Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 12:52:00 PM (view original):
Where is "Jewish" tangplay on this matter? LOL

Hack

If you think that because I am Jewish I have to defend Israel, then you are anti-semitic.

This is a Nazi talking point. Saying "Israel did a bad thing" is NOT equivalent to saying "Jews are bad." NAZIS AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS, CCCP.

I feel like I'm the only pro Jewish person here. Of course, you think all Jews who voted for Biden are traitors. So maybe you should stfu.

I clearly live rent-free in your head. You have no idea what you are talking about.

You know what tang. You know who I am and where I live. Want me to STFU? Feel free to come to Boston and make me. Fair? Of course you won't. Internet "tough guy"

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 1:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 9:03:00 AM (view original):

If I come to your house and say the house is mine and you disagree, how would that dispute get resolved in the US?

If I lost that dispute I would get evicted from the house.


CHECKMATE

I don't know why you would repeat over and over that it's a "land dispute" before finally and mercifully agreeing that losing the dispute equals an eviction.

I'm glad you finally caught up. Yes, if the Palestinians lose the dispute, they will get evicted. We all realized this before.

I don't think the Palestinians should get evicted, and you do.

And if the Jews lose it then the Palestinians are not evicted. So you agree it is a dispute. I think the law needs to decide who legally owns the land. If you have issues with the judicial system then it is a different argument altogether. Want to compare Israel's judicial system to those in KSA, Jordan, Syria, Iran and Iraq? Hmmmm....probably not.

You repeatedly said that "no evictions are happening" despite that being a full lie.

I think that
1. The issue should have never been brought up because the settlers should never have tried to take the homes to begin with
2. The court should rule in favor of the Palestinians, clearly and obviously
3. If the court rules in favor of the settlers it will lead to worse outcomes in every way

And obviously Israel's legal system is better than other middle eastern countries.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 1:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 12:52:00 PM (view original):
Where is "Jewish" tangplay on this matter? LOL

Hack

If you think that because I am Jewish I have to defend Israel, then you are anti-semitic.

This is a Nazi talking point. Saying "Israel did a bad thing" is NOT equivalent to saying "Jews are bad." NAZIS AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS, CCCP.

I feel like I'm the only pro Jewish person here. Of course, you think all Jews who voted for Biden are traitors. So maybe you should stfu.

I clearly live rent-free in your head. You have no idea what you are talking about.

You know what tang. You know who I am and where I live. Want me to STFU? Feel free to come to Boston and make me. Fair? Of course you won't. Internet "tough guy"

I'll pass on the offer to drive halfway across the country just to fight you. Does that make me an "internet tough guy"?

clown

I'm really curious, and this is off topic: Do you think that Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election? Was it stolen from Trump?

For the record for those still reading this thread if there are any - of all the nations on this godforsaken planet Israel is the the very top tier of countries with democracy and full voting rights and human rights for all and religious freedom maybe highest in the whole world and lbgtq rights as great and advanced as anywhere in the world....and gun control and medical care as high as anywhere not to mention scientific and medical creativity and innovations rivaled by all.
and one of the top 5 air forces and third or fourth highest nuclear Arsenal and the creator of the miraculous iron dome technology.

quite a lot done in 73 years by a very small population in a tiny patch of land much of it desert all while fending off numerous wars and occupying people still in a state of war against them since 1947 without abatement other then cease fires.

and people expect them to be the most perfect country in the world 24/7 365 days a year.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 1:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:01:00 PM (view original):

Until you admit you lied about what I said when referring to the Holocaust and to FDR

On the Holocaust, you said that Hitler had the right to genocide the Jewish population so long as he won the war. Of course, you condemn the Holocaust.
On FDR, you said that you would have also rounded up Japanese-Americans and put them in internment camps had the Secretary of War supported such an action. IRL they did, so you would have put the Japanese-Americans in internment camps. Fair? I have quotes of you saying these things so I would suggest not lying about them.

I showed articles of people getting stabbed in the West Bank.

But not from this neighborhood. So that was a lie on your part. I asked you for any evidence of terror attacks from the neighborhood in 80 years and you've given me nothing. Seems like no harm is being done here.

