hop just got one replaced in Maris which is a public world 1 game into the season.

methinks the support these days (post TK) is incomsistent and inneffectual

wasted my 30k post damnit.

Quote: Originally Posted By blanch13 on 9/25/2009He's 3-59 in Field of Dreams. And yes, we should've caught him when he joined. But to traceysemmel's point, our commish has been trying to get rid of him all season, to no avail. WIS apparently has no interest in enforcing the "under .250 rule"

No foolin'. What rules DO they enforce?

Count me as another person who doesn't understand why somebody pays $25 to LOSE PURPOSELY at a game???

Quote: Originally Posted By blackmamba22 on 9/25/2009well, as commisioners, i have to agree you would of caught the drift when you saw a 5-157 record. That has got to be harder to accomplish than winning 40 games

With all due respect, it is hard to find owners to fill spots at this point in WIS. We went public with 4 spots to fill and he joined when the league was public. I could not have stopped it!!!!!!!!!! BUT NOW-- There is no reason to make us keep this Jerk for an entire season when he has obviously shown he is tanking.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/25/2009
Probably because he paid to play. Did any of this happen to catch your eye when he asked to join?

Pioneer League	WAS Gridlocks	7	$61.4M	5-157 (.031)	4	-
Field of Dreams	WIC Tornadoes	9	-	3-58 (.049)	-	-
Wright	CHR Hurricanes	5	$61.7M	15-147 (.093)	4	-
Dale Murphy	CHR Hurricanes	13	-	3-19 (.136)	-	-
Continental Leag	HON Lava	1	$58.4M	49-113 (.302)	4	-
Hornsby	SXF Pioneers	7	$64.3M	49-113 (.302)	4	-
Boggs	AUS Computer Geeks	7	$70.8M	51-111 (.315)	4	-
Rizzuto	VC Cold	12	$72.5M	52-110 (.321)	4	-
Williams	COL Rockies	13	$65.5M	52-110 (.321)	4	-
Doubleday	MNT Gray Ghosts	4	$20.9M	53-109 (.327)	4	-

Add that to the fact that he's played in 19 worlds, has 12 of them behind and you might have heard a siren go off.

He did not ask to join-- He joined when we went public with 4 spots to fill.

You can ask for an extension on a private world so it doesn't go public. And it's a poor excuse "well we had a hard time getting owners". Be patient, ask for an extension if needed and ask in other worlds to help you out temp.

Quote: Originally Posted By mitchrapp on 9/26/2009You can ask for an extension on a private world so it doesn't go public. And it's a poor excuse "well we had a hard time getting owners". Be patient, ask for an extension if needed and ask in other worlds to help you out temp.

Some of you are self righteous know it alls that think we should spend every minute of the day not working or being with family but organizing and recruiting for a fantasy game. I appologize to the few of you who responded in good faith. I do my best, and expect others to do so with the time they can spend playing this GAME.

I posted hoping we could maybe push admin to start doing the right thing and allow a league to get rid of owners like this. You want to blame me, the league and anyone else except admin for allowing this to continue---- Just wonderful.

Quote: Originally Posted By traceysemmel on 9/26/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By mitchrapp on 9/26/2009
You can ask for an extension on a private world so it doesn't go public. And it's a poor excuse "well we had a hard time getting owners". Be patient, ask for an extension if needed and ask in other worlds to help you out temp.

Some of you are self righteous know it alls that think we should spend every minute of the day not working or being with family but organizing and recruiting for a fantasy game. I appologize to the few of you who responded in good faith. I do my best, and expect others to do so with the time they can spend playing this GAME.

I posted hoping we could maybe push admin to start doing the right thing and allow a league to get rid of owners like this. You want to blame me, the league and anyone else except admin for allowing this to continue---- Just wonderful.

It sucks, tracy, but the guideline is what it is. 50 games was set up because that's a big enough sample size that it couldn't just be an accident or poor play or something like that...

As opposed to you snapping there a little...look, you're reacting badly but everyone has a point. If you don't have time to fill the league privately, that's fine. There's not anything wrong with that, and I don't think there's anyone here that would say that you made a poor choice to work or spend time with your family as opposed to recruiting for your league...

But when you go public this is something that you risk happening. It just is what it is, tracy, it's not something to get mad about. I mean, mad at us about.

Quote: Originally Posted By tropicana on 9/26/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By traceysemmel on 9/26/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By mitchrapp on 9/26/2009
You can ask for an extension on a private world so it doesn't go public. And it's a poor excuse "well we had a hard time getting owners". Be patient, ask for an extension if needed and ask in other worlds to help you out temp.

Some of you are self righteous know it alls that think we should spend every minute of the day not working or being with family but organizing and recruiting for a fantasy game. I appologize to the few of you who responded in good faith. I do my best, and expect others to do so with the time they can spend playing this GAME.

I posted hoping we could maybe push admin to start doing the right thing and allow a league to get rid of owners like this. You want to blame me, the league and anyone else except admin for allowing this to continue---- Just wonderful.

It sucks, tracy, but the guideline is what it is. 50 games was set up because that's a big enough sample size that it couldn't just be an accident or poor play or something like that...

As opposed to you snapping there a little...look, you're reacting badly but everyone has a point. If you don't have time to fill the league privately, that's fine. There's not anything wrong with that, and I don't think there's anyone here that would say that you made a poor choice to work or spend time with your family as opposed to recruiting for your league...

But when you go public this is something that you risk happening. It just is what it is, tracy, it's not something to get mad about. I mean, mad at us about.

Good Point:)

It's simple.

WifS gives you the tools to keep the tools out. You chose not to utilize that ability. NOW you play by the standards WifS set. "Yeah, but..." doesn't work.

End.

Of.

Story.

I've come to accept that the battle over tanking has been fought and lost. WIS supports it and the vast majority of owners support it (by action or inaction). And that really is the end of the story. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/27/2009
It's simple.

WifS gives you the tools to keep the tools out. You chose not to utilize that ability. NOW you play by the standards WifS set. "Yeah, but..." doesn't work.

End.

Of.

Story.

Is the air pretty thin up there on top of Mt. Olympus?

Quote: Originally posted by traceysemmel on 9/26/2009Some of you are self righteous know it alls that think we should spend every minute of the day not working or being with family but organizing and recruiting for a fantasy game.  I appologize to the few of you who responded in good faith.  I do my best, and expect others to do so with the time they can spend playing this GAME.  I posted hoping we could maybe push admin to start doing the right thing and allow a league to get rid of owners like this.   You want to blame me, the league and anyone else except admin for allowing this to continue----  Just wonderful.  

"Admin" created this game to make money. You have an owner who paid his money. "Admin" is happy to have achieved his goal.

You had a mechanism in place that would allow you to control who did/did not join your league. You chose not to use that mechanism anymore, allowing the league to go public and allowing anyone to enter it.

Its a bad situation... it really is. But people really need to stop asking "admin" to intervene and fix their mistakes.

Quote: Originally posted by jsturgis5866 on 9/27/2009I've come to accept that the battle over tanking has been fought and lost. WIS supports it and the vast majority of owners support it (by action or inaction). And that really is the end of the story. Everything else is an exercise in futility.

True story. The league has to police the tanking, NOT the site.