In my vision, the only change throughout the game would be that the traditional Overall Rating would be replaced with a new custom value from 0-100 (based on either a default formula or your custom formula). 

One question I have is, would it be ok to not show the current Overall rating (which is the sum of individual ratings), or is that still a necessary thing to see?  I know  a lot of coaches are used to looking at that number to judge whether a player might be recruitable for them.

Posted by seble on 1/26/2011 4:43:00 PM (view original):
In my vision, the only change throughout the game would be that the traditional Overall Rating would be replaced with a new custom value from 0-100 (based on either a default formula or your custom formula). 

One question I have is, would it be ok to not show the current Overall rating (which is the sum of individual ratings), or is that still a necessary thing to see?  I know  a lot of coaches are used to looking at that number to judge whether a player might be recruitable for them.

As a GD player, I use a spreadsheet and weighted attributes, so would be great to see it and be able to sort by my own custom rating. As a newbie still learning HD, I would still value the overall rating as it provides a guideline to recruitable players a division up.

Would just adding a new field called "Weighted Rating" in addition to the Overall Rating be a better solution (and adding the capability to do a recruiting search and filtering on this new field).

If your thinking about replacing the overall rating with this new weighted one, I would think it would also affect how I view opponent's roster as well which could skew my perception of how good that team is (using your example of different weightings for different offenses/defenses).

Since this *might* be only a recruiting feature, you might consider just making it something you can enter on the recruiting search page and allow sorting based upon the weighted values but still show the overall ratings as is (so weighted ratings would only appear on the recruiting search page as a column).

Agreed.  I have to say -- I'd be bummed if there was no longer an overall rating; it's still a good tool to use when filtering through players quickly and in volume.  

In addition, would there no longer be overall ratings for each player on the team popup page?  Would you no longer calculate a team rating?  Because even though it's not exact, I use those extensively when scanning possible opponents for non-con games, or just to get a sense of how good different teams are.  

I think it's a great idea, but couldn't the overall rating be kept, while just adding a spot on the player page for "custom" rating, which would only be for personal use?

I'd like to see the current overall rating stick around.

I like the idea of a custom rating for recruiting purposes. It would be very nice to be able to input what you deem to be critical and then sort from there. However as has been stated some ratings values may change based on the type of Off/Def you play so would you be able to set up more than 1 custom rating, say one for each possible combo of Off and Def? If this custom rating is going to be applied to all rating in the game (i.e. other teams when you go to gameplan) Then more than 1 rating will be necessary.

Also I agree that the current overall rating must be kept. Plus I don't think that newbies would be able to set an accurate vale to each rating and therefore might really be getting screwed when trying to recruite or evaluate how good another team is.

Just my 2 cents.

Posted by seble on 1/26/2011 4:43:00 PM (view original):
In my vision, the only change throughout the game would be that the traditional Overall Rating would be replaced with a new custom value from 0-100 (based on either a default formula or your custom formula). 

One question I have is, would it be ok to not show the current Overall rating (which is the sum of individual ratings), or is that still a necessary thing to see?  I know  a lot of coaches are used to looking at that number to judge whether a player might be recruitable for them.

I prefer the overall rating to still be in play.... although if I set all parameters to 1 I should in theory get something back based on overall ratings, right?

hey seble i think this is one of the most important things for me, especially at d2/3:

if you're going to do this, i think it's necessary to do this for recruiting (make it so that you can show your "custom" output in another column). and IF that is the case, can we have a column where we add the value we want for the different potentials?

so, you'd have some kind of a multiplier thing that we could use: for guards, multiply speed *1.7, ath *1.5 for value or something, and then we could ALSO do a potential multiplier-- let's say a coach wants to call any high potential area "+23", some other coaches think it takes them too long to get there, so they want to call high potential areas "+20", another coach thinks that PER is on steroids these days so they want to call PER HIGH areas "+35"...

if this were implemented, it would make things much easier.

as is, what you appear to be talking about is some kind of personal barometer to rate players (instead of overall rating), which sounds nice, but frankly, not useful at all. if it doesn't have to do wth recruiting, it just won't be useful.

please do not remove anything. if you want to add this, ok, but I would not like the "old"  to go away.

Posted by seble on 1/26/2011 3:26:00 PM (view original):
Since you guys might not notice a new Dev Blog post, I'll post here too:

One idea I'd like to throw out for feedback.  I'm thinking of adding a function for a coach to set a custom formula for calculating overall rating.  This could potentially be set by position.  So basically you'd put a weight on each rating and then the formula would calculate an overall rating from 0 to 100.  If you generally run a fast break or press, you might value stamina more than another coach.  If you're more defensive minded you might put more weight on Defense and Athleticism. 

Then, anywhere you view a player's ratings (profile, recruiting search, etc.), the overall rating you see would be based on your custom formula.  This could make player evaluation much easier and more straightforward.

Thoughts?

i would absolutely love it, except for maybe the fact that everyone and their mother who didnt do stuff like that before would be 50 times better at the game because of it. lol.

actually i cant imagine it including potential so there's a slight edge to be had there. for me at least.

Posted by seble on 1/26/2011 4:43:00 PM (view original):
In my vision, the only change throughout the game would be that the traditional Overall Rating would be replaced with a new custom value from 0-100 (based on either a default formula or your custom formula). 

One question I have is, would it be ok to not show the current Overall rating (which is the sum of individual ratings), or is that still a necessary thing to see?  I know  a lot of coaches are used to looking at that number to judge whether a player might be recruitable for them.

could the "overall rating" be listed for every position, and not just their high school listed position?

just to be overly clear, joe schmoe "pg" could have ratings like
PG 88
SG 93
SF 85
PF 46
C 30

PS can the 'conference stats only' box be unchecked by default please?

i like the concept, but think it needs to include potentials (once they've been scouted).

i think without the inclusion of potential there is not nearly as much value to this. Is it possible/included? Otherwise, this becomes a great tool to decide who to scout, and is otherwise useless...

Posted by seble on 1/26/2011 4:43:00 PM (view original):
In my vision, the only change throughout the game would be that the traditional Overall Rating would be replaced with a new custom value from 0-100 (based on either a default formula or your custom formula). 

One question I have is, would it be ok to not show the current Overall rating (which is the sum of individual ratings), or is that still a necessary thing to see?  I know  a lot of coaches are used to looking at that number to judge whether a player might be recruitable for them.

sounds good to me seble - it totally makes sense to provide a weighted eval for the traits that are important for each off/def system.  Bring it on!

and keep the overall rating -- good way to group potential recruits for D2/D3

How about the ability to see each individual rating on the summary page of recruiting?..that'd be nice....that would make comparing potential recruits a whole lot easier.