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Quote: Originally posted by sergei91 on 11/09/2009you didn't tell me to get rid of the url's

u don't have to. i just copy and paste
11/9/2009 1:51 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by sergei91 on 11/09/2009you signed pulido twicehope i get that chance with jumbo

yeah. the thing that bugs me is (que tard world comments) my team has won the WS 4 years in a row and is there again now and he still wants to leave.
11/9/2009 1:51 PM
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racist!
11/9/2009 1:52 PM
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11/9/2009 1:52 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By erffdogg on 11/09/2009
Quote: Originally posted by sergei91 on 11/09/2009
you signed pulido twice

hope i get that chance with jumbo

yeah. the thing that bugs me is (que tard world comments) my team has won the WS 4 years in a row and is there again now and he still wants to leave


i guess they're trying to make sure the elite teams can't maintain their eliteness. you'll have to water down your sp.
11/9/2009 1:53 PM
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yeah. next year may be the first year i've had to look for a good sp in FA in a long time
11/9/2009 2:04 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by gjello10 on 11/09/2009"how many real life FA choose to leave the Yankees or Red Sox?" That's because the Yankees and Red Sox have all the money.  In real life, there is almost no way that leaving the Yankees or Red Sox can mean anything other than making LESS money.  .


Which is why I think in HBD most players should give a high end offer to their current team. I would bet in real life a very high percentage of players agents enter negotiations with the players current team, and if the team would meet their demands the player would stay, it is just most teams can't offer what the Red Sox and Yankees can pay, but in HBD all teams can.. I think In HBD the same should be done. A player that desires to test the open market might ask his former team for high end variations and let them decide instead of the current no chance system.
11/9/2009 5:16 PM
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or since this isn't a MLB rule make it so that the players current team can offer him more than any other team? Like only the players current team can offer $25 mil a year?
11/9/2009 5:26 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by kingjohndevi on 11/09/2009or since this isn't a MLB rule make it so that the players current team can offer him more than any other team? Like only the players current team can offer $25 mil a year?
Theres a rule like that in the NBA I think.
11/9/2009 5:30 PM
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I do wish there was some way that teams could break the bank to change a departing free agent's mind. A lot of owners grow as attached to a player as they do their team, so it's the opposite of fun when your favorite player hits the open market.

But I seem to half recall Admin saying that a player's former club held a tiebreaker in FA negotiations? Does anyone else recall this?
11/9/2009 5:36 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By patrickm885 on 11/04/2009
I'll update the thread with this info.

The tiebreakers for any contract that is the same value are as follows:

Playoff Contention (based on last seasons winning %)
Coaching Staff
Ballpark
11/9/2009 6:09 PM
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"I would bet in real life a very high percentage of players agents enter negotiations with the players current team, and if the team would meet their demands the player would stay, it is just most teams can't offer what the Red Sox and Yankees can pay, but in HBD all teams can.."



Except that we can see how it actually works in the NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. Favre is a Viking. Seau is a Patriot. Shaq is a Cav (his 5th team). King James is out of Cleveland in a year. Even Brady and Manning will probably end their careers somewhere else. But Rivera, Jeter, Posada... they'll all die in pinstripes and be burried in Yankee stadium, because the Yanks can throw money at problems and overpay aging players, etc.

In real life, what happens when all the teams have the same amount of money is that agents get in players' ears and convince them that by hitting the FA market, they can create a bidding war and get a few more bucks. And the player listens.

The point is, guys like Jeter, Rivera, and Posada don't stay with the Yanks because they love the Yanks, or because they love winning. They stay because they get paid. Look what happens when the Marlins win a WS: everyone's gone in 2 years. Because no one wants to give a discount and win. They want a few extra bucks.

That said, I would have no problem making this a factor in deciding between max contracts in favor of the original team.
11/9/2009 6:25 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by gjello10 on 11/09/2009"I would bet in real life a very high percentage of players agents enter negotiations with the players current team, and if the team would meet their demands the player would stay, it is just most teams can't offer what the Red Sox and Yankees can pay, but in HBD all teams can.." Except that we can see how it actually works in the NFL, NBA, NHL, etc.  Favre is a Viking.  Seau is a Patriot.  Shaq is a Cav (his 5th team).  King James is out of Cleveland in a year.  Even Brady and Manning will probably end their careers somewhere else.  But Rivera, Jeter, Posada... they'll all die in pinstripes and be burried in Yankee stadium, because the Yanks can throw money at problems and overpay aging players, etc.  In real life, what happens when all the teams have the same amount of money is that agents get in players' ears and convince them that by hitting the FA market, they can create a bidding war and get a few more bucks.  And the player listens.The point is, guys like Jeter, Rivera, and Posada don't stay with the Yanks because they love the Yanks, or because they love winning.  They stay because they get paid.  Look what happens when the Marlins win a WS: everyone's gone in 2 years.  Because no one wants to give a discount and win.  They want a few extra bucks.That said, I would have no problem making this a factor in deciding between max contracts in favor of the original team.

In football and basketball all we see is the outcome.
You don't think in football that agents still offer the retaining team a absurd contract? If the agent thinks the player can get 8 mil a season in the offseason you don't think he asks the current team for 9 mil a season?

Another thing about real life is there is other factors in the decision process that HBD does not have. King James for example will take into consideration leaving Cleveland because of endorsement reasons, that is not a factor in HBD.
11/9/2009 6:37 PM
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i just wish Yamil would come back. but not at 110 mil. i'd get him if i offered it i'm sure but i won't
11/9/2009 6:48 PM
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this is all a ploy by you to have everyone waste their cap space so you screw us all when you sign him
11/9/2009 8:15 PM
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