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Hey, hate to be a pest but I love this thing, but could you put my other center in there, I signed two centers...
7/30/2009 9:37 AM
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7/31/2009 12:36 AM
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7/31/2009 12:37 AM
Center ratings updated. Somehow, another Goucher player was omitted. I've got to work the kinks out of how I pull the data...

The good news is that the added player (Fulton) strengthened the CAP's Center class (4 of the top 25 / 6 of the top 35). The bad news, at least for Goucher, is that Mr. Fulton is a significant drop off from the rest of Ty's class. Must be tough when your worst recruit is still in the top 20 at his position, and in the 89th percentile! In addition, this guy has already improved 23 points, 17 of which are in key areas - ATH, REB, BLK, DEF and STA. What are you feeding this guy Ty???
7/31/2009 12:43 AM
Season 36 - CAP Rankings:

Conf RankNamePOSRed RatingSchool
#1Jeffrey SpragginsPG9.75Goucher
#2Thomas DavisPF7.88York (PA)
#3Allen VanhoosePG7.85St. Mary's of Maryland
#4James JurgensSG7.48Goucher
#5Francis MarshallC7.32St. Mary's of Maryland
#6Hoyt BrophyC6.59Goucher
#7Donald MermelsteinSF6.48Goucher
#8Rodney LeachSF5.88York (PA)
#9James BrooksPF5.41St. Mary's of Maryland
#10Michael FultonC4.48Goucher
#11Dan SummersC4.13Hood
#12Eugene McNicholasPG3.97St. Mary's of Maryland
#13Matthew ElserSF3.96Hood
#14Brian LevesqueSG3.90York (PA)
#15Darrell OlmstedSG3.75Chestnut Hill
#16Clayton KeesPG3.59Mary Washington
#17Matthew KeanC3.49Stevenson University
#18Troy ConleyC3.13Salisbury
#19Casey WhelanPF2.64Chestnut Hill
#20Tracy HoneycuttPF2.54Catholic
#21Clyde GilfillanSG2.49Gallaudet
#22Trey PetersonPG2.49Mary Washington
#23Anthony GavinPF2.30York (PA)
#24Robert DragoPF1.91Hood
#25Patrick SummeySG1.76Gallaudet
#26Jerome McAlisterPG1.59Chestnut Hill
#27August FontenotPF1.53Mary Washington
#28Timothy AthertonSF1.18Stevenson University
#29Lee BachandPF1.18Catholic
#30Thomas JacksonSG1.13Salisbury
7/31/2009 1:29 AM
Season 36 - CAP Rankings (continued):

Conf RankNamePOSRed RatingSchool
#31Richard ManleySG1.12Stevenson University
#32Robert ZimmermanSG1.12Marymount
#33James YunkerC-0.33Gallaudet
#34Rob BonenfantPF-0.37Gallaudet
#35Scott MeeC-1.91Catholic
7/31/2009 1:30 AM
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7/31/2009 1:55 AM
Thanks red, and we feed him a steady dose of HGH, of course we are just having him use the cream version ala Barry Bonds...
7/31/2009 8:14 AM
Red, Thanks for adding me in, but one caviat I'd like to add is that when I was deciding on my recruits, FT% is, and was, one of the main things I took into consideration. I know you didn't include it in the ratings, as per your statement back in the beginning, but I'd much rather have a PF/C with a 52 Reb/55 LP/71 or 73 FT% than a PF/C with a 55 Reb/60 LP/53 or 56 FT%. I'll bet a paycheck that those numbers of yours do a complete flip-flop if you take FT% into account and I'd personally like to see them re-done with FT% included.

CourtMagic
7/31/2009 10:44 AM
That's your dumb decision, courtmagic - FT% is a secondary concern at best.
7/31/2009 10:50 PM
Geeez...tell him how you really feel cornfused.

I tend to agree though. I think you're overvaluing FT%, likley to the detriment of core ratings.

7/31/2009 11:38 PM
And that last comment comes from a coach who is 1-6 this year, with a 269 RPI.
7/31/2009 11:40 PM
Red, the reason I took FT% into consideration as much as I did, is because 2 seasons ago I inherited this team with almost all SIM AI players and most of them were C-, C, or C+ in FT% and in the last 2 seasons I've probably lost 5 or 6 games because my guys couldn't hit the front end of a 1 & 1.
7/31/2009 11:45 PM
FT%, I feel is secondary as well... If I can get a good one, sweet, but I'd rather have an athletic, fast rebounding post who can score the basket if I had my choice... Hell, if he is a good enough rebounder, he will just rebound all my bad free throw shots!!!
8/1/2009 1:09 AM
---Warning to everyone, the following post is not without invective.---



Courtmagic, if you really want to criticize me for being 1-6 (1-7, actually) in my first season at DI, that's your decision, but do a little research first.

You at DIII: three seasons, 48-19 record, one-and-done in your only NT bid.

Me at DIII: twelve seasons, 251-117 record, eight NT bids (one one-and-done,) one NT championship.

I may have been harsh, but your "I'll bet a paycheck" comment was pure bluster from a player that hasn't been in the game very long, and it's just plain wrong. If a player has 8 FTAs per game, an extra 25% FT (the difference between an A- and a C) nets you 1 (one) point per game. You're wasting your time going after high-FT players when, at DIII, you DO have targets out there with better LP, REB, or ATH then what you get when you shoot for the FT guys. I'll take (ATH/SPD/REB/LP/FT) a 50/50/60/60/F guy ahead of even a 45/45/50/50/A guy any day.

I made a legitimate (though harsh) criticism of your strategy. And you made it personal, taking a potshot at my record in my first year with a D- prestige Div I school, where 3 of the 11 players I use are my own recruits and everyone is learning new offensive and defensive sets.

Let's make it personal, then: I have a national championship. You don't. I have fifteen postseason wins. You have none. In my last eight years at Lawrence, I had a sub-50 RPI - in my last five, it was sub-15. Unless you have another username, you have not yet played a single in-conference game with a single one of your own recruits.

Contrary to your unspoken assertion, my opinion IS more likely to be correct than yours. You'll also notice that Cobb and Redbaron (1561 total wins) agree with me.



To put it simply, the best way to avoid losing those close games on missed FTs is to score more points so the games aren't so damn close.
8/1/2009 3:00 AM
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