Thoughts on Awards Campaigning Topic

schuyler101
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Quote: Originally posted by coldfoot on 5/02/2010there is also the possibility that the individual brings up a point that i failed to consider. nothing wrong with informative banter.



+1

i love the awards debates and campaigning

i see no problem with it, particularly if it brings up points that inattentive owners might not consider

maybe his hitter put up his numbers in an extreme pitchers park or someone else also won the gold glove at 2nd base and by any metric is one of the best fielding 2nd basemen in the league

gerald i can't believe you would immediately take a player off your ballot because the owner campaigned for him, is it really that bothersome?
5/3/2010 8:36 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By saintonan on 5/03/2010
Quote: Originally posted by deathinahole on 5/02/201
If they want to campaign for high demands from said fake player during contract time, freely allow them to.

Because, generally speaking, that's what major awards do.
How much difference does that really make? I extended my 3-time MVP and best hitter at age 30 last season, and he's got enough awards that you have to scroll down on the Awards and Accomplishments page to see them all. He extended for a non-outrageous amount (22M/3 including bonus, frontloaded). I wonder how much the demands of equal-overall-rating players differ if one has a roomful of hardware and the other doesn't
I should have rephrased it to

Because, generally speaking, that's what I think major awards do.

The way to verify would be to take anyone who's FA after an award season, and compare their demands to like players that didn't win an award.

Which, even in this sea of math nerds, has probably not been done.

Anecdotally, I feel it's true.
5/3/2010 9:14 AM
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What I love is the guy that campaigns for a player by pointing out which areas the player is good at, but then gets offended/defensive when you reply with some areas to consider why he shouldn't win the award.

Owner A: "My player accounted for 40% of my team's offense. Without him, we'd have been nothing".

Owner B: "Your team finished below .500. You were pretty much nothing with him".

Owner A: "Yeah, I guess my fake player didn't give good pre-game speeches to lead his teammates. <insert expletive here>"

Good times.
5/3/2010 10:47 AM
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I laugh at someone who campaigns for their player. I then go through and pick the best player for the award.
5/3/2010 11:08 AM
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I don't campaign but it seems to make it more fun when other people do. A good MVP or Cy Young arguement is part of real baseball, why not make it part of HD?
5/3/2010 11:13 AM
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I'll campaign so to speak. It usually consists of me stating that my player is the obvious choice for whatever award and, if he doesn't win, the process is a mockery. Then I'll diss a player if his owner decides to campaign for his guy. It's all in good fun. You really get nothing for an award(and I don't think you're punished at negotiations) so why not enjoy it for what it is?
5/3/2010 11:18 AM
deathinahole
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That's the main thing.

What usfbully is referring to on the previous page was me pumping a ROY candidate based on only the fact that he's mine. When he presented a guy that hit like a son of a gun all season as a better alternative, I stated that he had struck out no one and summarially dismissed him.

I don't think I properly warmed that league up to me.
5/3/2010 11:47 AM
usfbully
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Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/03/2010
That's the main thing.

What usfbully is referring to on the previous page was me pumping a ROY candidate based on only the fact that he's mine. When he presented a guy that hit like a son of a gun all season as a better alternative, I stated that he had struck out no one and summarially dismissed him.

I don't think I properly warmed that league up to me.



You have pumped Moose as well, but he does deserve it. If your team could score a run he would be a 20-25 game winner.
5/3/2010 11:52 AM
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Oh yea, Moose.

Moose is a God, and I'll probably cry real tears when he goes down with that career ending injury.
5/3/2010 11:53 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By usfbully on 5/03/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/03/2010

That's the main thing.

What usfbully is referring to on the previous page was me pumping a ROY candidate based on only the fact that he's mine. When he presented a guy that hit like a son of a gun all season as a better alternative, I stated that he had struck out no one and summarially dismissed him.

I don't think I properly warmed that league up to me.




You have pumped Moose as well, but he does deserve it. If your team could score a run he would be a 20-25 game winner.
I don't know exactly what I deserve but I do enjoy a good laugh.
5/3/2010 11:56 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/03/2010
Oh yea, Moose.

Moose is a God, and I'll probably cry real tears when he goes down with that career ending injury.

I have never been called God before except followed by damn and some unmentionables.
5/3/2010 11:57 AM
deathinahole
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And probably a rub and tug too.

We're taking about this Moose.

Moose_Morris

Rolled the dice on a trade and he's paid off...so far.
5/3/2010 11:58 AM
prezuiwf
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If that guy has a 1.64 ERA in over 200 innings and doesn't win the Cy Young because he doesn't have enough wins then I seriously doubt America's future.
5/3/2010 12:08 PM
moosep
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Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/03/2010
And probably a rub and tug too.

We're taking about this Moose.

Moose_Morris

Rolled the dice on a trade and he's paid off...so far.

Nice pitcher but can't I be a god? I kind of have my heart set on it now.
5/3/2010 12:43 PM
usfbully
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Havent you read the Bo Jackson threads in the classifieds? The only god in these parts are Miket
5/3/2010 12:46 PM
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