Posted by colonels19 on 10/28/2012 11:12:00 PM (view original):
where were/are they in the projection report?

81

13-14 Elms from the same conference was 82.

Incredible how similar Farmington and Ark, Monticello are.  Monticello was 82.

Posted by kujayhawk on 10/28/2012 11:17:00 PM (view original):
I'm not going to pretend that I'm all that special of a coach or that my team is all that amazing, but I have a D3 squad that has 59 ATH and 62 DEF.  Both rankings would put me in the top 25 of D2 teams.  I'm in the same D3 conference with Maine, Farmington.  The conference is good enough that my team ended up losing 7 times in conference play.   One of our other teams is run by a terrific coach, has a team overall rating of 615, and ended up losing 9 (!) times to conference foes.

Just because Maine, Farmington only won twice in conference play, it doesn't mean they aren't one of the top 96 teams in D3.  And has been pointed out, they've already won two games in the PIT.

I'm biased since I'm sort of standing up for my conference mate here.  But at the same time I really don't think restricting this team from the postseason is a good idea.  It isn't like it is easy to still be ranked highly in the Projection Report with a 10-17 record.

The one thing that might make sense is maybe making some kind of eligibility for D1.  A 10-17 team making the postseason is almost for sure going to come from a BCS conference and that team benefits from baseline prestige as well as the big recruiting benefits that come from the money the BCS conferences make.  If they can't do better than 10-17, I'm not going to shed tears.  The D2 and D3 teams don't get that benefit so I don't see any problem with a 10-17 team going to the postseason from the lesser divisions.

I think placing restrictions like you're suggesting is a bad idea, but that's just my personal opinion.  To paraphrase, just because a team went 10-17 in D1 and only won 2 conference games doesn't mean they aren't one of the 96 best teams in D1.  Right?

Emy -- I said "might make sense" to "maybe make" some restrictions on D1.  I'm not sold on the idea myself.  Really just wanted to say that if you are going to do it anywhere, it probably should be at D1.  But like I said, I'm not going to shed tears over a 10-17 team from the Big East missing out on a PIT bid.  They will have $40,000 in recruiting to wipe away any tears on their end.

And as a followup, the conference with Maine, Farmington now has 6 of the teams in the Elite Eight.  The division that Farmington plays has 4 teams in the Elite 8.  So 10 of Farmington's losses were to Elite 8 teams.  Another 2 were to the team with the #5 RPI.

Right now, the conference has RPI #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, and #6.

Farmington has a good team.  They were just stuck being in one of the all-time great seasons for a D3 conference.  (Looks like the conference RPI is going to finish somewhere between 3-6 on the all-time list.)

I don't think. I was that terrible either. Probably punched my pt ticket by beating one of those teams.(elms)

I don't think anyone is questioning that the NAC is a good conference, but since this thread is still front page I couldn't help but post that we just put 3 thru to the Final 4.

In Knight a 6-21 team from the mighty SCIAC once made the D3 PIT (season 42):

http://whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/History.aspx?tid=13645

It's Caltech, so figure they hacked the WCAA computers.