Atta boy, Mark Topic

For starters...anytime a player/manager is thrown out within 5 seconds of a disputed call, or when they're tossed for something that's not an ejectionable offense. I'm sure I could find more criteria, but even going by those two points alone, we see plenty. It's very obvious that certain umps, in certain situations are just looking for the slightest reason to give someone the hook and exercise their authority over the game.
8/19/2012 12:32 PM
What is an objectionable offense?
8/19/2012 4:18 PM
I said ejectionable. There are certain things in the rule book that a player is not to be ejected for, only fined, such as throwing a glove or a helmet.
8/19/2012 4:31 PM

Sorry, what is an ejectionable offesne? I am currious as to what the list is or where you are comming up with this idea. (not judging one way or another I am just currious)

8/19/2012 4:34 PM
8/19/2012 4:56 PM
No, you just like to stir **** up. I'll humour you and find the rule, but I trust players' and broadcasters' knowledge of the rules over yours any day of the week, any week of the year. An equipment violation is not an ejectionable offense.
8/19/2012 5:18 PM
It's a goddam link to the official rules.  Find a better source.

Anyway, "equipment violation" is not throwing a glove.   
8/19/2012 5:32 PM
I can't find a copy of the MLB Umpires Manual online, but apparently throwing equipment is supposed to be noted by the umpire and submitted for a fine post-game, unless it's flagrant (ie: thrown at an ump - Brett Lawrie) or accompanied by words/showing up an umpire. 

You could argue Reynolds was showing up the umps, but considering the only ump that ran him was one that wasn't involved in the play and one he wasn't even looking at, and he hadn't even said word yet, it seems pretty clear Carapazza overstepped his bounds in that instance.
8/19/2012 5:33 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/19/2012 5:32:00 PM (view original):
It's a goddam link to the official rules.  Find a better source.

Anyway, "equipment violation" is not throwing a glove.   
It's in the umpires manual, not the mlb rule book, you tool. Do you think that Section 9 of the MLB Rules contains everything in an umps job description?

For someone who talks like such a know-it-all all the time, you may want to make sure you know the extent of what you're talking about before you run your mouth.
8/19/2012 5:34 PM
" Per the MLBUM, any player throwing equipment in protest of an umpire's call shall be fined and, if flagrant, ejected.

Throwing equipment at the professional level can be considered an equipment violation at the discretion of the umpires. They can either call it a violation (point at it and acknowledge it, write it up and MLB will assess a fine). Or they can choose to eject.

Usually if they just throw equipment in disgust it's a fine. If some verbiage is included it will result in an ejection."

This is from an umping website. Doesn't make it gospel, but again, I trust it far more than MikeT's "vast" knowledge of umpiring.
8/19/2012 5:36 PM
I don't think any handbook will contain everything in an ump's job description.

You're going to find a lot of "discretion" mentioned. 

FWIW, the more you post, the more you contradict your "Equipment violations are not an ejectionable offense" stance.
8/19/2012 5:40 PM
You didn't post any of the posts from the same site/thread that agreed with the ejection.  Odd...
8/19/2012 5:40 PM
God, do you really have nothing better to do than moke people and argue in circles? Anytime it's proven you have no clue what you're talking about, you either change the argument or start from scratch.

All my posts supported that throwing a glove, helmet, etc., in and of itself, is a fine, not an ejection. I know you're just a hick trucker, but it wouldn't kill you to actually learn to read and comprehend what people are saying.
8/19/2012 5:42 PM
Is this your post?

" Per the MLBUM, any player throwing equipment in protest of an umpire's call shall be fined and, if flagrant, ejected.

Throwing equipment at the professional level can be considered an equipment violation at the discretion of the umpires. They can either call it a violation (point at it and acknowledge it, write it up and MLB will assess a fine). Or they can choose to eject.

Usually if they just throw equipment in disgust it's a fine. If some verbiage is included it will result in an ejection."

8/19/2012 5:44 PM
Posted by AlCheez on 8/19/2012 5:40:00 PM (view original):
You didn't post any of the posts from the same site/thread that agreed with the ejection.  Odd...
Ya, you're right...why would I take the word of an umpire/the ump's manual over a few know-it-all fans like MikeT
8/19/2012 5:45 PM
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