Like I said before, you are pro choice aka pro killing of millions of unborn humans. You have zero right to play the humanitarian card.

I've been ignoring you saying this repeatedly because you are more pro-choice than I am. So I don't get where you are going with this. I believe my position on abortion (which is more nuanced than just "pro-choice") IS the humanitarian option. Either way, this is totally irrelevant. I could be a genocidal mass murderer and my argument on this issue would still be correct. You're just mad that I'm correctly pointing out the human suffering that evicting the Palestinians will cause.

#1) Never said right. I said he was justified. Because in his deranged mind they were causing Germany harm. Never did I say he was morally right and the fact that the world watched it happens is mind boggling but yes the victors always write history. I also said that was Israel is doing is not at all like the Holocaust as the Jewish population declined but here the Palestinian population is increasing.

#2) If my Secretary of War said yes, I would have gone along with it. I at the time would not have had the foresight we have now. You asked me if I were in FDR's shoes. Well FDR didn't have the knowledge we have today.

You twisted my words around to suit your narrative. That is fairly embarrassing for you.

#3) So if people in Brooklyn are getting stabbed by a certain group, Queens should just ignore it? How is that remotely logical?

#4) I am not playing the humanitarian card and how can one be more pro choice than another? You are playing the humanitarian card. Makes you a hypocrite. So now you're allowed to conflate my support for Israel to the Holocaust and FDR, which are false conflations but I cannot laugh as you are outraged by land disputes but are NOT outraged by millions of babies getting killed?


This is insanity 101

1) Ok, two things, First, obviously anything is going to be justified in your own head. I'm clearly asking you whether it was justified TO YOU. Second, you stated that you thought Hitler had the right to genocide the population. Not that he was right in doing so, but he had the right to do it had he won the war. I disagree.

2) I mean, personally, I always would have had the foresight of "hey, internment camps are bad" but maybe that's just me. I don't know why you would say I "twisted your words" when I was 100% correct in my characterization of your argument.

3) Just because one black person in Brooklyn stabbed someone, I wouldn't support all of the black people in Queens getting kicked out of their homes for being terrorists or whatever.

4) As I stated, if you want to call me a hypocrite we can have that argument I guess, I just don't care. Whether or not you think I'm a hypocrite has zero relevance on the settler issue.

Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 1:52:00 PM (view original):
For the record for those still reading this thread if there are any - of all the nations on this godforsaken planet Israel is the the very top tier of countries with democracy and full voting rights and human rights for all and religious freedom maybe highest in the whole world and lbgtq rights as great and advanced as anywhere in the world....and gun control and medical care as high as anywhere not to mention scientific and medical creativity and innovations rivaled by all.
and one of the top 5 air forces and third or fourth highest nuclear Arsenal and the creator of the miraculous iron dome technology.

quite a lot done in 73 years by a very small population in a tiny patch of land much of it desert all while fending off numerous wars and occupying people still in a state of war against them since 1947 without abatement other then cease fires.

and people expect them to be the most perfect country in the world 24/7 365 days a year.

I agree with much of this.

I'm still allowed to criticize Israel for discriminatory and apartheid policies against an ethnic minority.

You could say the same about South Africa during their Apartheid. Or the US during Jim Crow.

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 1:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:01:00 PM (view original):

Until you admit you lied about what I said when referring to the Holocaust and to FDR

On the Holocaust, you said that Hitler had the right to genocide the Jewish population so long as he won the war. Of course, you condemn the Holocaust.
On FDR, you said that you would have also rounded up Japanese-Americans and put them in internment camps had the Secretary of War supported such an action. IRL they did, so you would have put the Japanese-Americans in internment camps. Fair? I have quotes of you saying these things so I would suggest not lying about them.

I showed articles of people getting stabbed in the West Bank.

But not from this neighborhood. So that was a lie on your part. I asked you for any evidence of terror attacks from the neighborhood in 80 years and you've given me nothing. Seems like no harm is being done here.

Like I said before, you are pro choice aka pro killing of millions of unborn humans. You have zero right to play the humanitarian card.

