Posted by willsauve on 9/14/2010 1:18:00 PM (view original):
One of the stipulations for joining the new worlds was that you couldnt drop an existing team. You should maybe call these people out in the forums if they went ahead and did it anyway.

The "don't drop an existing team" rule is followed as well as posted speed limits on the highway.  Unless somebody in authority is watching and doing something about it, it's more of a "point and laugh" kind of rule.

Right.

"Hey, you left another league that isn't ours. You're gone!"

Highly unlikely.

Posted by willsauve on 9/14/2010 1:18:00 PM (view original):
One of the stipulations for joining the new worlds was that you couldnt drop an existing team. You should maybe call these people out in the forums if they went ahead and did it anyway.

um, there are lots of reasons for dropping one team and adding another, such as being stuck in a world with harth...that alone is a reason to drop and pick a new team.

No one is every stuck in a world.

My point is if you list something as a rule and then dont enforce that rule, then none of the rules should be enforceable.  The commish shouldnt be be allowed to pick and choose which rules are real and which are not.  I understand that it would be a unpopular decision to boot somebody from a world for quitting a different world.

That's a WifS "rule".   It's not a Moonlight Graham or Cooperstown rule.   I'm not booting a good owner who joins a new world and drops Vin Scully.    If WifS says they're replacing said owner in MG, I want to know with who and why this is a good thing for me.

But what's the upside, other than moral integrity?

Any rule relevant to the well being or competitive balance of a league is going to be enforced by a commish, because the downside it keeping someone that will pull down the league into 'tardsville.

What's the downside to the league? What is the carrot that would make a commish go "this guy needs to go"?

Thus, the rule was faulty and unenforcable at the start. "yea yea, I'll keep my other team".

Posted by MikeT23 on 9/14/2010 1:53:00 PM (view original):
That's a WifS "rule".   It's not a Moonlight Graham or Cooperstown rule.   I'm not booting a good owner who joins a new world and drops Vin Scully.    If WifS says they're replacing said owner in MG, I want to know with who and why this is a good thing for me.

I think the owner should be replaced from the new world. If the commish is going to send out rules that are stated as such.

1) 62 game win floor
2) Cash in trades cant exceed the traded players salary
3) you cant quit an existing world to join this one.
4)....

 Then, I say that you have to enforce rule #3 if its broken, becasue its not a WIS rule its a rule that was included in the new world. How can you enforce rule #1 if you're not going to enforce rules 2,3,4....

Who has the interest in whether or not an owner joins new world B and then drops old world A?  Certainly not the commish of world B.  It's the commish of world A who should be ******.

Not sure why you're thinking the commish of the new world should care.

Also, especially at a time when worlds are having trouble filling, I don't think that many commishes are looking for reasons to boot owners from their own world.  At the present time, that's kind of counter-productive.

Let's keep in mind that there are many reasons to drop a world, too.   I joined Steinbrenner because the commish asked me.  I wasn't looking for a world.  Hamilton is trying to fill 7 spots.    If Hamilton goes public or brings in 7 brand-spanking new aliases, errrr owners, I'll leave it.  It has nothing to do with Steinbrenner(which I might end up leaving if it gets 'tarded up).   So there would be no point in removing me from SteinB except to **** me off.

What they could do is require a deposit.  Have anyone joining a new world "deposit" $100.    If they're reported for dropping a world, they forfeit it.  If they leave the new world before the required 3 seasons, they forfeit it.   I bet that would change a couple of things.

Except now you're in the same scenario as "make owners pay for multiple seasons".

You're just asking for that league to go full blown Ford.

That's entirely possible.    I just think owners would be much more hesitant to even join a new world.    A)  You're not buying credits.  You're making a deposit.   B)  You're taking a chance that your current worlds don't 'tard up so bad that you'll leave or that the new world won't 'tard up so bad you can't stay.   C)  You still have to plunk down $100 to buy your S2/3 of the new world and the next two seasons of your current world(if you only have 1 other world).

So, if you have two worlds only, it's just a break even proposition.  If you have 3 or more, you're better off losing your deposit.

Don't like it. I have spoken.

Don't care.  You're a 'tard.

Plus it has zero chance of happening.  But I know I wouldn't join a world with a bunch of unknowns if I had to put $100 down.   And, if I were to even consider it, I'd drop to the two worlds I commish(I know who gets in and that we won't go public) before doing so.