Round 1 Roster Selection Strategies, 2021 Topic

Posted by BigScungil on 6/11/2021 3:34:00 PM (view original):
Red, I enjoyed your write-up immensely. Guess, I have the afternoon off.

Tulobotomy > Tuloholics.
I am pleased at least one brave soul took the plunge. Thank you.
6/11/2021 3:37 PM
$70M
.258, Riverfront Stadium


A 4 man rotation that are capable at $80M (Leifield, Prendergast, Bithorn and Adams) will need to go deep into games. The pen is somewhat thin. '27 Art Decatur will mop up. He has provided QS in the past. Riverfront's -2 singles might just keep us from serious fatigue issues...

The offense can get on base, provide some doubles and homers. Schmidt, Delgado, Abreu, Murcer, Joe Gordon are productive.



$90M,
1920/2020, Target Field


I like the value of the 2020 pitchers. A five man rotation with Kershaw used in relief. A .95whip at this cap makes me feel safe.

An all 1920 lineup other than Dominic Smith is employed here. Joe Jackson is our only marquee player. Daubert, Bancroft, Tobin, O'Neill, Buck Weaver are solid if unspectacular. I like our chances to have a good run differential.

$110M Friendo
Target Field

Again I am employing some modern arms (deGrom, Madea, Kershaw) tagging along with '64 Koufax, '14 Caldwell. '72 Nelson starts 5th.

Lots of early bats. Home Run Baker, Brouthers, Elmer Smith, Donlin, George Davis, Buck Ewing and Co. should put points on the board.

2019 Round 1 I had the top $110M team. I like this one. Is it gonna pan out?
I like my 2nd round team as much or more. Will it matter?

$120M, Petco
Triples

It has been ages since I've played here in Petco...

Fireballers Madea, Lamet, Kluber, Nola and Cueto might struggle without an interpreter, but need to keep the opposition at bay. Kershaw again occupies the pen. Romo and Feliz are there to close.

The usual suspects swing the bats. Connor gets in here. Dahlen, Speaker, Baker are here. Lance Johnson and Molitor join the old guys from The Corn. I think we can compete.

$140M, Target Field
1920-29, 2000-09, 2010-19 Boxes

Who knew? I couldn't make 2020 work. I like 2010-2019 pitchers, homers be damned...A big shift for me. Until recently you couldn't pry me away from deadballers. Arrieta, Greinke, Kluber and deGrom start. That Kershaw fellow evidently took up residence in my bullpen.

Much of the offense is 1920 hitters, with Helton, Chipper, Mauer and Betts joining in. Prepare the walkup music...

Variable Cap
$172M, Mile High Stadium

The real wild card in my tourney chances. With everyone having to use a +HR park I just couldn't help myself.

This park is big on singles and triples, something I am banking on that we are better at than the opposition. Our guys will give up homers, as Mikey says, but are low OAV and high K. I'm betting that we can hold the other team down enough offensively. Big Unit, Arrieta, Maeda, Bieber and Lamet need to limit the damage. Some Dodger lefthander wearing 22 is down the LF line on a bench.

King Kelly leads off. It seemed like fun at the time. Delahanty, Ruth, Brouthers, Hornsby, Baker and Lajoie collect another season's salary. 1908 Honus Wagner bats 8th. Shoeless Joe pinch hits, along with Clements


Fun will be had by all. Whether it works or not remains to be seen...Good luck to all...
6/11/2021 6:12 PM (edited)
For the many who don’t remember me, I used to spend some time on this site way back when and even have the proud distinction of being one of the original WISC champions. But those were back in the days before Dinelson Lamet. In fact, I don’t think Lamet was even born yet.

Anyways, I’m back and ready to tee off like one of those old guys at the Masters who are tolerated because of some long ago lucky win; allowed to duckhook a drive Thursday morning on camera; and then quickly fade into oblivion as they are passed and destroyed by people who actually know what they’re doing.

I’ll do my best here to recap my strategies, but to be honest, I built and entered these teams so many weeks ago I can’t always remember what I was thinking. So I’ve also added a surprise section for each team of things that had me shaking my head when I went back into set my lineups.

