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I did.

Saginaw Valley St. (9-5) World: Crum
3/7/2017 8:02 PM
Damn. spud deleting posts faster than people can respond.
3/7/2017 8:02 PM
Someone is f'n with me.

Is there a way to look at Crum if I don't have a team there?
3/7/2017 8:05 PM
well I hope you know everyone is enjoying it
3/7/2017 8:06 PM
Posted by CoachSpud on 3/7/2017 8:00:00 PM (view original):
An imposter. What can't I find him?
And going back to the comment you deleted, obviously I'm talking about the game and not real life.

Again, how do you know what kind of fullcourt press is being run? How do you know where the players are on the court that's on offense trying to break the press?
3/7/2017 8:06 PM
wiz, you're the one asserting that they are playing out of position. I see no reference to that in Hoops 101. What is your source, or is it just someone's imagination? I actually woild like to know how to attack full court press.
3/7/2017 8:08 PM
Posted by CoachSpud on 3/7/2017 8:06:00 PM (view original):
Someone is f'n with me.

Is there a way to look at Crum if I don't have a team there?
Log in with l80r20. You can check your team while you're there.
3/7/2017 8:08 PM
How do I log in in someone else's name? MikeT23, for example. It looks like I need someone's password, and I'll have to change my own.
3/7/2017 8:14 PM (edited)
Don't play dumb. You don't have a team there as CoachSpud. It's not a big deal. Until you screw up and out another alias.

I don't even get why you have alt IDs if you're not gonna cheat. Makes no sense.
3/7/2017 8:11 PM
Posted by CoachSpud on 3/7/2017 7:19:00 PM (view original):
No, all you know is that the weak defender is somewhere on the court... no longer playing his position???

Fullcourt Press

Summary
The press is designed to force your opponent into turning the ball over and to create easy scoring opportunities by putting pressure on the ballhandler and attempting to cut off passing lanes. If the offense breaks the initial press, the defense continues to trap even in a half-court set.

Pros
With the right players, can be very disruptive to an offense creating steals. Wears down the opposing team and can lead to fatigue issues by the end of the game.

Cons
Requires a deep bench of good athletes with good speed. A poor press will give up lots of easy baskets. On average, pressing teams will be called for more fouls than any other defense.

His position is IN THE PRESS.
3/7/2017 8:30 PM
HA! Literally the only way you can get caught with a secret Alt ID is to screw up EXACTLY like you just did Spud. So funny.
3/7/2017 8:31 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/7/2017 8:11:00 PM (view original):
Don't play dumb. You don't have a team there as CoachSpud. It's not a big deal. Until you screw up and out another alias.

I don't even get why you have alt IDs if you're not gonna cheat. Makes no sense.
He already explained it. He uses this ID to troll the forums and admitted to it.

the thing I find funny is that he also said he was successful with his other ID and did well during job changes... hmm.
3/7/2017 8:44 PM
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Posted by thewizard17 on 3/7/2017 7:38:00 PM (view original):
Snafu,

I was just as surprised as you when I saw it. The center acts alone in a 2-3, almost like a 2-2-1. I believe billy_g asked seble and he confirmed it.
Not exactly. In a 2-3, the guards are "averaged" with one formula, and the forwards are "averaged" with another. The C is not on an island, he is just using his own formula. Here are Gillespie's words, from the end of the thread you're probably talking about:

"all 5 players are averaged together in defense of every shot. its just that the groups of players run off the same formula. so in the 2-3, the pg/sg have one formula, the sf/pf have another, and the c has a third. but then all 5 are averaged in to defend each shot. the formulas for each group change with the distance from the basket though so its not like a c's sb is super important in defending a 3, like it is defending a layup."

https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=477098&page=12
3/7/2017 9:03 PM
Posted by rednu on 3/7/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachSpud on 3/7/2017 4:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rednu on 3/7/2017 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/7/2017 1:41:00 PM (view original):
Being able to exploit a bad defender might only be really applicable if they are playing a M2M defense. I tend to not even consider it against other defenses.

But I've done just what you've suggested when playing against a M2M team that has a particularly weak defender. I'll put a good offensive player up against him and up his distribution.

And while I haven't moved players between SF and PF on my depth chart for a particular game to get a favorable matchup (because it didn't make sense with my mix of players), I have moved between SF and SG, and between SG and PG.
Taking note of a weak defender in a zone is important because if you can figure out which part of the zone his numbers will be averaged into, you can up distribution to not just his positional counterpart, but to all players likely to be scoring from that region during the game (i.e. -- all perimeter shooters or all post players).

In a press it largely doesn't matter since 1. you can never be sure who will be in the double teams and 2. you should be upping your distribution to your top scoring threats anyhow since one key weakness in the press is the inability give extra attention to the "top" players in the opposition.
In the press, you can still attack a weak defender much the same as in zone. The weak defender and one helper constitute the double-team, and though you don't know who the helper is, you still know the weak defender is there.
No, all you know is that the weak defender is somewhere on the court. It isn't a man-to-man with a random player pulled in for the double team. Just because your SF has the ball, there's no guarantee that my SF is either of the two players engaged in the double team. That's why you just raise distro to your best players, because you never know where anyone is on defense.
I get the premise, but also look at it in terms of probabilities. If my press opponent has a weak center, where is he more likely to be on the floor? On the perimeter, or under the basket? Probably near the basket. I agree you can't target him like you can in M2M, but if it's a weakness I want to exploit, there are avenues I can try. Simply put, upping distribution of my best scorer most likely to shoot near my target.
3/7/2017 9:28 PM
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