You got a good roll at the end of the first term, a bad one at the end of the second. It really is that simple. If you are intentionally skimming to avoid “waste” - and that is exactly what you’re telling us you’re doing - the drawback is that you are at risk for occasionally losing a guy. This is not a game of if/then, black and white propositions. It’s all probability.

I’m reminded again of a former co-worker who was upset about getting a ticket for going 60 in a 55. He was sure he was “safe”.

It’s alright snafu, I don’t believe in study hall either. If a player is below 2.0 at midterms then I give him 4-5 minutes. Works a majority of the time.

I'm not saying that using too many minutes is the answer. It's just a personal preference for each of us. I'm a coach that will never have a player ineligible because of study hall. But my players may take longer to max out than yours will.

You're a coach that will have players max out faster than mine. But you'll lose a player every 135 seasons or so.

The bad part is, from the outside, I'd rather take your outcome out of the two I just described. I just can't bring myself to lower freshman minutes THAT much. As i live in fear those 6 days between grades. And I'd also react the way you are now!

I've never ran into issues with not maxing out my players. So it's never been a huge concern. I also tend to stay away from low WE players too. I'm sure those players are the ones where each practice minute matters a lot more

I think some folks want to treat it like there’s a “right way” and a “wrong way” to play the game. In truth, there are lots of right ways, and lots of wrong ways. We make choices, and those choices have consequences. What folks seem to have trouble with is that the consequence present themselves in terms of risk and probability, rather than if/then propositions. The more people understand and accept probability simulating choice, the better they can enjoy the game that exists.

Same kinda ******** that walk through life going, "man, I got bad luck."

Posted by topdogggbm on 6/23/2018 11:39:00 PM (view original):
I'm not saying that using too many minutes is the answer. It's just a personal preference for each of us. I'm a coach that will never have a player ineligible because of study hall. But my players may take longer to max out than yours will.

You're a coach that will have players max out faster than mine. But you'll lose a player every 135 seasons or so.

The bad part is, from the outside, I'd rather take your outcome out of the two I just described. I just can't bring myself to lower freshman minutes THAT much. As i live in fear those 6 days between grades. And I'd also react the way you are now!

I've never ran into issues with not maxing out my players. So it's never been a huge concern. I also tend to stay away from low WE players too. I'm sure those players are the ones where each practice minute matters a lot more

Omg topdog how many minutes you making your players study?

Seniors 0. Juniors 1 or 2. Sophomores 3 or 4. But with freshman, I'll start at 10, mid terms I'll drop to 8 or 9. Mid season I'll drop to 6 or 7. And the last midterm I'll keep them at 6. Then of course I'll drop to 0 once they pass for the season.

If i'm wasting minutes, i'm plenty ok with that. Its probably an average of 3 minutes wasted on less than 1 single season and that's it! I'm not sure why everyone is so big on these practice minutes. I keep my team O/D at 25 each forever. And my guys always max out. So I just don't understand the concern of "wasted" minutes.

What could i do better with 2 extra minutes in a season? Make my O/D 26 each? Have my players max out in 1 category 5 games prior to when they do now? I'm surviving just fine. It doesn't seem that substantial to me.

I hear some coaches change their practice minutes every time grades come out, when categories have changed colors. I monitor mine daily. If a coach had 15 min in a black category and they change it to 8 when it's orange (for example), and it changed the day after midterms, that's wasting more minutes than I do in my opinion.

I just don't see the worry.

Posted by topdogggbm on 6/24/2018 2:12:00 AM (view original):
Seniors 0. Juniors 1 or 2. Sophomores 3 or 4. But with freshman, I'll start at 10, mid terms I'll drop to 8 or 9. Mid season I'll drop to 6 or 7. And the last midterm I'll keep them at 6. Then of course I'll drop to 0 once they pass for the season.

If i'm wasting minutes, i'm plenty ok with that. Its probably an average of 3 minutes wasted on less than 1 single season and that's it! I'm not sure why everyone is so big on these practice minutes. I keep my team O/D at 25 each forever. And my guys always max out. So I just don't understand the concern of "wasted" minutes.

What could i do better with 2 extra minutes in a season? Make my O/D 26 each? Have my players max out in 1 category 5 games prior to when they do now? I'm surviving just fine. It doesn't seem that substantial to me.

I hear some coaches change their practice minutes every time grades come out, when categories have changed colors. I monitor mine daily. If a coach had 15 min in a black category and they change it to 8 when it's orange (for example), and it changed the day after midterms, that's wasting more minutes than I do in my opinion.

I just don't see the worry.

I run a combo defense, with 54-58 total minutes in Team Practice depending on the class structure of the team. Every last minute of individual practice is incredibly valuable in this situation. My players don't max out Jr. year, they might max out towards the end of Sr. year (if they get there, about 50% go EE).