I've been ignoring you saying this repeatedly because you are more pro-choice than I am. So I don't get where you are going with this. I believe my position on abortion (which is more nuanced than just "pro-choice") IS the humanitarian option. Either way, this is totally irrelevant. I could be a genocidal mass murderer and my argument on this issue would still be correct. You're just mad that I'm correctly pointing out the human suffering that evicting the Palestinians will cause.

#1) Never said right. I said he was justified. Because in his deranged mind they were causing Germany harm. Never did I say he was morally right and the fact that the world watched it happens is mind boggling but yes the victors always write history. I also said that was Israel is doing is not at all like the Holocaust as the Jewish population declined but here the Palestinian population is increasing.

#2) If my Secretary of War said yes, I would have gone along with it. I at the time would not have had the foresight we have now. You asked me if I were in FDR's shoes. Well FDR didn't have the knowledge we have today.

You twisted my words around to suit your narrative. That is fairly embarrassing for you.

#3) So if people in Brooklyn are getting stabbed by a certain group, Queens should just ignore it? How is that remotely logical?

#4) I am not playing the humanitarian card and how can one be more pro choice than another? You are playing the humanitarian card. Makes you a hypocrite. So now you're allowed to conflate my support for Israel to the Holocaust and FDR, which are false conflations but I cannot laugh as you are outraged by land disputes but are NOT outraged by millions of babies getting killed?


This is insanity 101

1) Ok, two things, First, obviously anything is going to be justified in your own head. I'm clearly asking you whether it was justified TO YOU. Second, you stated that you thought Hitler had the right to genocide the population. Not that he was right in doing so, but he had the right to do it had he won the war. I disagree.

2) I mean, personally, I always would have had the foresight of "hey, internment camps are bad" but maybe that's just me. I don't know why you would say I "twisted your words" when I was 100% correct in my characterization of your argument.

3) Just because one black person in Brooklyn stabbed someone, I wouldn't support all of the black people in Queens getting kicked out of their homes for being terrorists or whatever.

4) As I stated, if you want to call me a hypocrite we can have that argument I guess, I just don't care. Whether or not you think I'm a hypocrite has zero relevance on the settler issue.

Read my post somewhere yesterday where I discuss the fallacy of subjectivity and true evil.

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 1:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 12:52:00 PM (view original):
Where is "Jewish" tangplay on this matter? LOL

Hack

If you think that because I am Jewish I have to defend Israel, then you are anti-semitic.

This is a Nazi talking point. Saying "Israel did a bad thing" is NOT equivalent to saying "Jews are bad." NAZIS AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS, CCCP.

I feel like I'm the only pro Jewish person here. Of course, you think all Jews who voted for Biden are traitors. So maybe you should stfu.

I clearly live rent-free in your head. You have no idea what you are talking about.

You know what tang. You know who I am and where I live. Want me to STFU? Feel free to come to Boston and make me. Fair? Of course you won't. Internet "tough guy"

I'll pass on the offer to drive halfway across the country just to fight you. Does that make me an "internet tough guy"?

clown

I'm really curious, and this is off topic: Do you think that Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election? Was it stolen from Trump?

So you mock me by bringing me into this and Bob has to tell me. I left this forum if you recall. You are dodging. You would never fight me. I believe Biden cleanly won the election.

Why did you bring my name into this? We agreed to leave things be and I left this forum? You just could not help yourself. Like I said, you are a hypocrite. You don't get to stand on a moral high ground as you are a blatant liar and you support the killing of millions of innocent babies by abortion. You cannot dispute that.

Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 1:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 1:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:01:00 PM (view original):

Until you admit you lied about what I said when referring to the Holocaust and to FDR

On the Holocaust, you said that Hitler had the right to genocide the Jewish population so long as he won the war. Of course, you condemn the Holocaust.
On FDR, you said that you would have also rounded up Japanese-Americans and put them in internment camps had the Secretary of War supported such an action. IRL they did, so you would have put the Japanese-Americans in internment camps. Fair? I have quotes of you saying these things so I would suggest not lying about them.

I showed articles of people getting stabbed in the West Bank.