$70M: 2 - 4 - 8 Who Do We Appreciate
Stadium: Briggs Stadium

Despite the name, there’s not much to cheer about here. I can’t really remember too much on how this team came together. I know I called it Ron’s 70M Awful team when I entered it because I hated it so much. It has a mix of a few players with power, a few with OBP, some speed, and lots of crap. I spent a lot of money relatively speaking on Mike Schmidt and Darryl Strawberry in the middle of the lineup and they better produce or I have no chance. It has A+ range in CF and the IF but poor fielding. I went with a two man rotation of Pud Galvin and Ed Morris and a pitching staff overall that doesn’t give up too many walks or home runs. The two starters put in me in the range of OAV that matched up fairly well with the BA of the core of hitters I was targeting, so the complementing pitchers and bench bats were sprinkled in to even things out at .248.

Surprises: There were quite a few surprises with this team when I went back in yesterday to set the lineups.
  1. Briggs stadium? What is that? Where is that? What was I thinking? Don’t think I’ve ever used Briggs before
  2. Rougned Odor – Seriously? - Probably the player I hate most in real life (well other than the obvious ones like Felipe Lopez, John Rocker, etc). I must have been desperate to lower my BA to consider using that guy.
  3. Two pitchers with a salary over $911k?? Are you kidding me? Two freaking million+ pitchers on the whole roster?
  4. 6.8 million on Mike Schmidt in a 70M league?? I spent more on a batter with a sub .250 batting average than I did on my entire bullpen. Let that sink in.
Hitting: 5,472 PA, .248 / .314 / .408, $37.1M
Pitching: 1,348 IP, 1.12 WHIP, .248 OAV, 0.19 HR/9, $32.9M
Prediction:
I’m hoping for 70 wins to match the 70Mcap.

$90M: Bobby Bo’s Crazy 88s
Stadium: Philadelphia Baseball Grounds

This team will likely end up like Johnny Mo’s Crazy 88s – hopelessly defeated, missing quite a few appendages, and bleeding out heavily. In fact, I look at this roster and feel like I took a Hanzo sword to the head myself.

I’ve been completely away from WIS for 11 years but even I figured out quickly that 2020 has some crazy pitching seasons and bargains. So I remember starting there but couldn’t find a roster I was comfortable with in conjunction with 1920. Then I looked at the 02s – I love Bernhard, Delahanty, Hickman, etc. This definitely would be the years I would have used if this was a 100M cap. I just couldn’t get the AughtTwos to work at 90M, however.

So I looked elsewhere and ended up building two complete rosters that fit under 90M – the 1913/2013s and the 1888/1988s. I debated with myself endlessly (not sure I won or lost that particular debate) and ended up entering the 88s. The idea was always to use one 1888 SP with lots of innings with two 1988 starting pitchers as 2a and 2b. I was also sure I’d be using 1888 Ewing at catcher and 1988 Milacki at closer. I started with dreams of Silver King, then switched to Ed Seward, and then Keefe, but, in the end, had to settle for Gus Weyhing. I also ended up using another 1888 pitcher – Gruber (this was before he fell off the Nakatomi plaza evidently) and only one 1988 starter – Koelbasa, I mean, Gubicza. This ultimately meant that Ewing was left off the roster because I needed 1988 Matt Nokes to reach 40M for the modern guys. I kept Milacki though.
Like the team above, it has poor OBP but a mix of power, good range, poor fielding, and lots of speed. This one has a bullpen, however, and even has 7 pitchers with a 7 figure salary. I think it will be competitive but I also know that there will be a 1913/2013 team out there that will absolutely dominate and lead to a lot of mumbling to myself and random screaming outbursts.
Surprises:
  1. Philadelphia Baseball grounds?? What was I thinking about in regards to stadiums back then? I normally pick a stadium that accentuates the positives of the team I built but PBG has zero for everything so what the hell does that say??
  2. My most expensive hitter (Andres Galarraga) has a 6.0M salary – or 800k less than I spent on Schmidt in the 70M league.
  3. I was surprised to see that Jerry Denny, Darryl Strawberry, and Dummy Hoy are all represented on both 70M and 90M rosters. I can’t remember which team I did first to influence the other but I am sure Hoy must have been a subconscious selection in regards to how I feel about myself.
Hitting: 5,675 PA, .275 / .336 / .449, $44.8M
Pitching: 1,395 IP, 1.07 WHIP, 0.24 HR/9, $45.2M
Prediction:
I’m hoping for 90 wins to match the 90 mil cap. (And no, a little foreshadowing here – I won’t be expecting 168 wins in the gambit league to match its cap)

$110M: Friends without Benefits I
Stadium: Polo Grounds

I fiddled with these 110M teams off and on for a few weeks. I knew for sure I’d be using 95 Delahanty & 95 Thompson as those are two favourites of mine. I was also set on using 02 Bernhard but couldn’t decide if I should pair him with Lajoie, Hickman or Bradley. For a long time I used two pairs of 02 Cleveland players and had all four but in the end Hickman and Bradley were replaced.

