Posted by gillispie1 on 6/25/2019 11:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by buddhagamer on 6/25/2019 11:50:00 PM (view original):
The difficulty in repeated success in D1 in HD 3.0 is the difficulty in replacing EEs which drive sustained success. The more successful the program, the more difficult it is to replace players (at some point, you have very few seniors but lots of EEs which is almost impossible to open the number of needed recruits to replace those that leave (HD 2.0 was way easier in this regard).

Which makes my 43 consecutive seasons (and counting) at UCLA of Top 10 RPI plus Top 25 rank/SOS hard to duplicate.

that is damn impressive - just curious, there haven't been 43 seasons in 3.0 yet have there? im assuming a bit of that is a holdover from 2.0?

i think 3.0 is a lot different, and crushingly good runs at d1 are definitely a unique challenge. i probably will get off my rear end and do a set of 3.0 dynasty rankings, at some point.

Yes Phelan rolled into HD 3.0 beginning in season 99 I think so the first 10 seasons were under HD 2.0. I was at OSU in the B1G for 50+ seasons there so I can tell you its at least 10 x harder to replace elite talent now.

EE stands for Early Exit (when someone leaves your roster for the NBA so you end up having to replace them in RS2 which is way more difficult that before).

what are the most impressive runs you guys have seen in 3.0? the 5 final four in a row run from earlier sounds pretty amazing - can you post the history around that time? would be interested to see for sure.

here is the most impressive i've seen personally - although someone talked about a mid major having some REAL impressive success, i just don't recall any details. - this is UCLA in tark

149	piman314	27-7	12-2	8-4	7-1	11-5	1	8	11	A+	NT At-large Bid National Champion
148	piman314	17-15	8-5	8-8	1-2	9-7		41	4	A+	PI (Final Four)
147	piman314	25-10	8-1	10-7	7-2	11-5	3	7	2	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (Championship Game)
146	piman314	25-10	8-2	9-7	8-1	10-6	1	3	1	A+	NT At-large Bid National Champion
145	piman314	29-3	11-1	13-1	5-1	14-2	5	4	25	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
144	piman314	24-8	10-2	10-4	4-2	13-3	13	7	3	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
143	piman314	27-7	9-0	12-5	6-2	14-2	2	2	1	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Championship Game)
142	piman314	24-9	9-2	9-6	6-1	10-6	15	7	2	A+	CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
141	piman314	25-10	6-2	10-8	9-0	10-6	1	4	1	A+	CT Champion National Champion
140	piman314	25-7	9-2	11-4	5-1	13-3	11	3	2	A+	CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
139	piman314	30-5	8-1	14-3	8-1	14-2	1	2	4	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid National Champion
138	piman314	23-8	8-2	12-4	3-2	12-4	14	7	4	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
137	piman314	31-3	10-1	14-1	7-1	16-0	3	1	4	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
136	piman314	30-6	7-2	13-4	10-0	11-5	1	8	8	A+	CT Champion National Champion
135	piman314	30-4	8-0	16-2	6-2	14-2	3	1	1	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Final Four)

5 titles and 9 final fours in 15 years - that is amazing - 33% title rate and 60% final 4 rate. i definitely think it is way harder to have such consistently exceptional recruiting in 3.0, than it was in 2.0 - and that makes dominance like piman's potentially more impressive, at least in d1 (no idea what d2/d3 impact are, could be reverse impact even). on the flip side - populations are lighter, and also with the variance in d1 recruiting, the top d1 teams on the whole are significantly less exceptional. this does make it easier to stand out with excellent coaching, and the limit of how huge a favorite you can be in a single season certainly is a lot higher than in 2.0, where there'd be a dozen teams as talented as #1 in 3.0 (or something along those lines).