But not from this neighborhood. So that was a lie on your part. I asked you for any evidence of terror attacks from the neighborhood in 80 years and you've given me nothing. Seems like no harm is being done here.

Like I said before, you are pro choice aka pro killing of millions of unborn humans. You have zero right to play the humanitarian card.

I've been ignoring you saying this repeatedly because you are more pro-choice than I am. So I don't get where you are going with this. I believe my position on abortion (which is more nuanced than just "pro-choice") IS the humanitarian option. Either way, this is totally irrelevant. I could be a genocidal mass murderer and my argument on this issue would still be correct. You're just mad that I'm correctly pointing out the human suffering that evicting the Palestinians will cause.

#1) Never said right. I said he was justified. Because in his deranged mind they were causing Germany harm. Never did I say he was morally right and the fact that the world watched it happens is mind boggling but yes the victors always write history. I also said that was Israel is doing is not at all like the Holocaust as the Jewish population declined but here the Palestinian population is increasing.

#2) If my Secretary of War said yes, I would have gone along with it. I at the time would not have had the foresight we have now. You asked me if I were in FDR's shoes. Well FDR didn't have the knowledge we have today.

You twisted my words around to suit your narrative. That is fairly embarrassing for you.

#3) So if people in Brooklyn are getting stabbed by a certain group, Queens should just ignore it? How is that remotely logical?

#4) I am not playing the humanitarian card and how can one be more pro choice than another? You are playing the humanitarian card. Makes you a hypocrite. So now you're allowed to conflate my support for Israel to the Holocaust and FDR, which are false conflations but I cannot laugh as you are outraged by land disputes but are NOT outraged by millions of babies getting killed?


This is insanity 101

1) Ok, two things, First, obviously anything is going to be justified in your own head. I'm clearly asking you whether it was justified TO YOU. Second, you stated that you thought Hitler had the right to genocide the population. Not that he was right in doing so, but he had the right to do it had he won the war. I disagree.

2) I mean, personally, I always would have had the foresight of "hey, internment camps are bad" but maybe that's just me. I don't know why you would say I "twisted your words" when I was 100% correct in my characterization of your argument.

3) Just because one black person in Brooklyn stabbed someone, I wouldn't support all of the black people in Queens getting kicked out of their homes for being terrorists or whatever.

4) As I stated, if you want to call me a hypocrite we can have that argument I guess, I just don't care. Whether or not you think I'm a hypocrite has zero relevance on the settler issue.

Read my post somewhere yesterday where I discuss the fallacy of subjectivity and true evil.

#1) Nope...you are now changing the narrative. I believe the laws in Germany were insanely poor that allowed Hitler to take power and become a Dictator. I believe the world should have been paying attention in the early 30s. Hitler should never have been in power to begin with. What he did was atrocious. Luckily he lost the war. What the fat rocketman in N. Korea is doing is wrong but he is justified. His laws allow him that right. Our justice system is not the same as other countries. In the Muslim world, women are beheaded for adultery whether there is proof or not. Hamas throws gays off rooftops. Are they justified? Yes. Those are their laws. Are they morally right in my view? 100% not.

#2) You said I support them. I said I have zero military experience and would have relied on my secretary of war, who also could have suggested against it. You know you twisted my words. You're either stupid or a liar. Take your pick.

#3) What if the white supremacists in Brooklyn stabbed 20 Jews. Would you in Queens be vary of white supremacists there or shrug? You just equated black people to terrorists. Well done.

#4) You are a hypocrite. You agreed it was a land dispute. Your issue is that you believe the court system is unfair. Yes or no? So if I am an Israeli citizen and I believe you settled my land illegally what should I do? Should I not go to the court system?

Like I said you are the most evil person I have encountered in an online forum. Take from that statement what you will.