I decided Bernhard would be part of a four man rotation and that led to him being surrounded by Kevin Brown (Rick Helling as a friend) and Eddie Plank (Dave Davenport). I tried many, many fourth starters but eventually choices for the other team led to filling this rotation with a solid combination of pitchers with less IP instead of a true 4th starter: Howie Pollet (Musial), Toad Ramsey (Kerins) and George Hearn (Spencer). Using Davenport on the other team led to a three man rotation there. Claude Hendrix was a good fit (Art Wilson) and for a long time the third was Joe Wood (Tris Speaker). In the end, I just couldn’t get Speaker to fit without losing Musial or Delahanty so that rotation ended up being filled with 01 Cy Young (Jimmy Williams). I have Lajoie on both teams (the 02 and 03 versions) and some other regulars like Henry Larkin, John Kerins, and Dahlen. Both rosters are filled from there with some more unusual players like Yuniesky Betancourt, Adam Jones, Possum Whitted, and JJ Hardy. Both teams focus the offence on XBH (one skews more to doubles and the other triples) and excellent range on defence. The pitching is solid with both teams.

Surprises: No surprises here as this is the one team that I fiddled with recently. I entered the companion team originally and it sat there for a couple of months. But then just before the deadline I took it out and made a couple changes with scrub players in order to change my stadium selections. At the same time I changed my mind which of the two teams I liked best and switched them. I think this is the better of the two and decided to use it in the first round.

Hitting: 5,810 PA, .308 / .365 / .482, $56.3M
Pitching: 1,346 IP, .95 WHIP, 0.21 HR/9, $53.7M
Prediction:
I like how both of these teams turned out and think they’re both good for 90 wins (On the off chance the second gets an opportunity to play). Of course, high expectations are the kiss of death which means this team will now be lucky to avoid 100 losses.

$120M: Playing with my Triples
Stadium: Enron Field

This one was the easiest to build. I created a standard post 1930 starting pitching staff that focusses on low HR/9 – Blanton, Clemens, K. Brown and Brecheen. Then the offence was created to meet the designated triples ratio but with all the hitters very close to the singles, doubles and home run ratios as well (Stirnweiss, Delahanty, Freeman, Baker, Wagner, Mize, Farrell). I’m hopeful they can compete at every ballpark and hang with the double and homer clubs at their own game. Excellent range was also key to battle the single and high avg teams. Finally, I used the remaining money to fill out the bullpen with some solid low Hr/9 arms.

Surprises: Totally forgot I had Tanner Roark on this team and that the 2013 version looks somewhat useful. As a Jays fan I can only picture him as an overpriced 12th starter useful for batting practice only. In fact, I’m hoping Vladdy uses him for the Home run Derby because it wouldn’t end until they ran out of balls or too many people get hurt in the upper deck.

Hitting: 5,881 PA, .327 / .385 / .528, $63.75M
Pitching: 1,382 IP, 1.00 WHIP, 0.21 HR/9, $56.25M
Prediction:
This is a solid .500 team

$140M: Nineteenth Century and Sixties Boxcutters\
Stadium: Municipal Stadium

My first thought was 1885-1889 for some good hitters and at least one high ip super pitcher. From there I looked at a decade that could provide a couple starters to match with the 1880 deadballer and it wasn’t hard to settle on the 60s with Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax. And, finally, another chance to land Delahanty and Thompson led to going with the 1890s for some more hitters. Who needs fielding gloves anyway? I started with Silver King but had to settle for Tim Keefe. Most of the bullpen and Brooks Robinson (someone has to play defense) comes from the 1960s. Most of the lineup comes from the 1890s (Delahanty, Thompson, Jennings, Milligan, Griffin). The 1880s adds Dan Brouthers and Lou Bierbauer to the offence to go along with Keefe. The defense will have a lot of errors but has crazy range at all positions. Playing in Municipal will help Koufax and some of the relievers with homers and supports the high XBH offence.