6 titles + 3 x F4 is my best run over 15 seasons in HD 3.0 so far (and a rare D1 3peat in HD 3.0 and oh so close to a six peat)

117	buddhagamer	31-3	12-1	12-1	7-1	16-0	3	2	2	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
116	buddhagamer	31-4	12-1	10-3	9-0	12-4	1	1	1	A+	CT Champion National Champion
115	buddhagamer	25-8	13-1	7-5	5-2	13-3	13	7	1	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
114	buddhagamer	22-8	11-1	9-5	2-2	13-3	23	10	2	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (1st Round)
113	buddhagamer	27-5	15-0	7-4	5-1	15-1	5	4	4	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
112	buddhagamer	30-3	10-1	14-1	6-1	16-0	3	1	1	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Elite 8)
111	buddhagamer	31-4	14-0	8-4	9-0	14-2	1	1	1	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
110	buddhagamer	30-5	11-1	11-3	8-1	13-3	1	1	1	A+	NT At-large Bid National Champion
109	buddhagamer	28-6	12-1	9-4	7-1	15-1	4	1	1	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
108	buddhagamer	30-5	11-2	11-2	8-1	14-2	1	2	1	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid National Champion
107	buddhagamer	30-5	12-1	9-4	9-0	14-2	1	1	1	A+	CT Champion National Champion
106	buddhagamer	27-7	12-1	8-5	7-1	13-3	1	2	1	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid National Champion
105	buddhagamer	21-11	10-3	7-6	4-2	12-4	17	10	1	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
104	buddhagamer	23-8	10-2	10-4	3-2	14-2	12	8	2	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
103	buddhagamer	27-7	11-2	10-3	6-2	13-3	2	5	1	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (Championship Game)

Here is my entire history at Northwestern. My final four run is obviously pretty fluky, but I am still proud of it. Gillispie, you are an absolute scholar of this stuff. Amazing.

I think Crum went to 3.0 somewhere around season 86 or so.

I was a pretty god awful coach for a while until I sitemailed chapilhillne and he gave me some much needed pointers....

105	jimmychino	22-8	10-0	10-6	2-2	13-3	24	7	2	-	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
104	jimmychino	23-9	7-1	12-6	4-2	11-5	16	15	16	A	NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
103	jimmychino	19-11	8-4	9-5	2-2	10-6		46	41	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
102	jimmychino	26-6	13-1	8-4	5-1	12-4	11	7	18	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
101	jimmychino	28-4	8-1	16-1	4-2	14-2	6	5	7	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
100	jimmychino	29-5	8-0	14-4	7-1	13-3	3	1	5	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
99	jimmychino	27-6	6-2	16-2	5-2	13-3	2	3	4	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (Championship Game)
98	jimmychino	34-1	9-0	17-0	8-1	16-0	2	2	6	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)
97	jimmychino	26-6	7-1	15-3	4-2	13-3	5	6	11	A+	NT At-large Bid NT (Final Four)
96	jimmychino	32-3	10-2	14-0	8-1	14-2	1	1	1	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid National Champion
95	jimmychino	26-6	12-2	9-3	5-1	12-4	9	7	6	A	CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
94	jimmychino	19-11	10-3	7-6	2-2	10-6		25	6	A	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
93	jimmychino	22-9	10-2	9-5	3-2	11-5	22	11	4	A	NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
92	jimmychino	26-6	9-0	13-4	4-2	12-4	8	4	13	A	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Elite 8)
91	jimmychino	25-6	8-1	14-3	3-2	14-2	13	13	36	A-	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (Sweet 16)
90	jimmychino	20-11	6-3	11-6	3-2	9-7		22	7	B	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
89	jimmychino	17-13	3-5	12-6	2-2	6-10		35	19	B-	NT At-large Bid NT (2nd Round)
88	jimmychino	11-16	4-8	7-7	0-1	4-12		145	73	C+
87	jimmychino	7-20	1-12	6-7	0-1	2-14		110	13	C+
86	jimmychino	11-16	5-7	6-8	0-1	4-12		92	31	B-
85	jimmychino	10-18	6-7	3-10	1-1	6-10		111	24	B-
84	jimmychino	13-16	7-6	6-9	0-1	6-10		80	27	B-	PI (2nd Round)
83	jimmychino	21-10	6-5	14-4	1-1	8-8		65	86	B-	PI (3rd Round)
82	jimmychino	18-12	12-2	6-9	0-1	7-9		69	78	C+	PI (3rd Round)
81	jimmychino	9-18	7-7	2-10	0-1	2-14		133	37	C
80	jimmychino	7-20	2-12	5-7	0-1	2-14		128	25	C

Don’t know how to post it like you guys have. Can someone post here or sitemail me how to do that?

