectacular about Harper, but by the fourth round in this league most of us should filling in the cracks.  A bit high for him, but understandable.

If Allen would have been there for me I would have snagged him

I was going to take Allen or Miller with my last pick, but both were on the board still so I gambled that one of them would make it back to me. OH WELL!

30 minute slots would make a lot of people get skipped. At least a few a day.. 16 one hour slots might work, though. It would be easier to stay ahead of schedule...at least for a little bit until the first guy got skipped.. Start earlier, say 8am and finish at midnight. People can always sitemail a proxy (as long as they check the site at least once a day). I don't know if that would work....

For the skipping thing, I would say wait until your time slot to pick, since we'd be on the clock anyway and just in case the skipped guy shows up. The draft would be over on Sunday at the latest, regardless.. Those are just my suggestions.

I can go with either 30- or 60-minute increments.  I actually suspect that no matter which we do, the draft will go faster than the schedule suggests because guys will know they have to be paying attention. 

garyman:  Magic Johnson, John Havlicek, Willis Reed Magic should be awesome in this league, and needs the right horses to run with.  Havlicek went pretty high in my opinion, but he fits with Magic in that he can run all day and Is a selfless passer.  It’s just that his stats are deceptively inflated because of the high volume of minutes he played, and (like Baylor) isn’t an efficient shooter by today’s standards.  Reed and Hondo together provide plenty of gritty toughness, hustle, defense, and determined scoring.
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Havlicek went right where he should have, imo. The only other guys I considered at that time were Elgin and McHale. I really thought hard about this decision and reread Simmons' chapter on Hondo and then read Elgin's. Although Elgin's stats were higher, Hondo's rings (8), AS game appearances (13), Finals MVP (1), and all-defensive team selections (8, 5 1st team) made me choose him..

Elgin's lack of rings didn't help him, either. In the end, it was basically rings, 'ships, and clutch play over crazy, insane numbers.

**edit: Hondo went too late, actually - I might get sh!t for this but I don't think he should be drafted after Ewing, Stockton, Isiah, McAdoo, Howard or Gilmore. The more I learn about him the more I realize how awesome of a player he really was.

From Simmons: "Other than Malone and Kareem, nobody played at a higher level for a longer and more durable time. Other than Russell and (a player not yet drafted), nobody won more titles. Other than Jordan and Bird nobody had more memorable clutch moments. Other than Magic and West, nobody did a better job of reinventing his game as the years passed. Behind Bird, Magic, Russell, and Duncan, he might rank fifth on the Winnability Scale. Only Russell and Jordan came through more times for championship teams."

Posted by longtallbrad on 8/16/2011 10:39:00 AM (view original):

dh555:  Elgin Baylor, Dirk Nowitzki, Wilt Chamberlain 

I think I’m mostly reserving my opinion until I see the rest of the starting lineup in place.  There is potential for dominance here, and also potential for overkill with two high-volume lead scorers.  I do think that Baylor’s presence helps offset Nowitzki’s light rebounding in this league.  The backcourt needs to be assembled carefully since someone will need to know how to feed these three monsters in ways that play to their strengths, and you don’t really want to diminish Wilt’s touches further.  He still needs to be a threat to go off for 40 or 50, which won’t be the case if he never sees the ball.

garyman:  Magic Johnson, John Havlicek, Willis Reed

Magic should be awesome in this league, and needs the right horses to run with.  Havlicek went pretty high in my opinion, but he fits with Magic in that he can run all day and Is a selfless passer.  It’s just that his stats are deceptively inflated because of the high volume of minutes he played, and (like Baylor) isn’t an efficient shooter by today’s standards.  Reed and Hondo together provide plenty of gritty toughness, hustle, defense, and determined scoring. 

snydpie:  Jason Kidd, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon
Hakeem is great, Kidd was a steal, and Ewing belongs in this league but could have been available lower.  The Olajuwon-Kidd pairing makes sense – I can see them flying on the break together, if you use youngish versions of each.  Younger Kidd is the open-court magician who runs like a deer and plays shut-down defense.  Older Kidd is slower and gets burned more often but is much more of a shooting threat, so you need to pick your poison and build the rest of the team accordingly.  I’m not sold on Ewing and Olajuwon playing side by side since both were natural centers.  As he grew older Ewing evolved into a chronic jump shooter so it may be that he can effectively stay out of Hakeem’s way in the low post, but on defense he would be giving up some footspeed to some power forwards in this league. 

Dream has the quickness to cover the quicker 4's but lookin at these teams so far I don't really see any PF's who are really that quick that Ewing can't handle and I am using the younger/middle career of Ewing who was a pretty quick 7 footer who could still knock down the open jumper. 

The Rodman/Parish combo Ewing covers Chief- Dream on Rodman, McHale-post player Ewing can defend him, he's definately not 2 quick, I would start Ewing on Wilt to keep Dream out of foul trouble and Dream on Dirk but I think Ewing could defend Dirk better than Dirk could defend Ewing or Dream cuz whoever Dirk defends will be the one we pound into the post all night which is a total mismatch not to mention the advantage we have on the boards over Dirk, Pettit is no problem for Ewing, the Duncan/Howard matchup is no problem, Hayes is no problem, McAdoo is no problem, DeBusschere is no problem, K. Malone is a player I'm sure Ewing & Olajuwon can defend as well as most, and Dream will start on Barkley- Ewing on Gilmore but Ewing would play off on Barkley when matched up and force him into a jump shooter, and how is Barkley gonna defend my front court or any other that has great post players for that matter?

I think the biggest question here is who is gonna defend Dream/ Ewing not how we're gonna defend our opponents. I don't see any matchups so far that make me think we will ever be overmatched with our frontcourt especially considering Dreams incredible defensive versatility which you guys are totally overlooking when I drafted Ewing. Dream can defend any C or PF in this draft and Ewing can handle his assignments vs any team on here without difficulty considering he was very versatile defensively also. Dream & Ewing also have better shooting range than most centers which is what makes this combo work so well and is one of the many reasons I got Ewing.  Some of these frontcourts mentioned will definately struggle to defend and rebound against the best players in this league.