Surprises: I noticed I used 1896 Delahanty and can’t remember why. I usually prefer the 1895, 1899 or even 1893 versions so I’m not sure what I was thinking there?

Hitting: 5917 PA, .333 / .393 / .510, $73.1M
Pitching: 1485 IP, .89 WHIP, 0.26 HR/9, $66.9M
Prediction:
I’m not comfortable with higher caps but think this is a decent team with 90 win potential

$168M: .4077th M*A*S*H
Stadium: Yankee III

Who doesn’t like using Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig? Usually their salaries and skill sets don’t match any themes I’m in, but here they’re perfect. I went for a high home run lineup hoping enough teams were seduced enough by the promise of a higher cap to field pitching staffs with high HR/9. Larry Doby, Joe Dimaggio, and Jose Bautista add some punch and high range. I didn’t use Delahanty but was able to borrow Tulowitzki from redcped. Jack Clements and Jocko Milligan are my favourite high slugging catching tandem.
The pitching is all low hr/9 and low whip to keep the opposition bats in check. I used Tanner Roark to his full capability here and along with Chris Young provides 200 mopup innings with 66 homers allowed between the two. The other 1500 innings of pitching allowed 12 homers but overall I end up with a HR/9 of .4077 which is enough for a 168M cap.

Surprises: Surprised to find Snuffy Stirnweiss here. I love his range at second and use him a lot but he sticks out in this line up with the limited home run power,
Hitting: 5,825 PA, .331 / .424 / .612, $88.6M
Pitching: 1721 (1510 non Roark/Young)IP, .97 WHIP, 0.41 HR/9, $79.3M
Prediction:
Depends on the pitching staffs in my division. I was hoping for 85 wins but now seeing that ozomatli went with a similar strategy gives me hope for 90.
6/12/2021 8:36 AM (edited)
70mil happy to see rbow used 1898 Cy and 1920 Babe Adams as well..makes me feel better...ish

My 110M/120M staff are almost identical. With Lamet/Maeda/degrom/Bieber leading the way.

For the “160mil” cap. Taking 2020 John means was my first obvious choice.
6/12/2021 1:07 AM (edited)
I have enjoyed my return to WIS brought on by the pandemic. Still haven't found the time to learn how to handle the lower cap leagues or find enough of the deadball must haves, so my mission for this year's big dance was to have no 90 loss teams and find a way into the top half of the 120. So without further ado, here's a guide to what not to do to be successful in the WISC:

$70m - 2-Four-9 Power Play Unit

Between the lack of working knowledge of how to be successful at this cap and the theme restrictions, this was a real head scratcher. From most of my past experience, most of the time homers don't make for successful teams. However, given the low BA I expected, coupled with pitching staffs that have much higher than normal OAV, I thought cheap homers might actually have a shot at being successful. Found 148 homers out of 17 Bellinger, 19 Schwarber, 17 Bruce, and 60 Colavito. Wish I had considered some high BB guys to get on base for them, but we'll see if just banging the ball out of Great American Ballpark is enough for offense. Decided to match my homers on offense with lower hr/9 pitching. I have no idea if any of these guys will pan out, but 917 IP from a 4 man rotation of Frank Miller, Bill Dineen, Jack Warhop, and Jack Powell has a sub .3 hr/9. Added 06 Ben Sheets and 18 Jack Quinn for some high IP/g relief work.

Offense: .249/.319/.451, 243 HR
Pitching: 1433 IP (1334 usuable), 3.14ERA, 1.15 Whip, .249 OAV

Projection: I'm actually mildly optimistic about this team, which means it probably gas cans in my face...I'm going with 80 wins.

$90m - '19s Reasons for Needing a Miller


Still not really in my comfort zone cap-wise, I knew I'd want one of the more recent years to build pitching. I liked the 18s, but found I couldn't get under the cap with a roster I could live with. Went I went up to 2019/1919, I ended up flipping my thought and using the 2019 hitters and 1919 pitchers...I'm not sure this will work. Again built the offense around relatively inexpensive power hitters, with 19 Acuna & 19 Bellinger being the center pieces, but giving them the 19 Sisler to help come up with key hits and Juan Soto to provide some obp/power.

