Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/25/2010



Also, can someone tell me why PBPs don't generate for sim v. sim games?

Been like that forever. I think it's so they don't have to use storage space for it, but not sure. Maybe I made that up.

I tried looking at the Montevallo-West Georgia game (where a worse West Georgia team killed Montevallo

You're forgetting the fact that the sim ai for West Georgia has a major coaching advantage over you.

) and it says no PBP generated...?

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/25/2010
Let's look at the actual facts:

The average rating of your scholarship players was 39 pts better than the other team's. Against a Sim AI, still arguably a big margin...and again...look at the differences in the FG%, and compare the PE and LP numbers of the 2 teams...UNREAL.

Then add in their home court advantage. C-...really, you're backing a C- when West Georgia beat that same team on its home floor by 27...really?

Then add in the fact that you have an abysmal ft shooting team, and they have a very good ft shooting team. My ratings are subpar...they bare out a 42.1% output...please.

Then add in the fact that you put together a terrible game plan. A terrible gameplan? You mean the same gameplan that I beat a similar quality team the game before on the road by 46...that terrible gameplan?

Doesn't seem so odd that they would beat you. You seem to like/want to completely write off the talent disparity. This game should have EASILY been double digits in my favor.

Sorry, but I'm not letting you off the hook. You lost this game because you did a terrible coaching job. Terrible coaching job my ***.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/25/2010

Let's look at the actual facts:

The average rating of your scholarship players was 39 pts better than the other team's. Against a Sim AI, still arguably a big margin...and again...look at the differences in the FG%, and compare the PE and LP numbers of the 2 teams...UNREAL.

Then add in their home court advantage. C-...really, you're backing a C- when West Georgia beat that same team on its home floor by 27...really?

Then add in the fact that you have an abysmal ft shooting team, and they have a very good ft shooting team. My ratings are subpar...they bare out a 42.1% output...please.

Then add in the fact that you put together a terrible game plan. A terrible gameplan? You mean the same gameplan that I beat a similar quality team the game before on the road by 46...that terrible gameplan?

Doesn't seem so odd that they would beat you. You seem to like/want to completely write off the talent disparity. This game should have EASILY been double digits in my favor.

Sorry, but I'm not letting you off the hook. You lost this game because you did a terrible coaching job. Terrible coaching job my ***.

Quote: Originally Posted By daalter on 4/25/2010

39 pts is a reasonable advantage. Not crazy, not insurmountable, you had the better talent. But this isn't Duke vs. Sister of the Blind, either. Make no mistake: Your team is not very good. I won't dispute this, however, still good enough to easily beat this team by double digits easily...it happened easily the game before, why not this one, explain that.

The other things that I pointed out (HCA, bad ft for you, good ft for him) are all relevant and impactful. And you're suggesting that this is good justification for losing to a team that is incredibly worse than you are...please. I don't think you realize the severity of what happened here. There are some things that just shouldn't happen. I should have won and expected to win this game easily by double digits, because their team is out and out trash. They are all mitigating factors that don't show up in the overall ratings. If all those things are to your advantage, that can make 39 pts look like 60 or 70 real quick. If they're all to his advantage, they can make 39 pts look like 10 real quick. Again, you're backing a C- HCA when a Sim AI with a worse team than mine beat that C- HCA team by 27 on their floor? Give me a break. Should a C- FT shooter go 0-5? I turned the ball over more than they did, why?

And yes, your gameplan was awful. Then why did it work on the team of similar quality before, good enough for a 46 point win? Answer that You made an inexcusable rookie mistake by not going uptempo. There's no guarantee that this would have won the game And the fact that you can't own up to such an obvious failure speaks volumes. Be a man and own up to making a significant mistake that cost you a game. (And that's not even mentioning not using a + defense.) I should have won that game resting my starters, not playing my regular offense and defense, that's how slam dunk it was/should have been. Their IQs are worse than mine as well, their LPs and PEs are worse than mine, but you're justifying your 3 point win...unreal...come on dalter.

Quote: Originally Posted By daalter on 4/25/2010I'm not going to let you scapegoat something else for your own considerable shortcomings.

Quote: Originally Posted By hitman1979 on 4/25/2010Yeah, let's come cry to the forums every time I do a crappy job coaching, have a massive gameplanning failure and lose

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/25/2010
Look at this boxscore

http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/GameResults/BoxScore.aspx?gid=5664663

A worse team beat Montevallo in exhibition...they switched to +2 at halftime and after going 5-12 in the first half from 3, Montevallo IMPROVED in their 3 point shooting in the second half, going 4-9.

My team was good enough to easily clobber that team by double digits...did it against St. Leo...why so different v. Montevallo?

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By hitman1979 on 4/25/2010
Yeah, let's come cry to the forums every time I do a crappy job coaching, have a massive gameplanning failure and lose.

FTFY

Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 4/25/2010Your team isn't good. Should you have won? Yeah, nobody is saying that the sim was better. However, your team isn't that much better then them. They have some advantages, you have others. You didn't maximize your advantages and you lost a close game. Sim it more and probably 7 out of 10 you'd win. 70% is above average, but it isn't no 'slam dunk' win if you don't use your depth advantage and such. With this game plan I'd say it drops from 70% to closer to 60% or maybe slightly less in favor of you. You played bad defencive game plan and they hit there shots. On the flip side you didn't cash in on your free bees (40ish% from the foul line jus ain't going to cut it no matter how bad the team you play is


This is a tidy synopsis.

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/25/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 4/25/2010
Your team isn't good. Should you have won? Yeah, nobody is saying that the sim was better. However, your team isn't that much better then them. They have some advantages, you have others. You didn't maximize your advantages and you lost a close game. Sim it more and probably 7 out of 10 you'd win. 70% is above average, but it isn't no 'slam dunk' win if you don't use your depth advantage and such. With this game plan I'd say it drops from 70% to closer to 60% or maybe slightly less in favor of you. You played bad defencive game plan and they hit there shots. On the flip side you didn't cash in on your free bees (40ish% from the foul line jus ain't going to cut it no matter how bad the team you play is)



This is a tidy synopsis.