Regardless, the strongest Dynasty I’ve personally witnessed was cwaldenj’s dynasty at Ozarks. I think it’s majorly slept on in the forums.

Here’s the link (seasons 116-125):

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/History.aspx?tid=13678

6 titles (including 2 three-peats), 3 NC games, and 1 F4. Pretty incredible run.

Posted by Sportsbulls on 6/26/2019 12:58:00 AM (view original):
Don’t know how to post it like you guys have. Can someone post here or sitemail me how to do that?

Regardless, the strongest Dynasty I’ve personally witnessed was cwaldenj’s dynasty at Ozarks. I think it’s majorly slept on in the forums.

Here’s the link (seasons 116-125):

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/History.aspx?tid=13678

6 titles (including 2 three-peats), 3 NC games, and 1 F4. Pretty incredible run.

holy crap!! having been gone 3 years, this is the first i'm seeing this.

127	ab90	32-3	8-0	16-2	8-1	15-1	1	1	10	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid National Champion
126	ab90	33-1	13-0	13-0	7-1	16-0	3	3	26	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
125	cwaldenj	32-3	8-2	16-0	8-1	16-0	2	1	5	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)
124	cwaldenj	35-0	9-0	17-0	9-0	16-0	1	1	10	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
123	cwaldenj	34-1	12-0	13-1	9-0	16-0	1	1	3	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
122	cwaldenj	32-3	11-2	12-1	9-0	16-0	1	5	9	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
121	cwaldenj	32-2	11-1	14-0	7-1	16-0	3	1	2	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
120	cwaldenj	34-1	10-1	15-0	9-0	16-0	1	3	15	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
119	cwaldenj	35-0	8-0	18-0	9-0	16-0	1	1	6	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
118	cwaldenj	34-1	8-0	17-1	9-0	16-0	1	2	9	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
117	cwaldenj	34-1	11-0	15-0	8-1	16-0	2	2	12	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)
116	cwaldenj	34-1	9-0	17-0	8-1	16-0	2	2	6	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)

that is unreal - a stretch of 12 straight final 4s, even with 2 of them being ab's. that makes cjwalden's 10 season run 10 final fours, 9 title games, and 6 titles. that is insane! with ab's 2 years, 12 final fours and 7 titles in 12 seasons. wow.


p.s. to paste it, i just copy off the history page of the team, and paste it here, and it comes across pretty good like this.

does anyone know what off/def cwaldenj was playing there? i am still stunned by that awesomeness. hey, what world is that?

Posted by gillispie1 on 6/26/2019 1:26:00 AM (view original):
does anyone know what off/def cwaldenj was playing there? i am still stunned by that awesomeness. hey, what world is that?

Flex press in knight

Posted by TwoBuckChuck on 6/25/2019 11:53:00 PM (view original):
pardon my ignorance

what's an EE

Early Entry (players getting drafted)

Posted by gillispie1 on 6/26/2019 1:26:00 AM (view original):
does anyone know what off/def cwaldenj was playing there? i am still stunned by that awesomeness. hey, what world is that?

Knight D3. He ran Flex/Press.

Edit: my bad, didn’t see top responded to it.

