No you really don't understand. Great he named the Mets. Now name another team in the same year? I wasn't asking for 2 players I was asking for teams. And you Yankees don't count because last I checked Granderson and Arod aren't out for 200+ days. I'm just asking if anyone else notice that this seems to happen to a couple teams a year where their superstars go out for lengthy periods of time.

How many teams have two superstars in MLB?  

Posted by oriolemagic on 6/18/2010 12:46:00 PM (view original):
No you really don't understand. Great he named the Mets. Now name another team in the same year? I wasn't asking for 2 players I was asking for teams. And you Yankees don't count because last I checked Granderson and Arod aren't out for 200+ days. I'm just asking if anyone else notice that this seems to happen to a couple teams a year where their superstars go out for lengthy periods of time.

It seems that you're just trying to thinly veil a complaint thread about injuries.

If we said "Golly, you're right . . . there never has been two MLB teams with two superstars who have had concurrent major injuries in a single season" . . . where would you take this thread?

Bartolo Colon and Jake Peavy missed a lot of time for the White Sux last year.  There, now you have two teams with long-term injuries to important players.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/18/2010 12:50:00 PM (view original):
How many teams have two superstars in MLB?  

This is the answer. MLB teams don't have multiple guys putting up 50+ home runs, 140 ribbies year after year.

Nice try Mike.  Colon doesnt qualify as a superstar anymore, and Peavy was hurt when they traded for him.  Regardless, I am not coming off the way I wanted to, instead answering responses about small pieces of it so I digress..

Until MLB has the talent HBD has, you can't compare.

If the question is how often do some teams get hit far harder than others by injuries in MLB, I'd say the answer is every year. To limit it to superstars and try to reject examples based on how you define a superstar is ridiculous. As noted above, most MLB teams do not have two superstars. But teams lose 2-3-4 regular starters all the time, while others don't in the same season. Tampa made it to a World Series in no small part because its starting pitching rotation remained healthy all season. Neither the Red Sox nor Yankees had the same luck, and I'd wager that New York and Boston spent as much on training/medical as Tampa spent on its payroll. Fact: Players of all abilities get hurt. Fact: Sometimes a team will lose 3 or 4 players to injury in one season based on bad luck. Fact: Sometimes those unlucky teams' losses will be to 3 or 4 of their best players. Fact: In the same season, some teams will not have a regular starter miss significant time from injury. This is true in MLB, HBD or any realistic simulation.

I am not trying to compare them, someone used that as an excuse to why this happens and I was trying to show why its not comparable.  All I was asking is does anyone else notice that it seems that every year a team or two in each world will get really unlucky with injuries and have it hit them really hard, thats it.

But then you brought up MLB and why MLB don't have injuries like that. Can you see where you went wrong, no?

Posted by tecwrg on 6/18/2010 11:57:00 AM (view original):
I got hit hard with one of my teams this year. It happens.

It happens in real life, too. Look at the '09 Mets. I believe at one point they had Wright, Reyes, Santana and Beltran all on the DL at the same time.

I was responding to this post, brought up as to why it happens.

Okay man.

But then I guess I wouldnt agree with your theory that it goes form 1 team to another and those teams get hit harder.

Posted by oriolemagic on 6/18/2010 2:12:00 PM (view original):
I am not trying to compare them, someone used that as an excuse to why this happens and I was trying to show why its not comparable.  All I was asking is does anyone else notice that it seems that every year a team or two in each world will get really unlucky with injuries and have it hit them really hard, thats it.

"someone used that as an excuse to why this happens and I was trying to show why its not comparable".

What is the "excuse", what is it "not comparable" to, and why is it "not comparable"?

Posted by oriolemagic on 6/18/2010 11:33:00 AM (view original):
I know this will sound like another complaint about injuries, and it really isn't meant to be that.  From the last few seasons I am noticing that certain teams seem to get "picked" on each year.  It doesnt seem like its the same team each year but it seems like the ones that get hit get hit hard.  For example, San Antonio in our league last year lost two top pitchers and a top hitter.  This year my team has caught the bug and I have lost 3 top players under 26 years old and my starting shortstop.  The three top pitchers I lost, two of them were to year long injuries.

Im curious if other people have witnessed this kiss of death or if I am just seeing this from a small sample size and it doesnt all come down all at once?

OK, I'll answer this.

Small sample size.   No one cares about an injury to their 5th OF so it's passed over.  But, when someone loses their starting SS and their Ace SP, they take notice.   Injuries happen far too infrequently in HBD, in my opinion, and they do seem rather random.  However, when a team with solid depth loses a stud, they seldom flinch.  When a top-heavy team loses a stud, they point out how they're "picked on" by the mean sim.

Posted by oriolemagic on 6/18/2010 11:51:00 AM (view original):
No regardless of either.  I had low on both the last two years and increased it this year, while still lower then I would want this is the year I get hit.  I realize that both play a factor into injuries, but what I am saying is that it seems you dont get any injuries for a while then you get hit with a bunch of devastating injuries in one year.  If I had these three injuries over the last three years I wouldnt have blinked an eye, but to have them all happen within a month is a little crazy.  Not to mention I have seen this happen to two other teams as well, so my question was do others notice that they seem to happen a lot in the same year to the same team?

The answer clearly is yes, others do see this "happen a lot in the same year to the same team." In 32-team HBD leagues, randomness means that just about every season a team or two will be hit hard by severe injuries and another team or two will not.