unless i'm misunderstanding, the OP is just kinda irked that they were over 2.0 for the semester at mid-term, he compensated by adding minutes, and then they ended up with even lower semester GPAs then what they were trending towards before he added any SH minutes. that doesn't make a whole lot of sense in general, so if that's the case i do sympathize with the OP. kinda illogical, but i guess there is some randomness involved in the way GPAs are calculated.

Posted by bathtubhippo on 1/15/2016 4:10:00 PM (view original):
unless i'm misunderstanding, the OP is just kinda irked that they were over 2.0 for the semester at mid-term, he compensated by adding minutes, and then they ended up with even lower semester GPAs then what they were trending towards before he added any SH minutes. that doesn't make a whole lot of sense in general, so if that's the case i do sympathize with the OP. kinda illogical, but i guess there is some randomness involved in the way GPAs are calculated.

I don't think you misunderstand the OP at all. I think the point most are making is that he received notice that some of his player's were in danger of becoming ineligible, he tried to get by on the cheap and because they were seniors he thought he could.  I think what I would say, and what many others appear to be saying, is that simply adding study hall minutes isn't always enough if you weren't giving him enough minutes to begin with. He simply didn't raise the minutes high enough and did so at his own peril. I wouldn't have been running a season with a guy who was important to me and at the 2.0 GPA threshold on less than 8 and if I wasn't I certainly would have raised it to that level as soon as I got the warning message from my assistant. Even utilizing the chart I referenced in my last post I still occasionally get the warning message from my assistant. In that case I raise the SH up 1 or 2 but I never have it at less than what is dictated in that chart.in the first place.

Yeah, I get that I was being stupid, mainly I'm just mad cuz it was my 3 best guards.

Posted by possumfiend on 1/15/2016 3:44:00 PM (view original):
The following is from the Player's Guide (https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/help/guide.aspx)  

I think it came from Iguana's practice minute guide and it indicates he "stole it" from Oldresorter.  I have always followed this for SH minutes ... it may be a little overkill but I've never had a player go ineligible with this method either.  Keep in mind ONLY the Freshman season utilizes the High School GPA ... thereafter utilize the college GPA.

The last thing we'll cover before moving on is Study Hall minutes. During the course of the season, you will receive 2 mid-term reports and 2 final grade E-mails regarding your players. The mid-term reports are simply giving you updates on how your players are performing in the classroom, giving you a chance to adjust minutes if need be. However, if any of your players fall below a 2.0 for his final grade, he will be declared academically ineligible. If this is the first semester, he will have the chance to come back just before the Conference Tournament begins, assuming he gets his grades up. If a player falls below 2.0 during the 2nd semester, he is done for the year. To avoid this, I've used this formula that I stole from Oldresorter. By allocating my Study Hall minutes this way, I've never had a player declared ineligible in 60 seasons of HD:

• Freshman: 4.0 - HS GPA x 10
• Sophomore: 3.6 - GPA x 10
• Junior: 3.2 - GPA x 10
• Senior: 2.8 - GPA x 10

fyi, oldresorter wrote the players guide, admin (old admin) offered a 10 pack to whomever would write it. obviously, as soon as he offered, he got the job :)

that formula is also complete overkill, i've had a ton of players ineligible from forgetting to check in, but almost none when i paid attention and cut it close. i pretty much 0 all my upperclassmen and many of my freshman as long as i can, which is often their entire career. as long as you compensate at mid terms i think you are fine. i have long suspected that like real life, the midterm is less than 50% of your entire grade. 

Posted by MonsterTurtl on 1/15/2016 6:10:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, I get that I was being stupid, mainly I'm just mad cuz it was my 3 best guards.

you should have done more but also got a VERY unlucky dice roll. with what you did, it might have been like 90% chance for each player to come back (which is too low, if you have a whole team of that, thats 1 flunking per period). to get hit with those 3, its pretty damn unlucky. so i think its really both... misplayed yes, but not nearly enough to justify those results in the average scenario.

As others have said. with SIM AI teams, when you take them over the whole team is 2.1 - 2.4.  That is just how SIM teams are.  I almost always use 5 mins on all SR, 7 on all JR and SO when I take over a SIM team in the first season.

Then I can go down on the minutes in the first mid-term if anyone is above 2.5 for that term.

Posted by gillispie1 on 1/15/2016 6:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MonsterTurtl on 1/15/2016 6:10:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, I get that I was being stupid, mainly I'm just mad cuz it was my 3 best guards.

you should have done more but also got a VERY unlucky dice roll. with what you did, it might have been like 90% chance for each player to come back (which is too low, if you have a whole team of that, thats 1 flunking per period). to get hit with those 3, its pretty damn unlucky. so i think its really both... misplayed yes, but not nearly enough to justify those results in the average scenario.

That was my exact thought process. I also lost Rowe 1st team All American spot, I have to apologize to that poor lad

Posted by possumfiend on 1/15/2016 3:44:00 PM (view original):
The following is from the Player's Guide (https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/help/guide.aspx)  

I think it came from Iguana's practice minute guide and it indicates he "stole it" from Oldresorter.  I have always followed this for SH minutes ... it may be a little overkill but I've never had a player go ineligible with this method either.  Keep in mind ONLY the Freshman season utilizes the High School GPA ... thereafter utilize the college GPA.