The mid-major champ is joeykw at Naismith Vermont:

111	joeykw18	26-0	14-0	12-0	0-0	16-0	22	55	311	-	Conf Champion
110	joeykw18	32-1	13-0	13-0	6-1	16-0	6	21	127	B+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Elite 8)
109	joeykw18	30-1	12-0	14-0	4-1	16-0	11	21	122	B+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (2nd Round)
108	joeykw18	29-2	13-1	12-0	4-1	16-0	13	24	106	A-	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (2nd Round)
107	joeykw18	30-1	14-0	12-0	4-1	16-0	15	23	162	A	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (2nd Round)
106	joeykw18	33-1	12-0	14-0	7-1	16-0	4	9	50	A	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
105	joeykw18	27-3	8-0	16-2	3-1	15-1	17	28	125	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (1st Round)
104	joeykw18	35-0	13-0	13-0	9-0	16-0	1	1	14	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
103	joeykw18	31-1	12-0	14-0	5-1	16-0	9	15	95	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
102	joeykw18	35-0	11-0	15-0	9-0	16-0	1	3	30	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
101	joeykw18	35-0	13-0	13-0	9-0	16-0	1	1	7	A	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
100	joeykw18	30-3	10-1	14-1	6-1	16-0	5	13	40	B+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Elite 8)

Posted by jimmychino on 6/25/2019 3:19:00 PM (view original):
I went to 5 straight Final Fours with Northwestern in Crum. 3 title games, one National Championship. Am pretty darn proud of that considering the volatility of HD version 3.0.

I only have a team in one world, so I don’t know if they sustained success has been replicated anywhere else. Maybe it’s not that unusual.

Illinois

I win away last year from tying you. I also had 1 NC, and 3 NC games in that span. Obviously, an A+ prestige I inherited in great shape makes it a little less impressive.

I'd like to think what makes it more impressive is there are 3 times in the past 6 years I've had all but 1 of my returning players on the big board at the start of the year. I've had 11 draft picks the past 5 years.

Joeykw's run was pretty impressive indeed.

My college resume pales in comparison to many. However, I'll throw in something for diversity across WIS sports:

College Basketball - Two time D3 champion
SIM Basketball - 1 championship
SIM baseball - 4 championships, 1 championship's league title
Hardball - 2 championships
Super models dated: Zero

Posted by gillispie1 on 6/26/2019 1:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 6/26/2019 12:58:00 AM (view original):
Don’t know how to post it like you guys have. Can someone post here or sitemail me how to do that?

Regardless, the strongest Dynasty I’ve personally witnessed was cwaldenj’s dynasty at Ozarks. I think it’s majorly slept on in the forums.

Here’s the link (seasons 116-125):

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/History.aspx?tid=13678

6 titles (including 2 three-peats), 3 NC games, and 1 F4. Pretty incredible run.

holy crap!! having been gone 3 years, this is the first i'm seeing this.

127	ab90	32-3	8-0	16-2	8-1	15-1	1	1	10	A+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid National Champion
126	ab90	33-1	13-0	13-0	7-1	16-0	3	3	26	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
125	cwaldenj	32-3	8-2	16-0	8-1	16-0	2	1	5	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)
124	cwaldenj	35-0	9-0	17-0	9-0	16-0	1	1	10	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
123	cwaldenj	34-1	12-0	13-1	9-0	16-0	1	1	3	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
122	cwaldenj	32-3	11-2	12-1	9-0	16-0	1	5	9	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
121	cwaldenj	32-2	11-1	14-0	7-1	16-0	3	1	2	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Final Four)
120	cwaldenj	34-1	10-1	15-0	9-0	16-0	1	3	15	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
119	cwaldenj	35-0	8-0	18-0	9-0	16-0	1	1	6	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
118	cwaldenj	34-1	8-0	17-1	9-0	16-0	1	2	9	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion National Champion
117	cwaldenj	34-1	11-0	15-0	8-1	16-0	2	2	12	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)
116	cwaldenj	34-1	9-0	17-0	8-1	16-0	2	2	6	A+	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Championship Game)

that is unreal - a stretch of 12 straight final 4s, even with 2 of them being ab's. that makes cjwalden's 10 season run 10 final fours, 9 title games, and 6 titles. that is insane! with ab's 2 years, 12 final fours and 7 titles in 12 seasons. wow.


p.s. to paste it, i just copy off the history page of the team, and paste it here, and it comes across pretty good like this.

i can't remember the specifics (i tend to get into 12 teams for a year at a time and then fizzle out), but he was recruiting like crazy. those rosters were bananas. believe it was either flex/motion and press. i'm 80% on that.