Ok I ended up making a diff deal. I traded 

Player #1   is 22yo    4 Year Pro     0  ML Prospect 

   
                                        OV             Dur           Hel          Stam          Con         L        R         Pow         GB         1           2           3         4          5   

His  Spring #4               74              29            87               86             82          51      59         84            81         91       66          34        53      36

Projected                       83              29            92                90             94          59      68          89           88         96       72         40        58       40


Player #2  24yo    5 Years Pro    0 Years ML  I am only going to put one set of number seeing he is just about done going up. 

                                          OV         Ra          GL         ARM       AC          DUR            HEL          CON        POW          L          R            EYE              BR

Current  Numbers          70          72          65            55           57           62                80              81            74             73        66            74                 46 

He will be great when he is on the field. He is going to play the role of a supper sub on the team he is going to. 


The guy I picked up  21yo     1  Year pro    0  ML  Prospect 

                                         
                                       OV           Dur           Hel            Stam         Con        L            R          Pow          GB           1          2          3           4          

His Spring #1               67             23             88              56              71        69         67           82            71           70       67        45        51

Projected                      80             24              94              64              85         79        80           93            79          80        75        54        60

He may not deep into games. (I am hoping for 6ip a game) But he will be a much stronger pitcher.

Thanks for all you input and help. I feel like I made a much better deal with your feed back. 

That should be a far better deal for you than the one you initially posted.  Well done!

Hmm... it's a good deal, but you were clearly winning the first deal you posted, because you were getting a mid-rotation SP for fungible assets (an SP5 and a mopup).  You're getting much more here, but...

a)  the LF you gave up is not trivial.  450-500 PA of a good starting LF is a real asset.
b)  I don't think it's typical for a 21 yo to gain 8 points of stamina (especially with one offseason already gone), although I'd certainly be willing to see examples to the contrary.  At DUR/ST 24/61 he's about 150 innings of excellent but not truly elite pitcher.

Still a win, and reasonable for you to like it better than the other one, but I don't know that I would call it "far better."

Posted by dedelman on 2/10/2011 4:47:00 PM (view original):
Hmm... it's a good deal, but you were clearly winning the first deal you posted, because you were getting a mid-rotation SP for fungible assets (an SP5 and a mopup).  You're getting much more here, but...

a)  the LF you gave up is not trivial.  450-500 PA of a good starting LF is a real asset.
b)  I don't think it's typical for a 21 yo to gain 8 points of stamina (especially with one offseason already gone), although I'd certainly be willing to see examples to the contrary.  At DUR/ST 24/61 he's about 150 innings of excellent but not truly elite pitcher.

Still a win, and reasonable for you to like it better than the other one, but I don't know that I would call it "far better."

This is only my 4th season. But ts a 4th season of a new world.

" because you were getting a mid-rotation SP for fungible assets (an SP5 and a mopup)"

Not knowing for sure if this is true. But I am guessing that the level of talent in a new world. And the level in a world that has been going 20+ seasons.  Is a lot diffrent.

Maybe its me. But I feel like these guys are a lot better then a SP5 and Mopup. And I can say the same about the guy I got.

This is an excellent point.  When I read ratings I assume talent leels are the same across worlds, and they're clearly not.

And to clarify-- the guy you got, in the actual trade you made, is an excellent pitcher in any world I can imagine.