Recruiting thoughts Topic

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12/22/2017 12:00 PM
Posted by deroches on 12/22/2017 12:58:00 AM (view original):
The real problem IMO with D3 is not recruiting but scouting. Smaller budget AND you have to scout three levels. So your recruit pool is not going to have that many D1 players that fit for you, compared to D2 teams.

I disagree about D1 being way too available for D3 teams. Recruits not even considering signing them until the last 24 hours is a hideous disadvantage.
This is one thing I really, really miss. I absolutely hate the scouting method they have now. There are just many fewer recruits you can see which makes it much less enjoyable.

I also don't think D1 players are too available for D3 schools. It is risky to go after D1 players. I've had many work out, but often you loss them late in the process.
12/22/2017 12:18 PM
D3 recruiting is designed to be primarily local, as in real life. If you want to play in the D1 pool, you’ll have to be very judicious.

I havent played much D3 in 3.0, only enough to get me a D1 job in Phelan. But I had a good team recruiting primarily from the D2 pool. I think I signed one leftover D1 type, nothing special. I have an elite D2 team with 3 D2 pool players currently on the roster. There’s nothing saying you have to play any certain way. If waiting until the last 24 hours to sign recruits doesn’t work for you, or you don’t enjoy it, look for another way to play.
12/22/2017 12:48 PM
Recruiting D1 at D3 players is an all in thing. You can't spend resources anywhere else, you have to try and find gaps where players might be missed, you take potential risks by signing players with 2 levels of scouting or less, and you often get burned. I typically have offers out to 2-3x the number of players I actually sign, and most times don't fill all my openings. I always lose players I think I have in the bag at the last minute. Occasionally you get lucky and it all works out like my Elmhurst team. But I have instances where I have had 6 openings and only filled three with two DII players and one DI, leaving a really thin roster. It's a risk, but it pays off if it works.

And all that said recruiting is my favorite part of the game, I absolutely love the challenge of trying to land players that are nearly out of reach who have significant flaws in their game and watching them grow to become great D3 players. I will also add that my Elmhurst team had a similarly talented squad a few seasons ago and got ousted in the 2nd round of the NT as the #1 overall seed, so even with huge talent it's still easy to be only an average coach and lose as a favorite.

I do agree though that recruiting as a new coach is very, very difficult. I spent a week reading up on it prior to coming back into the game, and that was only because I knew where to look for info. It is very easy to get discouraged if you don't have somebody to mentor or have a basic idea of how things work.
12/22/2017 1:28 PM
Benis says you should never take chances in D3. That if you miss you're playing wrong.
12/22/2017 4:16 PM
Benis is a better coach than you.
12/22/2017 4:40 PM
I assume you have a point. If so, get to it.
12/22/2017 4:53 PM
Better coaches understand the game better.
12/22/2017 4:57 PM
FWK just said he misses sometimes as well. Wanna tell him who is better at the game than him too?

Or are you just butthurt because your advice was ignored as your shining example of what could happen if I listened to you hadn't won a NT game in 20 seasons?
12/22/2017 5:24 PM
I mean, seriously, anyone can offer advice on how to NOT win a NT game in over 20 seasons. You don't need any understanding of the game to do that.
12/22/2017 5:25 PM
I don't want to make my own thread, but I think I just screwed up.

An Ineligible, not in Div III, and I promised him a start and minutes. If he signs, during his Freshman year, will his WE drop and then he decide to leave because he is not getting his start or minutes?

12/22/2017 5:44 PM
I'm thinking about just withdrawing the schollie if that is the case.
12/22/2017 5:45 PM
Skinndogg, he'll just sit on your roster for a year if he signs as a non qualifier and doesn't go juco. His ratings freeze until his soph. year.
12/22/2017 6:02 PM
Promises are nullified for Inels. Don't worry about it.
12/22/2017 6:19 PM
Posted by skinndogg on 12/22/2017 5:44:00 PM (view original):
I don't want to make my own thread, but I think I just screwed up.

An Ineligible, not in Div III, and I promised him a start and minutes. If he signs, during his Freshman year, will his WE drop and then he decide to leave because he is not getting his start or minutes?

Only an issue if he academically qualifies
12/22/2017 6:49 PM
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