And it begins

I guess rather than a call to focus on things other than me, this thread has become about getting me permabanned and using profanity in violation of terms of use.

Ironic. Actually wait, no it's not, it's exactly what I would have expected. The hatred some have in their hearts for me spills into every thread, even threads devised specifically to implore people to take advantage of access to seble rather than directing their ire toward me.

Meanwhile, I've actually been making suggestions and giving feedback on suggestions; just what the original poster has suggested we all should do.

Etta's most recent posts have not been bad......

Posted by ettaexpress on 4/27/2014 3:55:00 PM (view original):
I guess rather than a call to focus on things other than me, this thread has become about getting me permabanned and using profanity in violation of terms of use.

Ironic. Actually wait, no it's not, it's exactly what I would have expected. The hatred some have in their hearts for me spills into every thread, even threads devised specifically to implore people to take advantage of access to seble rather than directing their ire toward me.

Meanwhile, I've actually been making suggestions and giving feedback on suggestions; just what the original poster has suggested we all should do.

deleted my last - had you blocked and hadn't seen the recent content of your posts. Thank you for your recent shift in posting philosophy. That is not snark, it is sincere. 

water under the bridge?

I'm trying. I'm not perfect. But I'm not convinced everyone is returning the courtesy of trying.

Posted by ettaexpress on 4/27/2014 5:08:00 PM (view original):
I'm trying. I'm not perfect. But I'm not convinced everyone is returning the courtesy of trying.

all you can do is try - all any of us can do I suppose. best advice as always, and advice I obviously rarely follow is ignore the haters and stay the course. 

Posted by ettaexpress on 4/27/2014 12:06:00 AM (view original):
Why are you so keen to turn away a paying customer? Isn't that kind of against the interests of the site?

I would turn a new paying customer away if he/she was "ruining" the "experience" for the seasoned vets who have poured 4 or 5 figs into this site, that enjoy and are loyal to the game.

You seem unpleasable and I find your "wants" for this game to be quite detrimental and off the wall.

If you've actually been trying and it shows up (which some coaches seem to be saying it has) then I don't have a problem with it, we can have discussions and disagreements. But there's just a huge sense of disrespect I feel in the tone of your posts when I read them, and it makes me feel like you'd rather get in arguments than discussions sometimes. 

Posted by mikvitu on 4/27/2014 11:35:00 PM (view original):
If you've actually been trying and it shows up (which some coaches seem to be saying it has) then I don't have a problem with it, we can have discussions and disagreements. But there's just a huge sense of disrespect I feel in the tone of your posts when I read them, and it makes me feel like you'd rather get in arguments than discussions sometimes. 

This is EXACTLY how I feel about it.

Actually, working in retail, if one paying customer is ruining the experience for a large number of other paying customers, yes, I would turn away a paying customer. For example, if you have a restaurant and a guy - who payed for his meal - was being loud and disruptive at his table and annoying all of my other customers? I might just ask him to leave. If he kept coming repeatedly and doing the same thing? I might ask him not to come back.

Posted by llamanunts on 4/27/2014 9:16:00 AM (view original):
I believe a forum ban is justified. The forums are valuable and mostly civil without you. With you, every thread turns to crap. You're toxic.

You've had three chances. I've submitted a ticket as well.

And then things changed and etta stopped lashing out in every thread.  I stand by the validity of this previous comment *at the time it was written.*

As of this moment, I no longer believe a forum ban is justified.  I reserve the right to change my mind.

"I reserve the right to change my mind"

Words to live by there! :)

Part of the issue in situations involving name calling, misunderstood posts, provocative posts, etc. is the anonymity.

I think most folks would agree that if we had to share our actual names the behavior would improve immensely.

I am not advocating for actual names to be used.... but I personally try to post things that I would not be ashamed of saying if my family read them... or a boss, etc.

I also think that if forced to meet each other in person things would end up much more civil. I have found in work and personal life that face to face meetings are far superior to written communication in conflict situations (especially if excessive alcohol isn't involved, nor firearms).

With that in mind, I am proposing the first ever "Hoops Dynasty:  Can't we all just get along?!" conference!

You're just using the firearms wrong. If everyone aims the same direction (along as that's not another person), it can be a great bonding experience! 

Alcohol and firearms together...that rarely goes well. Hope this helps you in planning your conference.

Posted by rednu on 4/26/2014 8:50:00 PM (view original):
Seriously people, Seble comes out of his den, doesn't see his shadow to get scared for another 6 months of inactivity and every thread on here that's attempting to help the game is now down-trending because folks are in a ******* match on six different fronts now. Both attempts to comment on Seble's April 24th thing are down trending. Nacho's excellent post on user polls (the one that got all the options entered ;) )  is similarly down. Sad to see this when activity from the game's developer has been languishing in the Twilight Zone for the prior 16 months.

We need to take advantage while we can. It might be 2016 before we get our next opportunity.

Very well put. Let's all put some pressure on these guys. This game is so great and a few EASY changes can really make it even better.