The last thing we'll cover before moving on is Study Hall minutes. During the course of the season, you will receive 2 mid-term reports and 2 final grade E-mails regarding your players. The mid-term reports are simply giving you updates on how your players are performing in the classroom, giving you a chance to adjust minutes if need be. However, if any of your players fall below a 2.0 for his final grade, he will be declared academically ineligible. If this is the first semester, he will have the chance to come back just before the Conference Tournament begins, assuming he gets his grades up. If a player falls below 2.0 during the 2nd semester, he is done for the year. To avoid this, I've used this formula that I stole from Oldresorter. By allocating my Study Hall minutes this way, I've never had a player declared ineligible in 60 seasons of HD:

• Freshman: 4.0 - HS GPA x 10
• Sophomore: 3.6 - GPA x 10
• Junior: 3.2 - GPA x 10
• Senior: 2.8 - GPA x 10

Nice read good to know maybe I consider! Going with 5 for all players. Me personally don't care for grades as long as they get pass the 2.0 mark.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/15/2016 8:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by possumfiend on 1/15/2016 3:44:00 PM (view original):
The following is from the Player's Guide (https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/help/guide.aspx)  

I think it came from Iguana's practice minute guide and it indicates he "stole it" from Oldresorter.  I have always followed this for SH minutes ... it may be a little overkill but I've never had a player go ineligible with this method either.  Keep in mind ONLY the Freshman season utilizes the High School GPA ... thereafter utilize the college GPA.

The last thing we'll cover before moving on is Study Hall minutes. During the course of the season, you will receive 2 mid-term reports and 2 final grade E-mails regarding your players. The mid-term reports are simply giving you updates on how your players are performing in the classroom, giving you a chance to adjust minutes if need be. However, if any of your players fall below a 2.0 for his final grade, he will be declared academically ineligible. If this is the first semester, he will have the chance to come back just before the Conference Tournament begins, assuming he gets his grades up. If a player falls below 2.0 during the 2nd semester, he is done for the year. To avoid this, I've used this formula that I stole from Oldresorter. By allocating my Study Hall minutes this way, I've never had a player declared ineligible in 60 seasons of HD:

• Freshman: 4.0 - HS GPA x 10
• Sophomore: 3.6 - GPA x 10
• Junior: 3.2 - GPA x 10
• Senior: 2.8 - GPA x 10

Nice read good to know maybe I consider! Going with 5 for all players. Me personally don't care for grades as long as they get pass the 2.0 mark.

I wouldn't do that. Another poster above mentioned it but you don't need SH minutes for all players. I start every season at 0 and use those minutes for other things. If the midterms come in at 2.5 or below I then add in at least 10. If it's 2.0 or below, I go to 15. In rare situations if it's really really bad and they are vital players, I go as high as 20 because I don't want to take any chances. But with a decent team, usually it's only a few players that really need major SH minutes. Some I never send in their entire career so why waste the practice time.

Yeah I was right, I can't survive with 2 guards, I just lost to a 111 RPI sim team. The major problem is that the back ups defense sucks so they foul a lot and get ejected. I have 4 guys I could possibly play at guard which includes my starting and back up SF. This game the back up SF and what is now my starting PG fouled out, and my SG got 4. I just wish they could have taken my players more evenly.

Dean Wermer reminds all that education is our mission

I just dropped another one. This is going to be torchure because I know I would have been undefeated in conference easily.

I just went 8-8 in conference when I should have been 16-0 almost garunteed. I was #7 on the projection report now I'm #84. I was ranked #5 now I'm so for off I can't even imagine. I was #8 RPI now I am #81. I screwed myself although it was unfair to take my 3 best guards. I will most likely win the CT but even if I do I will be somthing like a 15 seed instead of being something like a 2 seed. And if I don't win then this whole ordeal will be a waste of my time becuase the whole point of joining a 8 senior team was to win a game in the NT and get that curse of my back. My other goal was to get to D1 as quickly as possible so I would have a team at D3, D2, and D1 and experience all aspects of the game.

Posted by MonsterTurtl on 1/22/2016 8:31:00 PM (view original):
I just went 8-8 in conference when I should have been 16-0 almost garunteed. I was #7 on the projection report now I'm #84. I was ranked #5 now I'm so for off I can't even imagine. I was #8 RPI now I am #81. I screwed myself although it was unfair to take my 3 best guards. I will most likely win the CT but even if I do I will be somthing like a 15 seed instead of being something like a 2 seed. And if I don't win then this whole ordeal will be a waste of my time becuase the whole point of joining a 8 senior team was to win a game in the NT and get that curse of my back. My other goal was to get to D1 as quickly as possible so I would have a team at D3, D2, and D1 and experience all aspects of the game.

curse? you only have 12 seasons under your belt! way too early to call anything a curse :)

a quick word of advice about d1 - i recommend you (goes for anyone) do not move up to d1 on your only team until you can build an A prestige program in the lower divisions (meaning, starting not with an A, and building up to an A with players you recruited and coached). if you had multiple teams, you could afford to move one up to d1, where you will almost certainly get wrecked, like everyone else does. but with only 1 team, its pretty depressing. the competition is harder than in the lower divisions, and recruiting really takes a while to get the hang of it - so you basically just get pummeled mercilessly for a while. your only chance to stave that off is to already have mastered the basics, and be able to consistently put a team into the NT who has a solid chance at a S16 type season. most coaches who only have 1 team and move up to d1 early get killed and get depressed and quit. its a shame. if you had a d2 team at the same time (or d3) and that team was doing well, it makes it way easier to tolerate the pummeling. do what you want, just some friendly advice!