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 1:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 1:52:00 PM (view original):
For the record for those still reading this thread if there are any - of all the nations on this godforsaken planet Israel is the the very top tier of countries with democracy and full voting rights and human rights for all and religious freedom maybe highest in the whole world and lbgtq rights as great and advanced as anywhere in the world....and gun control and medical care as high as anywhere not to mention scientific and medical creativity and innovations rivaled by all.
and one of the top 5 air forces and third or fourth highest nuclear Arsenal and the creator of the miraculous iron dome technology.

quite a lot done in 73 years by a very small population in a tiny patch of land much of it desert all while fending off numerous wars and occupying people still in a state of war against them since 1947 without abatement other then cease fires.

and people expect them to be the most perfect country in the world 24/7 365 days a year.

I agree with much of this.

I'm still allowed to criticize Israel for discriminatory and apartheid policies against an ethnic minority.

You could say the same about South Africa during their Apartheid. Or the US during Jim Crow.

Palestinians are not a minority. Neither were the blacks in South Africa. But facts don't seem to matter to you.

Some people call the Arabs in Israel Palestinians - only most who live in East Jerusulam are Palestinians.

israel does not have apartheid. The West Bank and Gaza have been occupied since 1948 war.
egypt and Jordan tried to take Palestinians land in 1948. Jordan did take East Jerusulam but Israel took it from Jordan in 1967.

Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 2:44:00 PM (view original):
Some people call the Arabs in Israel Palestinians - only most who live in East Jerusulam are Palestinians.

israel does not have apartheid. The West Bank and Gaza have been occupied since 1948 war.
egypt and Jordan tried to take Palestinians land in 1948. Jordan did take East Jerusulam but Israel took it from Jordan in 1967.

^^^THIS^^^

The word "Palestinian" was not even uttered until 1967 and the Egyptian Arafat uttered it. YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIR

Why did you bring my name into this?

I didn't? I never mentioned you until you came in.

I believe Biden cleanly won the election.

I'm glad. Do you think Trump knowingly lied about winning or is just dumb enough to be fooled?

You said I support them. I said I have zero military experience and would have relied on my secretary of war, who also could have suggested against it.

Well, considering that IRL the Secretary of War was for it, you would have supported it. See, I don't need military experience to believe that internment camps are bad.

What if the white supremacists in Brooklyn stabbed 20 Jews. Would you in Queens be vary of white supremacists there or shrug?

The reason why I compared Palestinians to black people is that neither are inherently bad, and both are inherent to you as a person. If you are born as a Palestinian, you can't change that, and it's OK. Same with being born black. You are NOT born as a white supremacist, and white supremacists are inherently bad, whether they are stabbing people or not. This is clearly a false comparison. I would be wary of white supremacists regardless of whether they are stabbing people.

The reason why you are uncomfortable with just changing "Jews" to "White people" and "Palestinians" to "Black people" while leaving the rest of the situation intact is that it clearly elucidates the lunacy of the settler's argument. If a one black person in Brooklyn stabbed some people, you wouldn't then decide to kick out all of the black people in Queens from their homes. But that's the exact thing you're saying about the Palestinians.

You are a hypocrite. You agreed it was a land dispute. Your issue is that you believe the court system is unfair. Yes or no? So if I am an Israeli citizen and I believe you settled my land illegally what should I do? Should I not go to the court system?

If I was an Israeli citizen, and Palestinians had been living in this neighborhood for 80 years, I wouldn't claim the land as my own and attempt to kick the Palestinians out. Even if I believed the land was "Jewish," I would understand that I wasn't even alive at the time that these land claims were made and that the Palestinians have lived there for decades, with zero harm being done to me. I would also understand that I'm fortunate to live in a safe haven, a great nation of Israel with plenty of other opportunities for me, including a home that I already live in. Meanwhile, the Palestinians might be kicked out of the city entirely because of segregationist housing policies, essentially deported to a nation that might hate them or treat them poorly. This might make them turn to Hamas, and perhaps put me in more danger in the long run. Finally, I would be disgusted by housing policies that discriminate against people based on their ethnicity. Even if that is Israel's land, I have no more right to it as a Jewish person than you do as a Palestinian.

Palestinians are not a minority. Neither were the blacks in South Africa.

Palestinians absolutely are a minority in Jerusalem and in Israel as a whole, the **** are you talking about? The reason I compared Israel to South Africa is that both states discriminate against people based on their ethnicity/race.

israel does not have apartheid.