Pitching side ended up with an all 1919 rotation of Pete Alexander, Frank Miller (again??), Hank Thormahlen, & Ray Miller. Added 1919 Carl Mays for length out of the pen and supplemented with 2019 power arms Tyler Glasnow and Kirby Yates. Some middling 2019 guys will hopefully get enough outs in the 6th and 7th to give us a shot.

Projection: I based the offense around power...that pretty much goes against most all I saw of success in a previous WIS life. If the 70m team doesn't blow up, I'd expect it to happen here. 75 wins. (I hope)

110m: Yu May Need Another Busch


A little more cap friendly, I quickly decided that if I tried to match player for player, I'd never get this team built, let alone the 2nd one. I decided to just build one and throw the second one together later in the team building process, as I don't expect my 2nd team will be needed. With that said, I decided I was going to build with 2020 pitching and put them in a ballpark that isn't too offense friendly. That handed me 2020 Darvish, Bauer, Lamet, and Maeda, along with 2019 Verlander who has been pretty successful for me. One of the things I learned over the past year in my return, is it's easier to survive the early fatigue and manage the bullpen in general by not using all short IP/G arms, so I again looked for so low IP SP to use in the pen...come on down 05 Felix, 16 Rich Hill, 19 Glasnow, and 1907 Nick Maddox. Throw in Koji and a Will Smith, and I think we should pitch pretty well. The offense just kind of became a cobbling together of guys to fit the cap space I had left. I knew I wasn't building another homer dependent lineup, especially with the high hr/9 SP, so guys like Votto, Beaumont, Garr, and Bostock are the main cogs.

The 2nd rd team doesn't pitch as well, but might be more entertaining as I had extra money left for the offense and found that the only way to spend it was on 1B that would have to play corner OF. But an offense led by 20 Freeman, 77 Carew, 40 Mize might have been fun.

Prediction: Pitching will keep us in most every game...offense will probably keep this from being a playoff team. 82 wins.

120m: Triple Your Pleasure, Triple Your Fun


This was the first team I built. I knew I wanted to build a triples team...1 because I thought it would be fun to try and 2, I thought it would be the least used category. Surprised already at the number of write-ups with triples teams. That means my team may not be as good as I hope.

Knowing I was going to be using the triples variable, I knew I would not be getting homers on offense and thus figured this would be another good time to use the 2019/20 SPs and get help for them with the ballpark. Bring on Verlander, Maeda, Lamet, Cole, & 2018 Nola. In keeping with the finding SPs to use in the pen, we grabbed 98 Randy, 19 Glasnow, 10 Hudson, & 14 Fiers. Filled it out with 14 O'Day and 13 Thielbar. A little shorter on IPs, but no mopup innings here. The offense starts with Kiki Cuyler's 28 3Bs and features 184 3Bs in total. Put this team in Pro Player, as it is a +2 3B, but a -1 2B...which is where I figured the most teams would end up.

Prediction: I could see this being anything from a 70 win team that just has the wrong formula, or a 90 win team that plays to its strengths and limits the other strengths. Let's call this 85 wins.

140m: Lefty Love From the 1910s-60s-80s


I had a lot of fun building this one, though for a higher cap it took me a while to settle on something. After having recently playing Schwarze's draft leagues, I decided I was going to build with the 60s and then fill in around that on offense. I really thought I'd be using the 2020 or 1900s for most of my SP, but I just never found a combination I liked to builld from the other boxes with. That led me to the 1910s for SP and the 80s filled out what I had left the best. Offense, as you may guess by the name, is led by lots of lefties...Cobb, Boggs, Gwynn, Yaz, E.Collins, and Gentile. The switch hitting 69 Rose and the lone RH Yount round out the non-C.
For the Pitching staff, Cicotte, Alexander, and Mordecai lead the way..64 Horlen will get some run, as he regularly performs well for me. Ontiveros, Eck, Jarvis, Henry, and Cisco lead the pen.

Prediction: I'm sure the top dogs around here figured out the best box combos, but I feel like we should be competitive here. 83 wins.

Variable: .78% of the Time, It Works Every Time

For this one, I figured the strategy was probably to try to build as much extra cap as possible, without burning up too many roster spots. Went with big arms Ed Walsh and Walter Johnson, but wasn't sure I could get enough cap space to build an offense capable of winning without a SP or 2 that had higher HR/9 numbers, so Verlander and Maeda made it here...though Maeda will likely work in relief. Kershaw will do the heavy lifting from the pen, but will be supported in the late innings by Yates, Jansen, B.Hand, and Nick Anderson.
Offensively, I decided we would try to use the triples again, but without the restrictions on the other categories. The offense will be led by Sisler, Lajoie, and Musial. Pete and Bostock should provide plenty of xbh to help lengthen out the lineup. Playing in Exhibition Stadium should help the xbh add up and hopefully keep the homers to as much of a minimum as possible.

