as commish of said league here is my 2 cents:

knucklebones was in the league for 7 seasons. he took a shyt team and over that 7 seasons turned them into a 100+ win team, had division titles, made the playoffs, etc... He let's me know with plenty of warning that he was going to drop the team after 7 seasons. He didn't leave midseason. Let's face it the majority of owners average life with any given team is likely less than 7 seasons. A guy shows me he can stick for that long i think they've got some loyalty.

The team is still very good after 2+ more years after his departure so he didn't leave a mess or fading franchise.

I had an owner go awol in kjd's division. kjd is all happy that he get's to face a dead team likely. Knucks had expressed to me awhile ago that either at rollover or in the event of an abandonement he'd like back in the world as in his words "it's the funnest world in HBD" So i contact knucks and asked if he wanted them, he said yes. i gave him the team. Every other owner who has posted in world chat has been thrilled to have knucks back, except kjd who continually calls knuck a "quitter" every time he posts to the point where it's bordering on harassement.

IMO kjd is worried cuz he's been in charge of that division for a couple years now and he watched knuck take a shyt team and turn it around to be the best team in his division before. He's scared of being dethroned.

Anyone who knows knucklebones knows he's a good owner, lot's of fun in world chat and he's learned how to build a good team. I'd accept him in any of the 2 worlds i commish.

i'm going to repost this in a separate thread as i know kjd will likely redline it.

Huh. In quite the shocking development, the actual situation does not appear to be like the situation KJD described at all.

Quote: Originally posted by kingjohndevi on 9/30/2009So, you have an owner, by all accounts a great owner, but one day he ups and leaves. His team then goes on to almost make the world series without him, so by no means did he bail on a bad team. He just says 'I'm quitting WIS, later." No explanation, nothing, one day he's there, the next day he's gone. A week or few later you see him trolling around the Forums and see he is in a few worlds again. This is where the question comes in:If you have to replace an owner, do you let this individual replace the current owner?

If it's Knucklebones, then yes.

The situation I imagined:

Late in the season, the owner of a first place team says "I'm done with HBD."

Commish doesn't replace him as the team is in first and it's sort of pointless.

Two weeks later, said owner is joining worlds again.

But, to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides he's had enough again and disappears for a few weeks.

and if he does, he does. knucks has proven to me over time that he is a good owner and imo any world is not neccesarily a better world with him in it (def not worse tho) but it makes it a much more fun and entertaining world.

I don't know why you guys are bringing knuck into this conversation.

you started it tool. made it look like i brought stiffs or caracarn in. peaople need to know we are talking about an owner a lot of users here respect, unlike you.

I started what about knuck? I started a thread about whether or not owners that quit with no reason should be allowed back in, that doesn't even describe the way knuck our league. Yeah, knuck coming back made me think about the this situation, but this situation clearly isn't about knuck. Try and stick to the topic and stop trying to make things personal.

if you think you can pass of that bullshyt then you truly think all us other owners are idiots. nice attempt at backtracking though.

I don't know knucklebones from crap. But the situation KJD described is far different than the one erff described.

Ill vouch for knucklebones too. been in a few worlds with him, never a problem.

There was some stuff going on with MrsDanny's abandonment issues again, I think.

It might've even been in a Shtickless league.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 10/01/2009Huh. In quite the shocking development, the actual situation does not appear to be like the situation KJD described at all

In another shocking development, someone swallowed the shyte ... hook, line and sinker.

Quote: Originally Posted By kingjohndevi on 9/30/2009
Does an excuse really excuse anything?

There is a big difference between an excuse and a reason--perhaps he ahd a valid reason, that something happened to him at one point. I think either one should base their opinion on his reputation as an owner, or better yet, by asking him.