Israel will not let you live in certain areas of Jerusalem if you aren't Jewish. They are currently trying to kick out Palestinians from their homes for not being Jewish. They absolutely segregate and discriminate. This is undeniable.

Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Why did you bring my name into this?

I didn't? I never mentioned you until you came in.

I believe Biden cleanly won the election.

I'm glad. Do you think Trump knowingly lied about winning or is just dumb enough to be fooled?

You said I support them. I said I have zero military experience and would have relied on my secretary of war, who also could have suggested against it.

Well, considering that IRL the Secretary of War was for it, you would have supported it. See, I don't need military experience to believe that internment camps are bad.

What if the white supremacists in Brooklyn stabbed 20 Jews. Would you in Queens be vary of white supremacists there or shrug?

The reason why I compared Palestinians to black people is that neither are inherently bad, and both are inherent to you as a person. If you are born as a Palestinian, you can't change that, and it's OK. Same with being born black. You are NOT born as a white supremacist, and white supremacists are inherently bad, whether they are stabbing people or not. This is clearly a false comparison. I would be wary of white supremacists regardless of whether they are stabbing people.

The reason why you are uncomfortable with just changing "Jews" to "White people" and "Palestinians" to "Black people" while leaving the rest of the situation intact is that it clearly elucidates the lunacy of the settler's argument. If a one black person in Brooklyn stabbed some people, you wouldn't then decide to kick out all of the black people in Queens from their homes. But that's the exact thing you're saying about the Palestinians.

You are a hypocrite. You agreed it was a land dispute. Your issue is that you believe the court system is unfair. Yes or no? So if I am an Israeli citizen and I believe you settled my land illegally what should I do? Should I not go to the court system?

If I was an Israeli citizen, and Palestinians had been living in this neighborhood for 80 years, I wouldn't claim the land as my own and attempt to kick the Palestinians out. Even if I believed the land was "Jewish," I would understand that I wasn't even alive at the time that these land claims were made and that the Palestinians have lived there for decades, with zero harm being done to me. I would also understand that I'm fortunate to live in a safe haven, a great nation of Israel with plenty of other opportunities for me, including a home that I already live in. Meanwhile, the Palestinians might be kicked out of the city entirely because of segregationist housing policies, essentially deported to a nation that might hate them or treat them poorly. This might make them turn to Hamas, and perhaps put me in more danger in the long run. Finally, I would be disgusted by housing policies that discriminate against people based on their ethnicity. Even if that is Israel's land, I have no more right to it as a Jewish person than you do as a Palestinian.

Palestinians are not a minority. Neither were the blacks in South Africa.

Palestinians absolutely are a minority in Jerusalem and in Israel as a whole, the **** are you talking about? The reason I compared Israel to South Africa is that both states discriminate against people based on their ethnicity/race.

israel does not have apartheid.

Israel will not let you live in certain areas of Jerusalem if you aren't Jewish. They are currently trying to kick out Palestinians from their homes for not being Jewish. They absolutely segregate and discriminate. This is undeniable.

Another lie….page 1. You said or agreed with the point that Dino was being like cccp. You cannot even be honest about that. Adios. You’re a liar and an evil human being. Enjoy your life….


Until you grow up we have zero to discuss. I do hope we meet someday.

Palestinians don’t live in Israel unless you count East Jerusulam where they are the majority over Israeli Arabs and Jews. and Israel has always been ready to let it be part of the Palestinian state.
get it already or stop talking like you know anything.
israeli Arabs are descended from the Arabs who lived in Israel at the time of the partition and maybe a few Palestinians who crossed over.


only an agenda bent moron keeps calling settlers Israel. Shows total lack of intellectual honesty especially in light of what you learned today about the independent judiciary and you ignore the fact that the attorney general put this case to the Supreme Court.

segregation or discrimination as you put it exists in every democracy in the world where there are minorities. Sometimes ethnoneighborhoids develop out of tradition and need.

also some Palestinians can become Israeli citizens through the family reunification law.

jews lived in East Jerusulam before Jordan took it in 1948 and expelled a community of 1500.... now Jews live there again.