Prediction: Eh, usually I feel best about my high cap team...this year, not so much. 76 wins.
6/12/2021 2:00 AM
$70M: - WT .266- Batters 1968 Pitchers 1930

I think the only interesting strategy I tried was in this league. I summarized all the seasons and compared the difference between OAV and #OAV and the difference between AVG and #AVG. 1968 had the lowest AVG vs. #AVG and 1930 had the highest OAV vs. #OAV. I thought, OK, hitters and pitchers will overperform based on the adjustment to real life.

A better strategy might be to employ this plan at the player level, but who has time for that?

6/12/2021 4:43 AM
No fair, Big Steve entered the same teams twice.
6/12/2021 12:05 PM
He was very consistent in both sets of strategies
6/12/2021 12:22 PM
Posted by rbow923 on 6/12/2021 12:05:00 PM (view original):
No fair, Big Steve entered the same teams twice.
Guess my computer thought I could gain an advantage by making you read the same set of bad ideas twice. Lol.
6/12/2021 12:36 PM

Is it just me, or is Tewksbury some sort of low-cap Bill Bernhard? I can’t see it by looking at the stats, but he seems to outperform “better” pitchers whenever I see him used. I never tried him, but this theme seemed a perfect place to start

Tewksbury is one of the most underrated pitchers imo. I use him in just about every OL I have and he performs as well as guys that cost $1-3m more consistently.
6/12/2021 12:44 PM
I’ll just give the nuggets here and save short attention span folks like me the gory details. If your attention span is really short and you just want to compare your stats to mine, see the tables below. If you think, as you should, that BigScungil is not a threat in this WISC, keep scrolling.

70M - Strang Days Indeed (.274) --- Most peculiar mamma
Griffith Stadium

The basic principle here was to artificially inflate OAV and deflate AVG. This is a tough pill to swallow in the limited salary cap because you can’t afford to waste money like you can in higher caps (i.e., $160M). But as my old literature professor told me after I asked her on a date, “Risks are good!” 2020 provided great resources for pitching inflation. Harvey, Yamamoto and the always faithful Tommy Milone had ridiculously high OAVs (.450, .458 and .449 respectively). It will be torture squeezing those 80 innings into tournament games in which every win counts.

For hitting, I tanked first base and have 8 guys taking up 604 PA. Their combined avg, obp and salary are .173, .355 and 2.09M. Strang, Wilson, Thompson and Deer lead the way.


Table 1. Average normalized batting stats for 2021 WISC teams.
Cap (Mil $) PA AB #AVG #OBP #SLG #OPS
70 5250 4267 .274* .369 .408 .777
90 5664 5044 .312 .381 .437 .818
110 5338 4621 .318 .405 .464 .869
120 5542 4870 .335 .415 .516 .932
140 6163 5404 .349 .418 .525 .943
172 5531 4824 .370 .445 .597 1.052
*AVG not normalized.

Table 1. Average normalized pitching stats for 2021 WISC teams.
Cap (Mil $) IP #ERC #OAV #WHIP #HR/9
70 1356 3.78 .274* 1.22 .83
90 1355 2.53 .221 1.05 .70
110 1383 1.84 .206 .93 .42
120 1396 1.56 .194 .87 .33
140 1458 1.51 .179 .85 .53
172 1591 2.41 .198 1.00 .601**
*OAV not normalized.
** HR/9 not normalized


90 M – Orange Jubilee (20/20) – named for the fortified wines put out by Mogen David.
Petco Park

My gut said to pair pitching from 2016 to 2019 with matching seasons from 1916 to 2019. I was sitting on the 2018 team that had a bunch of platoons (which I hate managing) and decided to have a peek at 2020. I haven’t played much lately so, it was news to me, that 2020 had so much value at pitching. When I draft pitching, I have a target ERC in mind for each cap and I build teams as cheaply as possible to meet the targeted ERC. The 2020 staff was a bit less expensive than the 2018 staff, so I ran with it.