Posted by snafu4u on 6/24/2018 9:04:00 AM (view original):

Posted by topdogggbm on 6/24/2018 2:12:00 AM (view original):
Seniors 0. Juniors 1 or 2. Sophomores 3 or 4. But with freshman, I'll start at 10, mid terms I'll drop to 8 or 9. Mid season I'll drop to 6 or 7. And the last midterm I'll keep them at 6. Then of course I'll drop to 0 once they pass for the season.

If i'm wasting minutes, i'm plenty ok with that. Its probably an average of 3 minutes wasted on less than 1 single season and that's it! I'm not sure why everyone is so big on these practice minutes. I keep my team O/D at 25 each forever. And my guys always max out. So I just don't understand the concern of "wasted" minutes.

What could i do better with 2 extra minutes in a season? Make my O/D 26 each? Have my players max out in 1 category 5 games prior to when they do now? I'm surviving just fine. It doesn't seem that substantial to me.

I hear some coaches change their practice minutes every time grades come out, when categories have changed colors. I monitor mine daily. If a coach had 15 min in a black category and they change it to 8 when it's orange (for example), and it changed the day after midterms, that's wasting more minutes than I do in my opinion.

I just don't see the worry.

I run a combo defense, with 54-58 total minutes in Team Practice depending on the class structure of the team. Every last minute of individual practice is incredibly valuable in this situation. My players don't max out Jr. year, they might max out towards the end of Sr. year (if they get there, about 50% go EE).

Well I completely understand in this case. I just was venting on your thread, as I've had these discussions in the past as well. But in case of combo D's... sure, every last minute is crucial

Unlike everyone else I feel for Snafu a lot. The 2.9 was like a 5 in 100 rng for the good, the 1.8 was like a 5 in 100 rng for the bad. It's a pretty dumb part of the game, but I guess another poor ramification of the combo defense

I happily run a combo defense. It’s not a problem.

You can’t have it all. You prioritize and make choices. If snafu thinks it’s really important to spend 54-58 minutes on sets, then he’s going to lose development somewhere else. That’s how games work, there should be no golden ticket or silver bullet.

Posted by cardman17 on 6/24/2018 12:24:00 AM (view original):
Same kinda ******** that walk through life going, "man, I got bad luck."

I love this guy

Posted by Benis on 6/24/2018 12:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cardman17 on 6/24/2018 12:24:00 AM (view original):
Same kinda ******** that walk through life going, "man, I got bad luck."

I love this guy

I just assumed it was mikeT's alt account

Posted by shoe3 on 6/24/2018 10:31:00 AM (view original):
I happily run a combo defense. It’s not a problem.

You can’t have it all. You prioritize and make choices. If snafu thinks it’s really important to spend 54-58 minutes on sets, then he’s going to lose development somewhere else. That’s how games work, there should be no golden ticket or silver bullet.

Not sure where you are getting "golden ticket" or "silver bullet" from. In every one of your posts you seem to relish the experience of wagging your finger at someone and assuming a condescending tone.

I know very well the growth limitations when running a combo defense, and accept that as part of that plan. I don't expect to max my guys out by Jr year, I hope that I may be able to by the end of their Sr. year. For my style of play, the benefits of the combo defense are more important to me.

My complaint is not that there aren't enough minutes to go around as you are implying, or that I should be given some kind of special arrangement since I run a combo. My complaint is the ridiculous inconsistency in this particular instance with this particular player. It is an inconsistency because in 135 seasons I have never seen it happen before. It is an outlier, well beyond the scope of normal or expected. My complaint is that I more than doubled a guys SH practice minutes and did not see any gains at all in his GPA. My complaint is that with far less in SH that I had allocated in the final semester, he pulled a 2.9 GPA, yet with an increase in minutes he could only pull a 1.8. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up, it is a terribly annoying outlier that defies logic and has had a tangible effect on my season. If you want to wag your finger like a prissy step-mom with a stick up her bum go right ahead, but at least have the self respect to do it over things actually being argued instead of making up straw men.

Posted by cubcub113 on 6/24/2018 9:37:00 AM (view original):
Unlike everyone else I feel for Snafu a lot. The 2.9 was like a 5 in 100 rng for the good, the 1.8 was like a 5 in 100 rng for the bad. It's a pretty dumb part of the game, but I guess another poor ramification of the combo defense

Thanks cubcub113--this is all I really want. Someone else to recognize its a dumb part of the game and I was utterly funked by an incredibly improbable RNG--you know the WIS forum equivalent of a big hug and encouragement that everyone is actually out to get me and the game is unfair to me and only me.