Posted by kujayhawk on 6/16/2011 6:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 6/16/2011 5:12:00 PM (view original):
slow growth occurs when the category is in single digits, not teens. Teens is when growth picks up and hits normal. 

I don't think this is correct.  Although we might be speaking different languages here.

The single digit growth is super-slow.  And what was "fixed" in the update that prevents single digit high potential players.

But the teens are still slow.  Just not as slow as single digits.  It's based around the bell curve still so at minimum it is slower in theory but I also think you notice the difference as well.

For me, I don't think growth becomes "normal" until it gets to around 27-28.

Don't want to get too sidetracked by this.  Bottom line is that I wanted to give minutes to all the categories since they were all high potential and I want to be able to make use of them all as a small forward.

If you want this player to be playable at the sf or pf position at the conclusion of next season, the best thing to do is to change your practice plan from the evenly distributed 10-12min at 7 or 8 categories and load up 18-20 min at conditioning and reb. He's currently too slow to play sf, not enough rebounding to play PF. I would change the practice plan now to gain more spd and reb during the offseason. If you continue the same practice plan, he's not gonna be useful until his JR* year, and possibly until his SR*.

yeah, that "fix" didn't really help anything... now the crappy recruits don't even have potential in their crappy categories...

I agree with the general consensus-- play him at backup SF, increase his Conditioning a fair bit and REB a little to the detriment of PER and LP (they'll still gain a little at 5 & 5, he doesn't need to score this season, just not get outrun all the time...)

I'd try and get him 10-12 minutes and just stretch your other guy a little thin-- play the starter at Getting Tired, maybe consider a G with low REB when facing quality press teams.

Good luck-- I signed a similar high-potential guy this season at Hobart, am waiting to see how he turns out- 9 high potential categories were more than I could turn down.

Posted by tianyi7886 on 6/16/2011 5:12:00 PM (view original):
slow growth occurs when the category is in single digits, not teens. Teens is when growth picks up and hits normal. 

Growth is slower in the single digits, but still slow in the teens. For example, a player at 15 will very clearly improve more slowly than a player at 35 (all else being equal, of course).

And kujay, I have agreed with those who've suggested that the way to go here would've been to focus on a handful of core categories for a certain position then to just get him very minimal gains across the board.

I don't see much of a problem with the guy, if you don't like him cut him, I am in d3 in that world, I'd gladly take him.  I would not hesitate to start him all 4 seasons at SF, I looked at your team, he only has to be the backup for two seasons, then can start for two from what I can tell, perfect really.  My lakeland team has a player like him, only my guy is much worse, he has been a backup SF for 3 seasons now, he is only a 10 rebounder, but has very good defense and ath, also he was a single digit in PA / PER when I recruited him, he has improved since then some, but the improvement has really had no effect on his stats, he is not out there for offense - I did not this season, but his first season I did a plus / minus for when he was on the floor for about 8 games, he was more positive than my team was, although teams like mine tend to do well in mop up time, so that may be misleading - but certainly no cause for alarm, players like him are the reason we are given control of distro - when I coach real life, I often start a player like him, although I tend to think speed and defense track more closely real life than ath & def, but I appreciate the sentiment of linkage of something to defense like speed or ath - take a look at the player I am describing:

http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=7797&pid=1772618