Anyone else think the press is dead now? Topic

reinsel
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Yeah, I think the pendulum is going to swing a little bit more into favor of man and zone, but that is ok, cause I would bet that before this:

50-60% of human teams were running a press or combo press. Now it will drop to 40%, which is better for all, and zone and straight man will make a bit of a comeback.

Zone was way out of favor at D1 anyway.
5/26/2010 6:46 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By Rails on 5/26/2010
Your pressing IQs are not great. His offensive IQs are better than your defensive IQs. You've got more ATH, he had more speed at the top even though the team speed might be comparable. He's got decent BH and PA.

Your opponent took 52 FGA. He was 5-9 against an open shot. The PBP did not indicate any shots over a dt or trap. I sincerely hope that seble didn't remove this valuable piece of information from the PBP (double team notation) that took years to add. I'm hoping that in this particular case you didn't successfully trap any shots or better--that he didn't force anything over a dt. (I also think that we should be given that as an option--to not shoot over a dt)

He was 5 of 9 on open shots and 24 of 43 against a defense that was not out of position (29-52 overall). There was virtually no difference in FG% between shooting an open shot and one against a normally guarded defense.

Most of his distribution went to Lewis--his SG. Lewis is 47/73 in ATH and SP. Your SG was 71/68 in those ratings with a 69 DE rating. Your SG played 21 minutes. Lewis played 28 so he was matched up with a backup SG (Hammons or someone else) for at least 7 minutes. Hammons is 40/62 in ATH/SP with a poor IQ and 54 DE rating. Lewis had a very high PE rating to go along with his ath and sp.

I think one difference was the rebounding. Your rebounding ratings are much, much higher. His team consisted of 8 Per players--mostly sim recruited. His guard rebounding ratings were much higher than yours and both teams' guards combined for 25 rebounds. Seems high.



5/26/2010 8:38 PM
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Interesting note about the shots over a dt or trap. In my exhibition game I got a new message reagding a player i was double teaming via Player Game Plan (I play zone).

The message said Kerrick attempts to pass over the double team and throws the ball out of bounds
5/26/2010 8:41 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tkimble on 5/26/2010I think with the new update it was to try to get teams to switch away from the press that truly don't recruit for it. If you get the most athletic guys, with decent defensive ratings, the press will probably work as before. With what I'm seeing, if you don't have very good to phenomenal ath and spd, a little bit of D, and good IQs, you're screwed. That's the way the press works in real life, and I guess that's the way Seble made it here.


As it should be.
5/26/2010 9:23 PM
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I think the IQs is what the problem is. It doesn't take 3+ seasons for a player to learn how to play press. It should only take a few weeks of practice for a player to understand positioning in a press. I've never liked how IQ was done, I've always felt IQ should be a regular rating like anything else with some guys being high IQ players and others not. Basketball offenses and defenses are not that complex, plenty of players who have good basketball knowledge can step onto a college campus never having played a certain offense and learn it extremely quickly, it won't take them years to have good knowledge of the offense or D, this isn't football with 200 page playbooks.
5/26/2010 9:39 PM
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