This is a senior on my D3 team: http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1927807

No battle.  Cost me probably $4K-$5K to pull down.  You can't tell me some D1 team couldn't use this guy off the bench, at the least.

I'm no expert on D1 but I still am shaking my head that this player ended up on a D3 team recruited by Sim AI.  He seems like he'd get PT on a number of D1 teams in Allen.

Posted by tianyi7886 on 12/27/2011 8:57:00 PM (view original):
And I believe that D1 teams should be searching lower. Check out the following two players. 

Player 1, playing for a D3 team. This is a D1 calibre player.
http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1924453

And you and getiguy are two of the reasons I'll probably never win the NW Conference tournament :)

Posted by milkamania on 12/27/2011 6:18:00 PM (view original):
This is directed to D1 coaches with prestige of C+ and better.  Last year I lost a recruit that was on my D2 search list (with my Holy Family team) to a mid major D1 school with a B- prestige.  I was shocked he searched the D2 lists with that prestige, but he sitemailed me and said that the recruit was on his D1 list.  I couldn't believe he was looking at recruits barely above 500 even if the recruit somehow showed as D1 to his mid major and D2 to my D2 team, but to each his own. 

Now this year a conference mate lost a recruit to a D1 school with a B- prestige for a PF he had already pulled down with a sub 500 rating.  Now the guy is on the D1 list, but why the heck is a B- prestige even looking at sub 500 guys??   He has great potential and could hit 750, but that's probably only a 1 year starter on a good D1 team.

The question is, when recruiting at D1, do you generally look at everyone on the list, or is there a minimum value overall that you start at??  

I think I am DI coach.  

I just signed this guys (OVR 495)

I had a team in Rupp CACC (University of the Sciences) for a number of years. I am not a very good coach, just look at my D1 record. The borderline D1/D2 recruit with lots of high potentials is essential for me, particularly in the mid-Atlantic. There are so many higher prestige D1 teams in that area. If I go up against a B- prestige, I am not going to have a geographic advantage and have to double their spending. Likewise, the B- teams in this region (like Princeton) have a similar problem. They either have to battle the other B- prestige schools within 300 miles (there are lots of them) or have to battle local schools with a better than B- prestige and outspend them. 

It is not hard at all to understand why Princeton went after this guy, especially if he used up most of his cash on an unsuccessful battle.

b

Athleticism 45
5 AVERAGE GROWTH LEFT....still hoping to hit 60.

Speed 37
2
Average growth left....still hoping to get to 45

Rebounding 79
9
HIGH growth left....will get to 99

Defense 43
8
AVERAGE left....will top out around 55.

Shot Blocking 57
8
HIGH LEFT...hoping to get to 80.

Low-post 56
17
HIGH LEFT.... to get to 80.

Perimeter 9
-1
l-1
l



Ball Handling 28 HIGH LEFT Maybe 50?
Passing 21 HIgh left Maybe 50?
Work Ethic 56
Stamina 87
3

Durability 34

Doesn't look like a D1 player to me. 

These are the bigs I signed uncontested with B-. 

Marvin Earls

Fr.

C

68

40

89

53

79

38

20

38

32

48

69

34

D+

608

Dennis Seaborn

Fr.

C

68

22

94

69

90

66

35

18

24

30

61

20

C-

597

Well, they are certainly better!

This guy is definitely a step down for me but I only had a little cash left and the concept of "uncontested" is rare in the NY area.   Between the Big East, the A-10, the other Ivies,  the Patriot and an occasional MEAC  it's rough if you make a  mistake.

Michael Lawson
| Recruited By: Trentonjoe PF639
RatingsStatisticsGame LogAwards

Athleticism 50
(average) 6

Speed 40
(low) 2

Rebounding 90
(average)9

Defense 52
(average)8

Shot Blocking 68
(average)9

Low-post 77
(waverage) 17

Perimeter 9
(low)-1

Ball Handling 34
(average)5

Passing 27
(average)6

Work Ethic 60
4

Stamina 89
4

Durability 43

I'm in the "recruit low and find guys with tons of potential" camp. It helped me build up my Vanderbilt SEC team pretty fast, though I will also have pretty rough seasons when I don't have many upperclassmen. It's a strategy that pays off when you have 4 or 5 player senior classes. 

Well, after five seasons this guy is a pre season All American at Princeton.

Athleticism	63
Speed	44
Rebounding	99
Defense	60
Shot Blocking	79
Low-post	96
Perimeter	10
Ball Handling	48
Passing	41
Work Ethic	75
Stamina	97
Durability	58

I don't think he is quite that good but he is certainly an average DI post player.

needs better ath to be a starter IMO, great backup to dominate boards and pump in 10 quick points off the bench though. I'd take him. Can back up both bigs. Probably got him extremely cheaply in the first place. Don't see a down side... but then again I don't know how to recruit at the elite level yet, so...