The team is playing in Petco because the outfielders have quite a bit of range and because Petco is all the rage amongst the best WIS players. Petco also helps to save on IP. If there are lengthy stretches of games in hitter’s parks the team can recover at home. I normally do this type of thing in Colt. Petco, Petco, Petco is thenew mantra.

110M – Pancho and Lefty
Petco Park.

“The dust that Pancho bit down south ended up in Lefty’s mouth.” – Townes Van Zandt.

For the most part I paired pitching friends with pitching friends and hitting chums with hitting chums. I went with this method because it took less time to create pairings in my spreadsheets. Also, there are hitting eras and pitching eras and that, to me, makes good dirt farmer logic.

Among the exceptions I made to the dirt farmer pairing logic rule was (were) 1902 Bernhard/Lajoie and 1902 Bernhard/Hickman combos. This is because Bernhard is such good value. I ignored the Walsh/P_somebody combo – well, just because…

Again, lots of 2016-2020 arms here; lots of range in the OF; lots of team speed.

Since only 20% of the teams are going to make rd 2 I put the better team in the first round. I am, at best, a bubble sitter, and this seemed to make sense to me. If I make rd2 it won't make any sense at all.


120M – Triple Threat
AT&T park

Basically, I robbed the pitching staff from Ozomatli. His $120M TOC team kicked my *** in a recent final. So, I stole his pitching. There is probably some copyright infringement fine payable in Amazon gift cards.

I made singles, doubles and triples teams. The singles team had high avg, obp, solid fielding and speed but no power. The doubles team had good power but no speed, a good OF defense and low obp. The triples team had the best combination of hitting, defense, and power. As a bonus the triples team hits a lot of doubles. The doubles team did not hit many triples. --- This is a bit kookie to read, but I hate editing.

Homeruns? Not in this league.



140M – 20:20 Visi00n
Target Field

Essentially 2020 helped me net staring pitching with a normalized ERC of 1.50 for $66.6 million. This left a hefty $73.3 million to spend on hitting. The 1920’s provided the bulk of this hitting. The 2000’s gave me a couple of infielders (Ramirez, C.Jones and slow Joe Mauer) and solid relief pitching.

I thought I had a good $140 million team last year, but we tanked. So, I have no guesses as to how this team will do. I think we will be in every game though.

172M – The Four Mops
Crosley Field

Looks like 2020 will help with the inflationary strategy principle (ISP) once again. This time four, 200K guys from 2020 with a combined HR/9 average of 11.82 will be used to boost HR/9 average to 0.601. The GM netted an extra $11.2M to spend. Not too shabby.

The other 9 pitchers combine for 1400+ IP and have an average HR/9 of 0.173.

I went with a pretty standard WIS lineup of low HR high OPS speedsters. I am playing it a bit cautiously with the homerun bait. I think, even with the mandatory plus 1 homerun parks, the team will score some runs. The question is, can the staff with its 0.17 hr/9 pitching prowess limit the runs from HR hitting teams. ***Adendum - one thing that I am seeing from some of the stronger WIS folks is pairing HR hitters who have a fair amount of doubles in HR parks. This is kind of a best of both worlds idea. This is a strategy that I overlooked and am nervous that it will work.

Trying a platoon at SS and OF by using H. Wagner at both positions. When Wagner is in the OF, Tulowitzki will be at short. When Wagner is in the infield Roy Cullenbine or Joe Jackson or good ole Wilbur Good will be in the OF.

Best of luck to everyone. Thankyou for making this all come together, Ozomatli!
6/13/2021 12:52 PM (edited)
My league so far....
4 - singles
9 - doubles
2 - triples (me)
3 - HR
6 - have not changed.
6/12/2021 1:08 PM
Anyone who quotes Townes Van Zandt is a champion in my book, Scungil.
6/12/2021 1:29 PM
Posted by oldtimer59 on 6/12/2021 1:08:00 PM (view original):
My league so far....
4 - singles
9 - doubles
2 - triples (me)
3 - HR
6 - have not changed.
Ours is currently:

9 - singles
8 - doubles
4 - triples
1 - homer
2 - mysteries
6/12/2021 1:32 PM
Posted by redcped on 6/12/2021 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Anyone who quotes Townes Van Zandt is a champion in my book, Scungil.
Anyone that thinks people who quote Townes Van Zandt are champions, are champions!
6/12/2021 4:03 PM (edited)
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